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RUforJERSEY said:
I don't know about that. A QB could do a whole lot worse than having the skill players the Jets have now accumulated.
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Sadiq is one of those "specimen" players who can actually play and has good hands and hurdles defenders like butter. A LB type with sub 4.4 and 44" vertical and 10" hands and 400+lb bench is nuts. The best teams always have good TEs. I probably would have liked Sadiq with NYGs over #10 OL with past disc issue who is slated for guard (eventually RT).


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6 ft 3+1⁄8 in
(1.91 m)		241 lb
(109 kg)		31+1⁄2 in
(0.80 m)		10 in
(0.25 m)		6 ft 6+1⁄4 in
(1.99 m)		4.39 s1.54 s2.57 s43.5 in
(1.10 m)		11 ft 1 in
(3.38 m)		26 reps


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Really big Athan fan and seems like a real good kid.

BUT his fumble lost that game.
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Unfortunately, when it's towards the end of the contest, the loss gets pinned on those who have a hand in it at the end. What happened the other 59:45? Kinda like the heavyweight wrestler who can seal the victory with a win during the last match of the night. If he loses, the team loss cannot be placed on his/her shoulders, but it is because that's the last person they saw on the mat before they left the gym.
 
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LETSGORU91 said:
Unfortunately, when it's towards the end of the contest, the loss gets pinned on those who have a hand in it at the end. What happened the other 59:45? Kinda like the heavyweight wrestler who can seal the victory with a win during the last match of the night. If he loses, the team loss cannot be placed on his/her shoulders, but it is because that's the last person they saw on the mat before they left the gym.
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Seriously, and good going for a couple of posters to crap up a happy thread for Athan, one of them who constantly tries to prop up the lousy QB who left in 2023.

Maybe if Greggy's lousy defense did not give up 509 total yards to a suspect Penn State offense and the most points Penn State scored against a P4 opponent , Rutgers would have won the game. THAT lost the game.

In the Penn State game, he threw for 72.7%, 338 yards and 3 TDs. He also added a rushing TD.



 
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Ru-baby said:
Really big Athan fan and seems like a real good kid.

BUT his fumble lost that game.

Townsend's drop did not lose the game. It would have helped with a lead. But not a game lsing play. And much more issues also exist in that game including time left.

Anytime I see the Townsend drop mentioned I shake my head as I know urban legend devoid of source facts are coming. Hopefully we'll have a day when that wrong thing ceases to be posted as we've had way wors scenarios.
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Similar to bill Buckner in the World Series
 
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Seriously, and good going for a couple of posters to crap up a happy thread for Athan, one of them who constantly tries to prop up the lousy QB who left in 2023.

Maybe if Greggy's lousy defense did not give up 509 total yards to a suspect Penn State offense and the most points Penn State scored against a P4 opponent , Rutgers would have won the game. THAT lost the game.

In the Penn State game, he threw for 72.7%, 338 yards and 3 TDs. He also added a rushing TD.



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Great points. Now, if someone wanted to blame Nova for the PSU loss when he threw 5 ints.....
 
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Doctor Worm said:
Since no one commented on this, I assume that we have all correctly assumed it is BS.

For those who have not, let me assure you that it is BS.

The truth is that no one offered Pavia a contract. He has accepted a no-promises invite to Ravens mini camp.
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Well, maybe that X poster is more accurate than Grok? ---But this should have given it away in the poster's bio (I did not notice): "Sometimes serious most times satire. Engagement King."

The Diego Pavia story may be a faster and harder crash than Johnny Manziel.

Pavia may have been wise to study Manziel. Stay humble, work hard, and be quiet.
 
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Knight Shift said:
Seriously, and good going for a couple of posters to crap up a happy thread for Athan, one of them who constantly tries to prop up the lousy QB who left in 2023.

Maybe if Greggy's lousy defense did not give up 509 total yards to a suspect Penn State offense and the most points Penn State scored against a P4 opponent , Rutgers would have won the game. THAT lost the game.

In the Penn State game, he threw for 72.7%, 338 yards and 3 TDs. He also added a rushing TD.



