This is such a good, calm take from Bill. He’s 100% right. The left has gone insane. Watch the clip, it’s short.
Comedian thinks an 8-9 year old should trans, gets wrecked
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Another lefty with mental illness. Nothing out of the ordinary to see here. Move along.
How wild was it when he says his kids 8 year old friend knows he/she is trans. He just blows right by that like it’s just accepted normal facts. Then he also knows a 3 year old going from girl to boy? Fuckinnng 3 years old. Then he justifies it by saying it’s ok because the parents are just “agreeing” with the 8 year old that’s he’s a she? Wtf is this? 8 year olds call the shots now? These people are beyond demented and sick. This is demonic. I’ll never vote D on this issue alone.
Can’t remember if I mentioned this before. My parents have been vacationing at the beach with a family since I was a kid. Their daughter now has a 5 year old son who has played with my just-turned 6 year old for several years when they come down from NY. He’s now identifying as a girl and the mom is totally playing into it. A 5 year old.
My wife and I are trying to figure out what to do. I don’t want to deprive my parents of hanging out with my kids at their beach vacation, but I also don’t want to expose my 6 year old to this insanity.
My wife and I are trying to figure out what to do. I don’t want to deprive my parents of hanging out with my kids at their beach vacation, but I also don’t want to expose my 6 year old to this insanity.
Be a father. Do not put your child or family in that position. There’s no need. The risk far outweighs the reward here. At best you just affirm that children have wild imaginations, at worst you expose them to this weird ideology that will confuse them. I personally would move on, politely of course, no need to be rude, but remove that from your personal life. That’s radical, no one will fault you for moving on. Jmo.
I don't see the outrage about this? To our knowledge, the kids aren't getting any hormone blockers or any actual surgeries - the girl is just wearing boys clothes. Maher said it himself - it's like a tomboy when he/we all were growing up. As an aside, how many of the tomboys that you remember from growing up ended up being lesbians? I still keep in touch with 2 good girlfriends who we called tomboys growing up that are lesbian, so I find that pretty funny.
This trans panic stuff is wild to me. Either the kids will grow out of it, or it's who they actually are - who are any of you to try and tell people how they should feel? Reminds me of all the closeted gay guys stuck in marriages with women because they're too ashamed to be who they really are due to familial/societal/professional pressure.
This trans panic stuff is wild to me. Either the kids will grow out of it, or it's who they actually are - who are any of you to try and tell people how they should feel? Reminds me of all the closeted gay guys stuck in marriages with women because they're too ashamed to be who they really are due to familial/societal/professional pressure.
For people who truly believe its fully a mental health issue in all circumstances, I can see where you may not want your kids around it or something. But being a single issue voter for something that affects my life as little as this (and where a lot of the hub bub has been what some on the left are doing, not the laws certain dems are campaigning for), doesn't make sense to me. When I hear anything on trans at all, 9/10 times it is from someone on the right trying to make people angry, not people on the left trying to change laws for any special circumstances, etc. I can understand if someone in your district is running on a law to arrest parents who resist gender ideology in their home or something. That would affect your family, etc. But there are so many more things that a President and administration affects that seem to me to matter so much more. Anyway, back to the regularly scheduled trans fear.
I'd advise you actually be a parent and not run and hide from society.
I've raised my kids well enough that exposure to thoughts and ideas that are different from my preferred ones don't scare me to the point where I try to shield them from the world, and turn those differing thoughts and ideas into horrible monsters (mountains from mole hills).
The same psychos who are freaking out about alleged inappropriate sexual materials being in libraries are the same ones raising kids who are skipping school to smoke, vandalize and bang Betty Sue under the bleachers as an early teen, without protection.
So it's not just paranoia (though it IS definitely paranoia) ... it's that they also focus on the wrong things, or have major shortcomings elsewhere.
It's why the Catholic school girls, with the strictest parents, were always the freakiest deviants.
