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Hi y'all. I'm hoping some fellow Bulldog on here can offer some assistance or insight into the likely cost and time involved in building said small-home or cottage on an acre of land in Gulfport.

It would be for my 98 year-old mother and 75-year old handicapped sister who has lived with her all her life. Here's the situation:

My stepdad passed away recently, leaving only about $4,000, catching everybody by surprise. My mom wants to stay on their land (presently a little over 2 acres), but with so little SS income and the $4k that was left it seems financially nearly impossible, even though the home is paid for.

So, I've been thinking it might make sense to subdivide the property into two approx 1 acre parcels, build a cottage on the 2nd parcel to move my mom & sister into it, then sell the original home. I'd like to build this and tell my mom and sister they can live there at no cost, and if my younger sister wants, allow her to live there as long as she wants, with the property/home, on the 2nd plot only, put in my name to inherit or just own from the beginning. The original plot would remain in her name.

Can anybody tell me what I'm likely looking at in $ to get the survey, plans, permits, etc. and have someone build it, linking up electricity, sewer & water? FWIW, there is a storage building on the property that would be on their acre with electricity, but no water or sewage.

So, can anybody here help? Please keep in mind my mom is 98, so this would have to be as fast as possible, so if pre-fab helps with that, I'd like to know, along with any other time to completion.
 
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Fritz!

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Is it inside city limits and is there municipal sewer available? If not, one acre lots may hinder the ability to make it affordable.
 
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Is it inside city limits and is there municipal sewer available? If not, one acre lots may hinder the ability to make it affordable.
Thanks for responding. The City of Gulfport has said we can subdivide and build, pending the survey and assuming all permits, etc. But I don't know about the municipal sewer. I'll see if I can find out.
 

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Thanks for responding. The City of Gulfport has said we can subdivide and build, pending the survey and assuming all permits, etc. But I don't know about the municipal sewer. I'll see if I can find out.
If you are dealing with city inspectors, the price per sqft is gonna be hirer than what it actually should cost.

If you are building yourself? Probably $120 to $130 a sqft. More if you sub a lot out. Maybe less if you can do it all.

best thing to do is get a set of plans drawn up by an architect.

take those to a builders supply company and get them to quote materials.
 
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If you are dealing with city inspectors, the price per sqft is gonna be hirer than what it actually should cost.

If you are building yourself? Probably $120 to $130 a sqft. More if you sub a lot out. Maybe less if you can do it all.

best thing to do is get a set of plans drawn up by an architect.

take those to a builders supply company and get them to quote materials.
Thank you.
 
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Shmuley

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Save yourself a ton of wasted time, effort and possibly money by FIRST going to the City of Gulfport’s Urban Planning Department. Get an audience with the leadership of that department and tell them, specifically, what you are wanting to attempt. It is best that you find out immediately whether the city will allow what you propose before you spend time, energy and money.
 

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Save yourself a ton of wasted time, effort and possibly money by FIRST going to the City of Gulfport’s Urban Planning Department. Get an audience with the leadership of that department and tell them, specifically, what you are wanting to attempt. It is best that you find out immediately whether the city will allow what you propose before you spend time, energy and money.
Good advice.

ETA: take some pics from the internet. Bring multiple examples.
 

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Building small is more expensive per square foot than building larger up to a point. Building in a hurricane prone area that has building codes for hurricane construction is expensive. I have some experience with the construction of small coach houses in an RV community in coastal Al. 500 sq ft range, one bedroom, bath , den and kitchen area. The cheapest that I’ve seen one built is around $275 per Sq ft by someone acting as their own general contractor and doing a good bit of work themselves. Lock and key is over $400 per sq ft.
 

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As someone who deals with people who want to build "tiny homes" and get rich, I can tell you there are several hurdles.

Is the property unrestricted?

If so, you won't have much of a push back from City Hall. The only issue will be paying for it (cash on hand). You'll likely need to get a loan from a mobile home lender. Expect suboptimal rates because of the risk. Typically, Fannie/Freddie don't like lending on anything that doesn't have a foundation or is modular.

If the property is restricted (like inside an HOA or development), fugitaboutit. I guarantee you there are multiple lines about not being able to subdivide and no "semi-permanent structures" (aka, don't turn our community into a trailer park). Tiny homes communities are just trailer parks with higher HOA fees. And since the vast majority of tiny homes are not built on a real foundation, they are considered "semi-permanent".

Lastly, getting all the utilities in place is more costly than you think. Dropping a septic may be your best bet (if allowed). It takes more cash on hand to get a functional tiny home up and running than people think.
 

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On a side note check ss.gov
Your mom may be able to have her monthly payment raised based on what your step dad received
 
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If you google “small cottage house plans” or “small house plans” or “2 bedroom 2 bath small house plans” etc. you can actually find good sets of plans for really cheap that are completely ready for quoting and building.

Fiver is a good resource too. www.fiverr.com

if you go that route, message me and I can walk you through it.
Thank you, again. Sadly, I think it's not going to be an option anymore. My 98 year-old mother has now torn our family apart. I don't think she's unfit, rather she has put her trust in some bad people who are manipulating her badly and have turned her against her own children.

They feed her lie-after-lie, red flags all over the place, but our mother has chosen to side with them.

I was going to surprise her by getting it all set up and even financing the entire thing so she could stay there, then I got a text from her early this morning saying "some people" have told her my younger sister and I are trying to get her declared unfit...the same lie they've been telling her for over a year! Yet somehow it never occurs to my mom that if that were true, why has noone come by to interview her or even make a phone call?