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nailed it
it's a team game and no one person loses a game. AK just made a mistake loosening his grip in the up angle to touch the throw. It sucks but he played really well and was the key reason the offense was as good as it was. He didn't lose the game.

I'm glad we had him, will miss him, he was awesome!
 
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AK has the size, skills, and also the character/work ethic/personality/intelligence to potentially thrive in a backup role in the NFL for a number of years. He's all about the team and working hard, without making it about himself. He'll also be ready for any sudden opportunity to play if that happens. AK is certainly better than some career backups that have had to make starts over the years, which both the Giants and Jets have had examples of in recent years. AK also clearly went into this draft process with reasonable expectations and Washington obviously liked what they saw from him and their interactions with him.

Pavia is a bit of an extreme case given all of the personality stuff as well as the height concern, but even if he was taller, a lot of really good starting QBs in college just can't handle that switch to likely becoming a career backup in the NFL, having to quietly fade in the background, doing all they can do to support the starting QB while also being prepared for that chance to play in an instant.
 
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will remind everyone of Brady's draft analysis which is similar to Athans'

Tom Brady’s 2000 pre-draft analysis was largely negative, highlighting a "poor" athletic build, lack of mobility (5.24–5.28s 40-yard dash), and average arm strength. Scouts viewed him as a system-dependent backup with limited upside, resulting in a 5th-round grade before he was drafted 199th overall (6th round)
 
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RUTGERS95 said:
will remind everyone of Brady's draft analysis which is similar to Athans'

Tom Brady’s 2000 pre-draft analysis was largely negative, highlighting a "poor" athletic build, lack of mobility (5.24–5.28s 40-yard dash), and average arm strength. Scouts viewed him as a system-dependent backup with limited upside, resulting in a 5th-round grade before he was drafted 199th overall (6th round)
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He owes it all to Bill Belichick. ;)
Or does Bill owe it all to Tom Brady? :unsure:

If you know, you know.
 
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He's a four year starter and that's rare these days. Parcells wouldn't draft a QB who didn't start for four years. That worked in 70s-80s. AK can toss a burner and he can scoot. Sideline passes got a lot of practice at RU. In right offense I could see him worth a shot
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I found it funny that so many people were circulating that Parcells tidbit on draft weekend.

There are no grounds for portraying Parcells as having any kind of special knowledge of the QB position. The most successful QB he drafted was Drew Bledsoe, and Bledsoe didn’t fit Parcells quoted criteria for success because he wasn’t close to a 2-1 TD/Int ratio at Washington St.
 
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With Pavia…the $300k contract makes no sense.
Teams have about $200k in bonuses to give in total to udfa’s. So, they can’t give him $300k from that. Minimum league salary is around $900k
 
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For AK, would have liked to see him go to a team with an aging QB but a team good enough not to get a top 5 pick next year.
But, in Washington, he could find himself in a good place to be set as a QB3 this year and move up to QB2 after that.
maybe get a couple of starts in due to injuries

If the Jets took him, you already know they are taking one of the top two QB’s next year regardless
 
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Krup062 said:
I found it funny that so many people were circulating that Parcells tidbit on draft weekend.

There are no grounds for portraying Parcells as having any kind of special knowledge of the QB position. The most successful QB he drafted was Drew Bledsoe, and Bledsoe didn’t fit Parcells quoted criteria for success because he wasn’t close to a 2-1 TD/Int ratio at Washington St.
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He got the type of QB he wanted. Parcells was about running and power football - especially on defense (he was a DC). He wanted big guys, strong and a power run game that punished defenses and ate the clock. They had big FBs back then -3 yds and dust cloud . He didn't go for a pass heavy game like the run and shoots, Air Coryell etc .

He actually came up with the "West Coast Offense" name and meant it as a slight - as if all the SanFran, Walsh/Montana passing focus was "sissy football". He wanted a ball control QB with smarts and "strategic passing." That's how he could beat Buffalo Bills juggernaut with a back-up "steady Eddie" QB (Hostetler) and punishing defense.