It’s lying to children. That’s what it is at its core. Not only lying but encouraging behavior that we know is detrimental. And the whole it doesn’t affect me thing is played out. Yall lose your minds over illegals being detained and deported. How does that impact your life? Trumps a pedophile and rapist, really? That gets your attention but not destroying innocent children. I’m not afraid of them. I’m afraid of what the ideology is doing to children. You absolute know for a fact that these trans kids have been over represented in violence recently. That should be setting off alarm bells, not causing you to double down.
You guys always want proof, here it is. Puberty blockers are awful for kids. Period.
The overall pattern from European data (UK Cass, Finnish registries, Swedish/Dutch reevaluations) supports treating gender dysphoria in minors primarily with comprehensive mental health care rather than routine hormonal interventions, as the latter lack robust proof of net benefit and carry known/unknown risks.
Two things:
1. Lying to children isn't bad. We do it all the time. If letting them dress like boys/girls, or calling themselves different names makes them happy, what's the issue? They'll either grow out of it, or if that's what what end up deciding to do for the rest of their days so be it.
2. Is it their confusion about their gender causing them to commit murders, or is it the overwhelming hatred they read every day online from complete strangers, and people in authority, calling them horrible things that causes them to eventually snap and commit violence? When you have elected officials going in front of the nation essentially encouraging the demonization of these confused kids, it's not a surprise when they start getting bullied by other kids and eventually snap.
I don't have any, but it's an immaterial question. I understand parents wanting their children to be, what they consider to be, "normal." I'd rather have a child be HAPPY and act like who they actually are then "normal" and feel like they're living a lie.
Lying is ok lol. Until you have children you have no idea what you’d do. It’s ridiculous listening to cat dads tell everyone how to raise their children. Could you provide the quote of demonization from the government please? All I recall is your boy declaring Easter as national trans awareness day. I’m sure that was just coincidental right, not trying to insult Christians.
Did you tell your children that Santa/Easter bunny/Tooth fairy are real? Lying is okay sometimes, clearly.
Re the bolded: it's funny how you seem to have an inability to have a discussion with posters without immediately launching into attacks. I don't care how you raise your children, I just know gay kids who grew up in repressed households struggled as children. I imagine it's a very similar situation to those in the non-binary/trans community. It's called empathy, and your boy Jesus was a major proponent of it.
Re the demonization. You can also look to his entire 2024 platform which focused heavily on attacking the trans/non-binary community.
Trump vows to remove 'transgender insanity' and critical race theory from US schools
His pledge came during a Turning Point USA event in Arizona on Sunday.
idahonews.com
Defending Women From Gender Ideology Extremism And Restoring Biological Truth To The Federal Government
By the authority vested in me as President by the Constitution and the laws of the United States of America, including section 7301 of title 5, United
www.whitehouse.gov
Erased From the Trump Administration’s Draft of a Key Foreign Aid Policy: Any Mention of LGBT People
USAID’s gender policy guides its priorities worldwide. A new version of that policy put forward by the Trump administration omits any mention of transgender people, and adopts a conservative framing of human rights.
www.propublica.org
Why should I as a father, listen to father advice from someone that’s not a father? You clearly don’t understand the role of a parent in a child’s life. Nor should you as you don’t have children. This is what 3 billion radicals believe. Parents jobs aren’t to make them “happy” as you say, it’s to prepare them for the world. How that’s not obvious is beyond me.Did you tell your children that Santa/Easter bunny/Tooth fairy are real? Lying is okay sometimes, clearly.
Re the bolded: it's funny how you seem to have an inability to have a discussion with posters without immediately launching into attacks. I don't care how you raise your children, I just know gay kids who grew up in repressed households struggled as children. I imagine it's a very similar situation to those in the non-binary/trans community. It's called empathy, and your boy Jesus was a major proponent of it.
Re the demonization. You can also look to his entire 2024 platform which focused heavily on attacking the trans/non-binary community.
Trump vows to remove 'transgender insanity' and critical race theory from US schools
His pledge came during a Turning Point USA event in Arizona on Sunday.Defending Women From Gender Ideology Extremism And Restoring Biological Truth To The Federal Government
By the authority vested in me as President by the Constitution and the laws of the United States of America, including section 7301 of title 5, UnitedErased From the Trump Administration’s Draft of a Key Foreign Aid Policy: Any Mention of LGBT People
USAID’s gender policy guides its priorities worldwide. A new version of that policy put forward by the Trump administration omits any mention of transgender people, and adopts a conservative framing of human rights.
