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I wish we could have a discussion about race in this country - but we can't. I have enjoyed these discussions with friends who are black when there isn't much emotion involved. So many white people have shut down and won't talk about it publicly because they will be crucified with one wrong statement. One non-PC statement and you are labeled a racist, can lose your job, and these days even worse. There is now so much emotion involved on both sides that it seems fruitless.

I'm someone who does the best a white guy can do to understand what blacks go through in life. I can never fully get it, but I know it's different for blacks many times, and I get there is a history of mistreatment. This has nothing to do with white privilege or whatever the punchline is today. I appreciate hearing the stories of black friends who've been through some stuff. They're not on TV complaining about it, they're not trying to get a bill passed or trying to get reparations. Just a couple dudes talking about being black in the U.S. and being white here. We aren't trying to fix all the problems - but dang, we can make some progress and it feels good on a very small level.


The worst part is the race hustlers win when the two sides hate each other. There are powerful people who WANT dissension. If someone doesn't believe or understand this, they live in a box. These powerful people love seeing black vs. whit, they need it in fact. And unfortunately one party weaponizes race to an extreme. There is power and money at stake.

Black violence - it's a topic I like to chat with people when they have good intentions. I have black friends making well over 100k a year, educated, raising families - and we have chatted about this. I love their perspective. They don't yell and scream and bark at me about "white cop racism" and I don't throw all the nasty stats at them about black crime. I like to dig in and go deeper.... Usually we get to the break-up of the black family, dad's role, and several things (yes bad cops can be discussed without emotion). Then I turn on the news and someone tries to bring up the lack of dads in these young black mens lives and the shouting match begins "Oh, don't you go there - don't you EVEN go there!!"

It's a mess. I think we are way beyond a chance of reconciliation. So I just try and live my life and really enjoy peace with quite a few people of different races at a local level. They don't wake up pissed off and I don't wake up wanting to white privilege my way over them. It's sad that narrative is shoved down our throats.

Anyway.... surprised if anyone is still reading this - lol. Just heart-breaking to see people dead and we can't have a civil discussion about it. Too much money and power and emotion involved.
This is a fantastic perspective and post
 

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Then I turn on the news and someone tries to bring up the lack of dads in these young black mens lives and the shouting match begins "Oh, don't you go there - don't you EVEN go there!!"
This is really giving them too muchcredit and excuses. Even back in the mid 1900s when fathers were much more in the home, they had horrendous crime rates. It goes back to the lynching days.

I think the white peoples' biggest weakness is perpetual apologizing and giving people too many chances.
 

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This is really giving them too muchcredit and excuses. Even back in the mid 1900s when fathers were much more in the home, they had horrendous crime rates. It goes back to the lynching days.

I think the white peoples' biggest weakness is perpetual apologizing and giving people too many chances.
Do you think there's something fundamentally different about black people compared to other races?

You'd have to in order to ignore the more logical explanations for black "culture" being what it is.
 

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Do you think there's something fundamentally different about black people compared to other races?

You'd have to in order to ignore the more logical explanations for black "culture" being what it is.
yes. all people are not equal for all environments.
They are optimized for off roading, not modern western society.
trying to make them fit in is just bad for everyone.
 
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Do you think there's something fundamentally different about black people compared to other races?

I have seen countless blacks both in the U.S. and overseas who don't have the same culture that we see (these blacks hate rap music, don't support calling women b*tches and ho's, they want to be a good dad, follow the law, etc).

So... if 30 people were born on a deserted island and there was a mix of races - would the blacks be more violent and less prone to follow the law than other races? A lot of people would say yes. (they are then called racist for thinking this and the discussion stops). I'm not one of them - I don't believe they have a gene that makes them more violent. Is there a predisposition of blacks to likely be more violent than other races?

Someone once asked on a board to name a predominantly black country with black leaders that has peace and prosperity. It gets me wondering these questions. And I am very open to different ideas because it's not just one or two things IMO.
 

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yes. all people are not equal for all environments.
They are optimized for off roading, not modern western society.
trying to make them fit in is just bad for everyone.

This piqued my interest. Seemed to make sense.

But I just searched and it says black crime in predominantly black countries is actually higher than in Western nations.
 

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This piqued my interest. Seemed to make sense.

But I just searched and it says black crime in predominantly black countries is actually higher than in Western nations.
yes, they are. The west has some restraints but it isn't working enough.

This idea that we can hot swap people from all around the world and introduce multiple cultures is diabolical.
Not sure what the end game is but I think they need orcs to run the machines that can be easily be controlled, vs critical thinking ones they are trying to replace. The problem is, I don't think these people can be controlled as easily as they seem. That's the problem when your society is brain dead.
 
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yes, they are. The west has some restraints but it isn't working enough.

This idea that we can hot swap people from all around the world and introduce multiple cultures is diabolical.
Not sure what the end game is but I think they need orcs to run the machines that can be easily be controlled, vs critical thinking ones they are trying to replace. The problem is, I don't think these people can be controlled as easily as they seem. That's the problem when your society is brain dead.
I agree multiculturalism is terrible at its core and has failed miserably. I don't understand the rest of your post.
 
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Another good question. Jamaica and Haiti as well. We can't blame the U.S. and slavery in these situations. I don't say this to be mean - I honestly would appreciate hearing someone's theory that goes beyond "racism" as to the answer to this.
Haiti is a gawd damn nightmare. When we were in Dominican Republic they hated any and all Haitians. Didn't want any of them in their country. Can't blame them.
 

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Another good question. Jamaica and Haiti as well. We can't blame the U.S. and slavery in these situations. I don't say this to be mean - I honestly would appreciate hearing someone's theory that goes beyond "racism" as to the answer to this.
there is no exemplary black country. They are all better under colonialism.
We have pumped trillions into Africa and all we have gotten is more Africans. The experiment failed. Cut off the aid. Let nature return.
 

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Why are we breeding more invaders?
 

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why do you think that they are intentionally ruining countries in the west?

Seems obvious - many hate America and realize they won't instill their way of life through military means (i.e, invasion), so instead this is the route for many very powerful globalists.
 

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Seems obvious - many hate America and realize they won't instill their way of life through military means (i.e, invasion), so instead this is the route for many very powerful globalists.
and what happened to all the imported parasites once that happens? Sterilization?
 

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Well alrighty then.

I am still at a loss. If you guys harbor such resentment towards black individuals, you have picked the weirdest hobby to follow...
We tried. We really did. I grew up in the 90s when all the white guilt was picking up. We were trained to feel for the "oppressed". Sorry, it was all propaganda. Minorities were wolves in sheep clothing

I suppose a small amount of different ethnicities would be ideal but this need tight control.
 

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We tried. We really did. I grew up in the 90s when all the white guilt was picking up. We were trained to feel for the "oppressed". Sorry, it was all propaganda. Minorities were wolves in sheep clothing

I suppose a small amount of different ethnicities would be ideal but this need tight control.
You tried...what?