What argument are you trying to make for Jasper? If it’s anything other than — dude was overrated AF, I’m not buying it.Why are we all sad? We have our Furman guy. The one that this board says is a 'fact' will go to the NBA. Just moves on the court in a way that you know he is great. Just needs to put on a few pounds and he'll be John Wall.
Except when I and a few others make that argument for Jasper, that argument doesn't work for him. Only for the Furman guy.
Maybe some of them wore orange before and liked it.Shame on Pope for not recruiting this kid. We need a shooting guard besides Wilkins. Why do all of these guys want to go to Tenn? Money speaks loudly but it’s Tenn for crying out loud.
The Furman guy had a great campaign as a freshman and looked great even against the runner-ups. JJ has no BBIQ or is simply very selfishWhy are we all sad? We have our Furman guy. The one that this board says is a 'fact' will go to the NBA. Just moves on the court in a way that you know he is great. Just needs to put on a few pounds and he'll be John Wall.
Except when I and a few others make that argument for Jasper, that argument doesn't work for him. Only for the Furman guy.
I agree. Even if we get who we think we might, that roster has holes and will be missing pieces. It's not a top roster. More akin to last year results imo.It’s safe to say. If UK even wants to finish top 4 in the conference, Pope has a TON of work to do. I’m not so sure our roster will be good enough even if he lands all the guys left that he is targeting.
The Furman guy had a great campaign as a freshman and looked great even against the runner-ups. JJ has no BBIQ or is simply very selfish
I totally agree. And this is my biggest concern -- I can totally see another R32/ S16, mid-SEC type finish, and the narrative would be how Pope is succeeding and has earned another year.I agree. Even if we get who we think we might, that roster has holes and will be missing pieces. It's not a top roster. More akin to last year results imo.
Oh my goodness, man. You know you’re one of my favorite posters on here. You hate Pope but man you have have a great sense of humor. But damn, I can’t even tell if you’re joking or if you hate Pope so bad you believe what you just typed.Thought question -- what does Wilkins look like as a freshman thrust into the SEC with Pope as coach?
My guess is probably not too different from Jasper.
Nobody knows -- it's a big jump from 15 seed level to the SEC. It's day in and day out in the SEC, not just show up for 2 games against big opponents.
Maybe he is as great as some of you are saying -- overwhelming odds are he isn't.
ITVI, for some reason I can't quote your post in this message but this is my train of thought.
I don’t care where he finishes just as long as injuries can’t be an excuse. That’s all I’ve heard, but it’s fact that even without injuries, we weren’t winning the SEC or going to the final four with either of his past two teams. We weren’t beating Florida or Alabama either year, and Auburn was gonna cook us last year either way. Pope just simply isn’t putting together good enough teams.I totally agree. And this is my biggest concern -- I can totally see another R32/ S16, mid-SEC type finish, and the narrative would be how Pope is succeeding and has earned another year.
Sad reality and still, delusional fools who somehow thing everything is fineIt’s safe to say. If UK even wants to finish top 4 in the conference, Pope has a TON of work to do. I’m not so sure our roster will be good enough even if he lands all the guys left that he is targeting.
Then why the #41 portal ranking? Surely a guy as such you described would be higher ranked than Shelstad, Hill, Lewis? Mingo's brother? Some guy named Chance Westry?Oh my goodness, man. You know you’re one of my favorite posters on here. You hate Pope but man you have have a great sense of humor. But damn, I can’t even tell if you’re joking or if you hate Pope so bad you believe what you just typed.
Wilkins >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Jasper. Don’t care who the coach is. Please go watch some of those highlights of Wilkins. Don’t get it twisted, he is EXTREMELY talented, far more natural talent than Jasper. You’re letting high school rankings blur you here.
It's a big deal because we hate Tennessee.Means they aren’t getting Juke and not sure why anyone is sad, he wasn’t even a target of ours. We went after others Hill Jr was never coming here nor did we try to get him. Not sure what the big deal is, but let’s just keep complaining to complain.
Transfer portal rankings are terrible, man.Then why the #41 portal ranking? Surely a guy as such you described would be higher ranked than Shelstad, Hill, Lewis? Mingo's brother? Some guy named Chance Westry?
Are all those guys NBA prospects too, or are the scouts missing something>
That’s why it isn’t a big deal, it was Hill or Juke. Tennessee got the worst of the two by far, it’s a win for us. They’ve been the favorite for Juke for a few days and now they have Hill that tells me Jukes going elsewhere.It's a big deal because we hate Tennessee.
Definitely Losded. Of all the things that the orange lovers are it's Losded. I've been screaming that for freaking years nobody would listen. I think we're cousinsThey will be top in country if ament returns
Harrelson super stud
Juke harris bout to be a vol
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If he can’t finish in the top 4 after 3 years, I can’t imagine boosters or even the new AD will want CMP to be coach anymore barring a deep run in the tournament.It’s safe to say. If UK even wants to finish top 4 in the conference, Pope has a TON of work to do. I’m not so sure our roster will be good enough even if he lands all the guys left that he is targeting.