Ephesians 6:4 (ESV): “Fathers, do not provoke your children to anger, but bring them up in the discipline and instruction of the Lord.”
Proverbs 22:6 (ESV): “Train up a child in the way he should go; even when he is old he will not depart from it.”
Proverbs 13:24: “Whoever spares the rod hates his son, but he who loves him is diligent to discipline him.”
Idc what they do in their homes, just keep it there. It’s private. Is your argument that it’s harmless or that gender is fluid? It’s hard to tell.
Child mutilation should make you angry.
No one ever complained about tomboys. We all knew them growing up just as we all have seen transvestites before. No one ever had a problem with it.
The problem has always been when they try to indoctrinate the children. An 8 year old still believes in Santa Claus, yet they can determine their gender? LOL, NO! Teaching gender ideology to children? It's absurd and ridiculous on it's face and it denies all science.
We don't tell anorexic people they look great. We don't tell drug addicts they are doing well. We shouldn't confirm an 8 year olds imagination. It's imagination, not reality. Science says you will never change your gender no matter how hard you try. psychiatric counseling.
Adults and the medical society should be ashamed of themselves.
Hold up. So because 95% of parents tell their kids Santa is real that equates to lying to kids is ok Carte Blanche? Interesting take.Did you tell your children that Santa/Easter bunny/Tooth fairy are real? Lying is okay sometimes, clearly.
Re the bolded: it's funny how you seem to have an inability to have a discussion with posters without immediately launching into attacks. I don't care how you raise your children, I just know gay kids who grew up in repressed households struggled as children. I imagine it's a very similar situation to those in the non-binary/trans community. It's called empathy, and your boy Jesus was a major proponent of it.
Re the demonization. You can also look to his entire 2024 platform which focused heavily on attacking the trans/non-binary community.
Trump vows to remove 'transgender insanity' and critical race theory from US schools
His pledge came during a Turning Point USA event in Arizona on Sunday.Defending Women From Gender Ideology Extremism And Restoring Biological Truth To The Federal Government
By the authority vested in me as President by the Constitution and the laws of the United States of America, including section 7301 of title 5, UnitedErased From the Trump Administration’s Draft of a Key Foreign Aid Policy: Any Mention of LGBT People
USAID’s gender policy guides its priorities worldwide. A new version of that policy put forward by the Trump administration omits any mention of transgender people, and adopts a conservative framing of human rights.
I don't care if you listen to my advice. I was merely pointing out that lying is okay sometimes, and that I BELIEVE it's no big deal to be understanding of confused kids. That doesn't mean I want kids having surgeries or being forced into anything against their will. Some kids will grow out of it, and some kids this is WHO they are.
My argument is it's harmless, but I understand more traditional families being scared by stuff like this. This all just is very reminiscent of the conversion camp fad from a while ago that gay/lesbian kids went through. I also don't disagree with your comment that it's a parent's job to prepare them for the world. However, I do believe that you can do that while still being understanding and empathetic of their struggles. Talk with any gay person who grew up in a traditional/religious household and you can hear first hand some of the mental struggles they dealt with as kids.
I guess you ignored the next sentence that says "lying is okay SOMETIMES"? I think this is one of those situations.
Guys, if your kids start smoking meth and they tell you it makes them happy. Make sure to encourage it and buy them more meth.
What's the problem? They're adults and if they want to take a class about that who cares? Harvard is a private school, they can teach whatever they want.
It’s not harmless. They just concluded a huge study in Europe. The results are clear. It’s a mental illness. No hormone therapy or pube blocker helped, in fact it caused much more harm. Seems crystal clear.
The overall pattern from European data (UK Cass, Finnish registries, Swedish/Dutch reevaluations) supports treating gender dysphoria in minors primarily with comprehensive mental health care rather than routine hormonal interventions, as the latter lack robust proof of net benefit and carry known/unknown risks.