People often dont realize how terrified opponents were of NYG defense with LT, Carson, Banks, Kinard, Marshall et al. Theismann, Montana, Elway would get wrecked by NYGs (In 1987 Super Bowl Sims was 22/25 and 3 TDs with no INTs vs Elways 22/37 1TD 1INT).

Its true Parcells never had a flashy QB but he didn't one

"If there's one thing I can't stand, it's a quarterback who thinks playing quarterback is just about passing...I don't like celebrity quarterbacks. We don't need those. We need battlefield commanders". BP
 
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He got the type of QB he wanted. Parcells was about running and power football - especially on defense (he was a DC). He wanted big guys, strong and a power run game that punished defenses and ate the clock. They had big FBs back then -3 yds and dust cloud . He didn't go for a pass heavy game like the run and shoots, Air Coryell etc .

He actually came up with the "West Coast Offense" name and meant it as a slight - as if all the SanFran, Walsh/Montana passing focus was "sissy football". He wanted a ball control QB with smarts and "strategic passing." That's how he could beat Buffalo Bills juggernaut with a back-up "steady Eddie" QB (Hostetler) and punishing defense.

People often dont realize how terrified opponents were of NYG defense with LT, Carson, Banks, Kinard, Marshall et al. Theismann, Montana, Elway would get wrecked by NYGs (In 1987 Super Bowl Sims was 22/25 and 3 TDs with no INTs vs Elways 22/37 1TD 1INT).

Its true Parcells never had a flashy QB but he didn't one

"If there's one thing I can't stand, it's a quarterback who thinks playing quarterback is just about passing...I don't like celebrity quarterbacks. We don't need those. We need battlefield commanders". BP
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I think you are giving Parcells credit for guys he used but wasn’t even there when the team drafted them.

The only QBs that played a decent amount of games that were drafted while Parcells was coach or GM there was Bledsoe, Hostetler and Chad Pennington. He was part of Romo getting signed in 2003 as a UDFA but he didn’t even play him for 3 years.

I think my original point is still valid that is ludicrous for people to be quoting Parcells as some kind of expert on what QB a team should be drafting.
 
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I think you are giving Parcells credit for guys he used but wasn’t even there when the team drafted them.

The only QBs that played a decent amount of games that were drafted while Parcells was coach or GM there was Bledsoe, Hostetler and Chad Pennington. He was part of Romo getting signed in 2003 as a UDFA but he didn’t even play him for 3 years.

I think my original point is still valid that is ludicrous for people to be quoting Parcells as some kind of expert on what QB a team should be drafting.
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1985 Chicago Bears won SB with a mediocre QB (Jim McMahon) and so did the Tampa Bucs (Brad Johnson) and Ravens (Trent Dilfer). Of course they were nuclear defenses and didn't really need or want a flashy QB. Parcells was in that bucket. Getting a good QB is about smart QB first of all and then its a matter of system.

Lamar Jackson, Josh Allen , Joe Burrow aren't winning Super Bowls . Teams are built around them and that can be part of the problem. A reason Harbaugh lost job with Ravens is that the owner and others saw that the super star dual, threat wasn't getting then anywhere - like the spread offenses they were great for regular season but in playoffs the good teams know who to target and contain. There's a lot to be said for having a the right system even if it means no celebrity QBs.

An AK asset is that he can play quick and the Commanders staff spoke about AK's hustle. They aren't looking for Mahomes or Brady
 
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1985 Chicago Bears won SB with a mediocre QB (Jim McMahon) and so did the Tampa Bucs (Brad Johnson) and Ravens (Trent Dilfer). Of course they were nuclear defenses and didn't really need or want a flashy QB. Parcells was in that bucket. Getting a good QB is about smart QB first of all and then its a matter of system.

Lamar Jackson, Josh Allen , Joe Burrow aren't winning Super Bowls . Teams are built around them and that can be part of the problem. A reason Harbaugh lost job with Ravens is that the owner and others saw that the super star dual, threat wasn't getting then anywhere - like the spread offenses they were great for regular season but in playoffs the good teams know who to target and contain. There's a lot to be said for having a the right system even if it means no celebrity QBs.

