NIL claims a victim at Arkansas
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The current combined budget allocation for the men’s and women’s tennis programs at Arkansas is approximately $2.5 million annually.
Arkansas was debated a few months ago, on a thread, some think its a future superpower given all the companies and NIL money it could be getting, and has access to and there are some very impressive companies, but the counter point was some of those sources like the Waltons supported academics more then athletics, in the past, and that may not change, at least we now know Arkansas still has some of the same problems other schools have and know the Waltons dont play or watch college tennis either. LOL
Arkansas was debated a few months ago, on a thread, some think its a future superpower given all the companies and NIL money it could be getting, and has access to and there are some very impressive companies, but the counter point was some of those sources like the Waltons supported academics more then athletics, in the past, and that may not change, at least we now know Arkansas still has some of the same problems other schools have and know the Waltons dont play or watch college tennis either. LOL
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What sports would get cut here if the University didn’t subsidize the athletic department tens of millions dollars per year?
Clemson trustees order plan for cuts as university expenses continue to rise
With a $2 billion spending plan due by June, Clemson University trustees have ordered cuts to turn around an “unsustainable” trend of rising costs and slower revenue growth.
If this situation hits us, and it certainly will, then would we be able to sink $40-something million, or even $20 million, into athletics year in and year out? I had already predicted that sports would wind up being cut. I consider that imminent now.
Clemson trustees order plan for cuts as university expenses continue to rise
With a $2 billion spending plan due by June, Clemson University trustees have ordered cuts to turn around an “unsustainable” trend of rising costs and slower revenue growth.www.postandcourier.com
If this situation hits us, and it certainly will, then would we be able to sink $40-something million, or even $20 million, into athletics year in and year out? I had already predicted that sports would wind up being cut. I consider that imminent now.
Im left just wondering which ones.
This is the initial phase,cutting a few sports.It’s a prelude to schools making the decision that the current model is unsustainable and the decision to de-emphasize college sports and move to a Pioneer League model similar to the way things were 20 years ago.College trustees are not going to sit by and watch athletic programs lose millions every year.It’s folly.
It’s unfortunate it’s comes to this, but I hope everything collapses like a house of cards. At this point, I don’t see any way of ever going back to any semblance of normalcy aside from a cataclysmic implosion waking people up.Clemson trustees order plan for cuts as university expenses continue to rise
With a $2 billion spending plan due by June, Clemson University trustees have ordered cuts to turn around an “unsustainable” trend of rising costs and slower revenue growth.
If this situation hits us, and it certainly will, then would we be able to sink $40-something million, or even $20 million, into athletics year in and year out? I had already predicted that sports would wind up being cut. I consider that imminent now.
The very clear message to athletes in sports like tennis will be “your sport doesn’t matter.”
Nor should they, if they are doing their jobs halfway reasonably. It is completely bonkers to me that the university subsidized the athletic department $42 million last year. $42 million! What do you think could’ve been done academically with that amount of money? On the other hand, what did we get in return for it from the athletics department? Horrible basketball season a horrible football season a horrible baseball season.
Shouldn't athletics be funding academics?
In a way it does as applications to southern football schools from northern students is at an all time high.But no school is going to continue moving vast amounts of money (42 mil) from the academic side to the athletic side.It’s unsustainable.
Thing that gets me about this is nobody at all seeing this as a one-off situation. Rather it's being seen by everyone as the tip of the iceberg.
No, but at least be self-sustaining while contributing to the school on occasion.
At most big time sports schools part of tuition is a sports fee.I don’t know for certain if that 42 mil takes that into account or not.If it doesn’t that’s really even more of a deficit.That would 42 mil plus the student fees.Not 100% sure if Carolina has those.I know Cotadel C of C , and Clemson charge student athletic fees.
players percentage of pay should come directly from the gate at the end of the year. If you suck and no one shows up, oh well.
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I believe that the sports fee is primarily to cover student tickets. Everyone gets charged, but not all students can obtain tickets when there are fewer tickets than students who want them, as wit big football games.
And I must say I've enjoyed your commercials!
Also, good thinking to use a different photo on this forum so you wouldn't be recognized - stalkers and groupies can be a scary bunch.
I recall it being a "student activities fee" and I assume some of that went to the athletics department.
South Carolina students pay $300 a year in "athletics auxiliary fees", $150 per semester. They also pay $172 a year for student tickets.
None of the money goes to coaches salaries or NIL. With about 50,000 undergrads, that means the school collects around $20 million a year in fees. Students who care nothing at all about sports are having to borrow money in student loans to pay for something they don't want.
The problem is not the NIL per se. The problem is involving the schools in it at all. That could be regulated, leaving the matter between players and business entities that want to engage them.
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I hope we see more and more of this. It's a copycat world, and no program wants to lose the edge to get ahead. If Arkansas cutting tennis is viewed by other programs as giving Arkansas some kind of financial edge, I imagine others will follow suit.
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How many seconds did it take after NIL went into effect that it became pay-for-play? Seemed it was more or less instantaneous.
The problem is there is no way to control it. No matter what system you put in place to take schools out of it, there will be people figuring out ways to work the back channels.
But now Pandora's Box has been opened. Players have gotten a taste of 6 and 7-figure NIL deals. There's no way to go back. The only thing that could do it is having entire athletic departments start to crash.
I think the problem is the collectives. Businesses should have to make individual NIL deals with players. Also, players should have to be on a team before a business can make an NIL deal with them.
That's been my point all the time. Even Deion Sanders agrees with that.
Is the B1G and ACC in trouble too? They both sponsor more men's and women's sports like lacrosse than the SEC.
I think any non-revenue sport should be nervous when a single football player can command $3 million+.
Time will tell if Arkansas is just out in front of the trend.
Revenue sharing and direct payments are already here. Even the pros don't get endorsement and appearance deals that are arranged by their teams. If the pro model is going to be the standard, it should include the limitations as well as the benefits.
Yep. It all has to burn down at this point and it probably is. Guess we can all pick an NAIA or D3 school to root for if we still to have an interest in college sports.
Some version of the Patriot League for Football and basketball might be a possibility.
two tiers -The Schools that want to go the route we’re seeing now…Texas Ohio St. etc
A second level offering scholarships only.Basically back to the old way.
I can see schools attempting the first way and crying uncle and dropping down.
The only alternative is having some type of salary cap and I’m not exactly sure how you would get there with the courts ok ing it.
two tiers -The Schools that want to go the route we’re seeing now…Texas Ohio St. etc
A second level offering scholarships only.Basically back to the old way.
I can see schools attempting the first way and crying uncle and dropping down.
The only alternative is having some type of salary cap and I’m not exactly sure how you would get there with the courts ok ing it.
The major leagues own their farm teams. NFL gets theirs absolutely free. Nice deal.