No disrespect, but i discount the opinion of people who have not had children. When you hold your baby seconds after they take their first breath, your worldview changes. When you raise them, you realize how vulnerable they are.
Harvard gets tons of taxpayer money. You didn’t know that?
You should read the peer review comments below on that study. It tells a different story, but it sounds like your mind is already made up.
Cass Review does not guide care for trans young people - PMC
pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov
There is a whole thread on it. It's called "Gay is Gone" - He can search it up
Can people change their race?You should read the peer review comments below on that study. It tells a different story, but it sounds like your mind is already made up.
Cass Review does not guide care for trans young people - PMC
That's called an appeal to emotion fallacy. I empathize with you guys' point of view, I just hold a differing opinion.
Yeah, they get funding for grants, studies, and research. What's that have to do with anything? Plenty of private businesses and colleges get public money - should the government have final say over everything they do?
No one needs a study to know that man can never become a woman and vice versa.You should read the peer review comments below on that study. It tells a different story, but it sounds like your mind is already made up.
Cass Review does not guide care for trans young people - PMC
No one needs a study to know it's a big lie.
No one needs a study to know it's harmful.
No one needs a study to ridicule the people that allow that ideology.
It's child abuse.
Can a person change their race or is this strictly reserved for gender? Why? If my kid comes home from school and says he likes the new Drake album and he wants to be black. That ok? We can just be whatever right?
Yeah. It's my opinion you lack the perspective to have a well informed opinion on this subject.
One day if you have kids, maybe you will know what I am talking about. I highly suggest having kids, it's great.
I'm not sure I have lost my mind over some of that some you listed, but I also do think humans should be treated humanely. Not just americans but humans. So I think supporting human rights isn't something that affects my life, agree, but I am also not making it a single issue vote for myself. I also think it is possible to both think that Trump is an absolute trash human being (which may or may not include rape and pedophilia), AND that children shouldn't have life changing surgery flippantly. I don't think it is as prevalent as the right makes it out to be, and also don't think that it is as "easy" to get as it is made out to be. But anyway, there are medical studies on puberty blockers, and the consequences for kids with gender dysphoria that don't take them, and if there were laws based on what science says about both so be it. As long as it is science based, I would understand. But most things can be cherry picked (disclaimer that this statement is nonpartisan, both sides do it). For example, chemo can be absolute hell for cancer patients, and if you only looked at the results from the chemo (lost weight, horribly sick, how many don't actually make it through, etc etc etc), as opposed to what the cancer can do on its own, that is sort of an incomplete study. So no doubt that puberty blockers are likely not at all the right call for some kids. But feels like often, withholding who you feel you are can also be damaging.
As to being over represented in violence, I actually agree they have been. But we likely disagree on the reason.
As to "you guys always want proof", which your tone came off there as an insult, I am glad you think that.
For the data in Europe, are there people on the right talking about additional mental health benefits being covered, or is it just calling them mental ill and being uncomfortable. I start to get real frustrated when there is an issue, and the GOP states X isn't need, its a Y issue! But then are not willing to even try to devote more money towards Y. If the people I see talking about trans issues on the right had a compassionate disposition, and truly thought what is being done to them is horrible, and wanted to find a way to help them, while I may still disagree, I would have a lot more respect for it. But otherwise, it just seems people don't understand it, or are made uncomfortable by the idea of it, so they push back against it being in society. People use to be similarly uncomfortable about a number of other issues, and tried to law up, but it was just new and uncomfortable for them. Think trans issues touches on more medical type things, so isn't the same as the issues in my head, but think there is a similar piece involved.
They shouldn't have final say on what they do, but they should have final say on where the money goes, and they do. See the Gay is Gone thread.
Come on dude. Of course people can change their race. Have you never met Sammy Sosa? Michael Jackson? Those people are everywhere! And it's totally normal!
/sarcasm
Did you at all look in to the day coinciding with Easter that year? To see if there was an explanation other than insulting Christians?
No, your race cannot change.
Gender and sexuality are two different things. You guys seem to constantly conflate the two, so it's not a surprise there's a bit of a disconnect here.