An AK asset is that he can play quick and the Commanders staff spoke about AK's hustle. They aren't looking for Mahomes or Brady
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You are missing the whole point of my comment by arguing Parcells didn’t need the best QB to win.

My point was that fans, of all sorts of teams, are quoting Parcells list of college minimums for a QB as if they are a prerequisite for any QB to be successful and as if QB play was something Parcells was known for (which wasn’t the case).
 
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You are missing the whole point of my comment by arguing Parcells didn’t need the best QB to win.

My point was that fans, of all sorts of teams, are quoting Parcells list of college minimums for a QB as if they are a prerequisite for any QB to be successful and as if QB play was something Parcells was known for (which wasn’t the case).
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A lot of teams are paying a lot and losing other players to pay QBs many millions for mediocre results. Having minimums mean you don't take people just to take them. Parcells was never stuck with the high priced, long serving, overrated QB that kills a lot of teams. Parcells DIDN"T WANT TO BE KNOWN for QB play and his criteria kept him from reaching - which is an aspect of success.

He was like the guy didn't want to marry models and actresses and wanted a solid mate. Parcells won 2 SBs with NYG's (and many say he would have had a third but for the strike). He could well have had a fourth with Jets if Vinny T didn't go down early. If Parcells never had success his criteria might look different but he did and his coaching tree is among the best


Here is a list of QBs who met Parcells criteria

Quarterbacks who hit all four pieces of criteria (7/14)​

Peyton Manning
Drew Brees
Tony Romo
Russell Wilson
Philip Rivers
Eli Manning
Carson Palmer

Quarterbacks who hit three of the four pieces of criteria (2/14)​

Andrew Luck
Matt Ryan

Quarterbacks who hit two of the four pieces of criteria (4/14)​

Tom Brady
Joe Flacco
Aaron Rodgers
Ben Roethlisberger

Quarterback who hit one of the four pieces of criteria (1/4)​

Cam Newton

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Krup062 said:
I found it funny that so many people were circulating that Parcells tidbit on draft weekend.

There are no grounds for portraying Parcells as having any kind of special knowledge of the QB position. The most successful QB he drafted was Drew Bledsoe, and Bledsoe didn’t fit Parcells quoted criteria for success because he wasn’t close to a 2-1 TD/Int ratio at Washington St.
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Parcells is an overrated football mind. He was a good coach but he's no incredible evaluator of talent.
 
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RUGuitarMan1 said:
I would’ve liked the Jets to draft AK in the 7th rather than them giving up 2 4th rd picks to move up to draft Cade Klubnik in the 4 th rd. Never have been impressed with Klubnik over the last 3-4 years. Played on a talented team and I don’t think he played that well overall. Backup QB in the NFL.
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Do you want him to fail?
 
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scarletpumpernickl said:
Just rewatched Athan's pick on ESPN's coverage. Reece Davis correctly mentioned that he started his career at Minnesota and finished at Rutgers. One of the analysts - may have been Louis Riddick but I'm not sure, responds with "that's right, just one season there in New Jersey after 4 years at Minnesota"
Was clearly reading the misinformation he was given. Another sign of how far off the national college football scene RU is.
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Or how unprepared ESPN's gasbag commentators are
 
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Nice thread on AK's greatest football non playing day of his life.
And pathetic RU fans gotta go opposite of congrats...
 
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Rutgers Chris said:
Guaranteed money is zero. They can move on at any time. Wouldn’t bet against it either
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I believe you, but just in case others doubt that FACT:


Ravens insider, Jeff Zrebiec of The Athletic, reported that Thompson’s arrival doesn’t necessarily signal the Ravens are ready to move on from Pavia, but it does complicate his chances of making the 53-man roster.

The former Vanderbilt quarterback signed with the Baltimore Ravens as an undrafted free agent on a three-year deal with no guaranteed money. He joined a crowded room behind two-time MVP Lamar Jackson and veteran backup Tyler Huntley.

 
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