I wouldn't necessarily disagree with that. But you've also used these same terrible rankings to justify Pope being a 'B+' recruiter.Transfer portal rankings are terrible, man.
Watch him yourself and make up your own mind. He is scary talented. He has some rawness but the potential is unreal.
But would boosters accept that narrative? They probably think they’ve been patient enough after three years.I totally agree. And this is my biggest concern -- I can totally see another R32/ S16, mid-SEC type finish, and the narrative would be how Pope is succeeding and has earned another year.
The Furman guy averaged 18 for a freshmen, um where did the two starting guards for last years florida team come from? Jasper johnson is physically weak, if he wasn't he wouldn't turn the ball over everytime he came in a game. Zoom has a well rounded game with assists and rebounding. We are going to add more Probably 4 to 5 more players at least.Why are we all sad? We have our Furman guy. The one that this board says is a 'fact' will go to the NBA. Just moves on the court in a way that you know he is great. Just needs to put on a few pounds and he'll be John Wall.
Except when I and a few others make that argument for Jasper, that argument doesn't work for him. Only for the Furman guy.
Don’t wait 7 months. Watch Wilkins vs Bama, UConn and High Point today. You will be impressed. He’s got good size but explosive, has a quick release jumper, has extremely deep range, makes snappy decisions with the ball, can put defenders on a string, ultra confident player, silky smooth midrange. I expect he will be our go-to scorer next year.I wouldn't necessarily disagree with that. But you've also used these same terrible rankings to justify Pope being a 'B+' recruiter.
I'll add that for Freeman, if we get him, I would consider that a big recruiting win. Just hope his injuries don't flare up (LOL).
We'll see if you and the board are right on Wilkins. Only like 7 more months to go!
did you even watch Jasper play? skinny was only part of the problem. Lack of defense, worse guard I’ve ever seen at handling the ball and the can’t go 30 seconds without jacking a shot were what you would have seen.Why are we all sad? We have our Furman guy. The one that this board says is a 'fact' will go to the NBA. Just moves on the court in a way that you know he is great. Just needs to put on a few pounds and he'll be John Wall.
Except when I and a few others make that argument for Jasper, that argument doesn't work for him. Only for the Furman guy.
If he goes to the sweet 16 he will deserve more years. Nobody fires a coach going to the sweet 16I totally agree. And this is my biggest concern -- I can totally see another R32/ S16, mid-SEC type finish, and the narrative would be how Pope is succeeding and has earned another year.
Everybody keeps saying "How will he do in the SEC" but the SEC has tons of mid-major players now. Many of the top guys in the portal are from smaller schools, and the bigger schools are all going after them. It doesn't logically make sense to keep saying "How will he do in the SEC." This thread is literally about Tennessee landing a guy from VCU...Thought question -- what does Wilkins look like as a freshman thrust into the SEC with Pope as coach?
My guess is probably not too different from Jasper.
Nobody knows -- it's a big jump from 15 seed level to the SEC. It's day in and day out in the SEC, not just show up for 2 games against big opponents.
Maybe he is as great as some of you are saying -- overwhelming odds are he isn't.
ITVI, for some reason I can't quote your post in this message but this is my train of thought.
Jasper sucks nuts… That Furman guy makes Jasper look petty. Zero comparison with Wilkins/Jasper are to never exist, PERIOD….Why are we all sad? We have our Furman guy. The one that this board says is a 'fact' will go to the NBA. Just moves on the court in a way that you know he is great. Just needs to put on a few pounds and he'll be John Wall.
Except when I and a few others make that argument for Jasper, that argument doesn't work for him. Only for the Furman guy.
I’m sorry, but you’ve gotta be the ignorant person on this board… And that says a lot lol.. just stop , please…Thought question -- what does Wilkins look like as a freshman thrust into the SEC with Pope as coach?
My guess is probably not too different from Jasper.
Nobody knows -- it's a big jump from 15 seed level to the SEC. It's day in and day out in the SEC, not just show up for 2 games against big opponents.
Maybe he is as great as some of you are saying -- overwhelming odds are he isn't.
ITVI, for some reason I can't quote your post in this message but this is my train of thought.
Why would Ament returnThey will be top in country if ament returns
Harrelson super stud
Juke harris bout to be a vol
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If Juke returns to college, which is looking very likely. He’s gonna play at Tennessee.Means they aren’t getting Juke and not sure why anyone is sad, he wasn’t even a target of ours. We went after others Hill Jr was never coming here nor did we try to get him. Not sure what the big deal is, but let’s just keep complaining to complain.
Honestly kinda shocked Kansas is having this hard of a time in the portal (speaking only from an outsiders perspective)