On the budget/cutting sports at MSU

dog99walker

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For you baseball haters, the University is not spending money on baseball and regretting the loss. Baseball puts the University in the national picture in a very positive light. That value is a bit costly, but they consider it money well spent or they wouldn’t do it. I do get tired of hearing ‘this topic’ from a small number of small minded fans.
 
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Anon201138

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This number seems questionable. Dudy Noble has ~4500 chairbacks in the grandstand. The cheapest cost of those 4500 seats is $495 with obviously the club levels costing more. But regardless, 495x4500 is over over $2.2 million. Your telling me that sales of all club levels, skyboxes, outfield rigs, Lofts, GA tickets & concessions is ONLY $1.2 million??? Frankly I don’t think that’s remotely accurate.
It’s a public university. Don’t take my word for it. Multiple newspapers have looked filed FOIA, looked at the numbers provided by the school, and reported it. It would be against the law for a public university to report inaccurate numbers, and if anything they’d have incentive to fudge them up, now down.
 

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It’s a public university. Don’t take my word for it. Multiple newspapers have looked filed FOIA, looked at the numbers provided by the school, and reported it. It would be against the law for a public university to report inaccurate numbers, and if anything they’d have incentive to fudge them up, now down.
Accounting practices can be strange. Maybe all those premium area sales are not attributed to baseball? I don’t honestly don’t know, but the sales of the sky boxes and lofts alone should be over $1.2 million. (I think the lofts are $60k+ per year x 12). That revenue number simply doesn’t hold up to the math of known prices and seating quantities.
 

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Personally, with this pay-to-play, NIL, huge TV, corporatized era I think that eventually what is going to happen is that football and possibly men’s basketball break away, have a collectively bargaining agreement, with all profits going to just that FB/BB program’s players/coaches/families just like any other pro team. I think money-losing sports in the next 10-20 years are essentially going to be club sports. Meaning if you can’t pay for yourself you’re no longer a varsity sport at this university.

College football and basketball are basically TV-money-driven professional sports just like any other pro league now. There’s only one major money losing (and only women’s) pro sports league in America, the WNBA, and the only reason it still exists is for political correctness reasons it is subsidized by the NBA.

Any other professional sports league, if it is not commercially viable and does not make a profit, it folds.

Basically for decades basketball and football money has subsidized the 12+ other sports at every university, similar to the NBA/WNBA.

So unfortunately, I think in 20 years, college baseball as a varsity sport is finished. Which sucks because we have the most rabid fan base in America. But even if we could somehow turn a profit on baseball, without having to use football TV money to pay for the Dude/coaching salaries (which I believe we could). The problem is what maybe 10-15 universities across the country have big enough support to make their baseball program financially viable on its own? Who would we play? Have a national championship of 15 schools?

The biggest money by far is in TV. Very few people in the entire country outside of alumni are tuning into Georgia-Ole Miss or MSU-LSU today. Millions and millions, from all over the country will tune into LSU-Ole Miss or Bama-Georgia in the fall. If football and basketball break away, and the coaches and players decide you know what we don’t want to share our profits to subsidize 12 other money losing sports at this school, college baseball is finished.

My god, you really like to type.
 
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TheDawg-Pound

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I tend to agree with you but we have to be realistic with our market, and truth is we have a cheap fanbase. Arkansas and UM have a market that allows them to charge more because their fanbase is different (NWA population and corporate community; Oxford just the price to “be seen”).

the most underpriced real estate is the Left Field Lounge. And many of the old guard are already pissed that prices have gone up from the $250 or $500 they were paying when they hauled cotton trailers in there during old stadium days. On the other hand, we raise prices and they get sucked up by companies and out of town fans, you run the risk of losing people in them every game who are cooking, etc.

I think we need to charge more but we have a fanbase that doesn’t want to pay
I get this is the talking point but I would happily pay more than what they pay to get seats.
 

Anon201138

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Imagine if we'd have waited with the interest rates today. That said I have no clue what rate we got
The rate is actually very, very good. Much better than you would think. Because unlike let’s say someone building a home based off their personal income, this was backed by a big institution with a passionate fanbase and pretty much guaranteed people in seats for years. It was way less risky than if we tried to get financing for let’s say, expanding or refurbishing Davis Wade. Still expensive though.
 

Anon201138

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I get this is the talking point but I would happily pay more than what they pay to get seats.
It’s not an elitist point of view to say we need to increase ticket prices. It’s just simple math. We have a cathedral of a stadium, probably the best in the country. But also one of the most expensive.

If we’re constantly selling out and smashing attendance records with people even having trouble getting tickets, we need to raise prices. I know people hate to hear that. But it’s the truth
 

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It’s not an elitist point of view to say we need to increase ticket prices. It’s just simple math. We have a cathedral of a stadium, probably the best in the country. But also one of the most expensive.

If we’re constantly selling out and smashing attendance records with people even having trouble getting tickets, we need to raise prices. I know people hate to hear that. But it’s the truth
Agree. And we’re not talking about a 10% increase. With this stadium size & demand we probably need to double ticket prices.
 
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TheDawg-Pound

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Or even add bleachers for sec season. Cheap and it would sell out. Lsu outfield is bleachers and guess what, people still say it's one of the best venues in the country. That's a lot of extra money to offset some cost and if we continue to fill them, make something permanent later like the long term plans had in mind.
 

Anon201138

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Agree. And we’re not talking about a 10% increase. With this stadium size & demand we probably need to double ticket prices.
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This is the student pass for 2025-2026. $250 for all baseball, football, and basketball. For reference Alabama does not even include football in their student package, they are purchased separately through a lottery, and the “all other sports” package is $550.

The students, while not necessarily the majority, are the biggest group of fans we can count on to show up. Thousands of them show up. My nephew is a sophomore. He goes to dang near every weekend game and some midweek games.

We could raise the pricing on the student passes to triple this, $750, and still sell them out. $750 for 7 home football games, 20 home basketball games, and 25+ home baseball games is a bargain. People might b*tch, yes, but they’d still sell out.
 
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This is the student pass for 2025-2026. $250 for all baseball, football, and basketball. For reference Alabama does not even include football in their student package, they are purchased separately through a lottery, and the “all other sports” package is $550.

The students, while necessarily the majority, are the biggest group of fans we can count on to show up. Thousands of them show up. My nephew is a sophomore. He goes to dang near every weekend game and some midweek games.

We could raise the pricing on the student passes to triple this, $750, and still sell them out. $750 for 7 home football games, 20 home basketball games, and 25+ home baseball games is a bargain. People might b*tch, yes, but they’d still sell out.
I agree. But dang, I remember when I paid something like $21 for 7 football tickets (4 in Starkville & 3 in Jackson) & everything else was free. But that was a very different world.