Straw that broke the camel's back. If I knew she really was unfit, I wouldn't feel bad and would never hold it against her, because she just couldn't help it. But she's being her true self and pushing away the only family she has left in favor of these evil, manipulative pieces of ****!

She has no clue how much work I've already put into this and what I was prepared to do just because she's my mom and I love her. And now she'll never know, I'm done. I'm tired of trying to protect someone who has decided to trust savory characters over her own son.
 
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Save yourself a ton of wasted time, effort and possibly money by FIRST going to the City of Gulfport’s Urban Planning Department. Get an audience with the leadership of that department and tell them, specifically, what you are wanting to attempt. It is best that you find out immediately whether the city will allow what you propose before you spend time, energy and money.
Already did that before I posted here. They have pre-approved the subdivision I proposed and told me what I need to do next.
 
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On a side note check ss.gov
Your mom may be able to have her monthly payment raised based on what your step dad received
Yeah, already done, but it's still not much when he left so little on their bank account when he passed. I guess he just never figured they'd live as long as they did.
 

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These guys EVENTUALLY get it right.

hide three pigs GIF
 

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Thank you, again. Sadly, I think it's not going to be an option anymore. My 98 year-old mother has now torn our family apart. I don't think she's unfit, rather she has put her trust in some bad people who are manipulating her badly and have turned her against her own children.

They feed her lie-after-lie, red flags all over the place, but our mother has chosen to side with them.

I was going to surprise her by getting it all set up and even financing the entire thing so she could stay there, then I got a text from her early this morning saying "some people" have told her my younger sister and I are trying to get her declared unfit...the same lie they've been telling her for over a year! Yet somehow it never occurs to my mom that if that were true, why has noone come by to interview her or even make a phone call?

Straw that broke the camel's back. If I knew she really was unfit, I wouldn't feel bad and would never hold it against her, because she just couldn't help it. But she's being her true self and pushing away the only family she has left in favor of these evil, manipulative pieces of ****!

She has no clue how much work I've already put into this and what I was prepared to do just because she's my mom and I love her. And now she'll never know, I'm done. I'm tired of trying to protect someone who has decided to trust savory characters over her own son.
Man that sucks. Sorry you are dealing with it.
 

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Thank you, again. Sadly, I think it's not going to be an option anymore. My 98 year-old mother has now torn our family apart. I don't think she's unfit, rather she has put her trust in some bad people who are manipulating her badly and have turned her against her own children.

They feed her lie-after-lie, red flags all over the place, but our mother has chosen to side with them.

I was going to surprise her by getting it all set up and even financing the entire thing so she could stay there, then I got a text from her early this morning saying "some people" have told her my younger sister and I are trying to get her declared unfit...the same lie they've been telling her for over a year! Yet somehow it never occurs to my mom that if that were true, why has noone come by to interview her or even make a phone call?

Straw that broke the camel's back. If I knew she really was unfit, I wouldn't feel bad and would never hold it against her, because she just couldn't help it. But she's being her true self and pushing away the only family she has left in favor of these evil, manipulative pieces of ****!

She has no clue how much work I've already put into this and what I was prepared to do just because she's my mom and I love her. And now she'll never know, I'm done. I'm tired of trying to protect someone who has decided to trust savory characters over her own son.
You tried. Sounds like you did everything a loving responsible son could do but sometimes those we love won’t let us help them.
 
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Yeah, already done, but it's still not much when he left so little on their bank account when he passed. I guess he just never figured they'd live as long as they did.
So the "declaring unfit" happens a lot more frequently than you may think. If your mom knew that you were doing some things but didn't know what she may have spoken to her friends and they may have warned of that. It's best to be honest and explain to your mom that you had only her best intentions and if you really thought she was unfit then you wouldn't be trying to find a way for her to stay there and build her a home. Seems that she doesn't have a lot of time left and the stress isn't adding more days. You don't want this on your chest for the rest of your life.
 

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If you're looking for speed and reasonable cost, a modular or manufactured home would be where I'd look. There's a new home called a "cross-mod" that sits on a permanent foundation, sheetrock inside, shingle roof, and is HUD compliant. I know Clayton makes them, I know a younger couple that did exactly what you're wanting to do when their retired mom became a widow, and it seems to have worked out well.
 
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Thank you, again. Sadly, I think it's not going to be an option anymore. My 98 year-old mother has now torn our family apart. I don't think she's unfit, rather she has put her trust in some bad people who are manipulating her badly and have turned her against her own children.

They feed her lie-after-lie, red flags all over the place, but our mother has chosen to side with them.

I was going to surprise her by getting it all set up and even financing the entire thing so she could stay there, then I got a text from her early this morning saying "some people" have told her my younger sister and I are trying to get her declared unfit...the same lie they've been telling her for over a year! Yet somehow it never occurs to my mom that if that were true, why has noone come by to interview her or even make a phone call?

Straw that broke the camel's back. If I knew she really was unfit, I wouldn't feel bad and would never hold it against her, because she just couldn't help it. But she's being her true self and pushing away the only family she has left in favor of these evil, manipulative pieces of ****!

She has no clue how much work I've already put into this and what I was prepared to do just because she's my mom and I love her. And now she'll never know, I'm done. I'm tired of trying to protect someone who has decided to trust savory characters over her own son.
Man. That’s really sad. And way too common. Unfortunately, you’ve done all you can do.
 

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The only way I could possibly see that working is with the modular home idea above. As previously stated, too much red tape and hoops to jump through to do that. You would be better off building it bigger for future selling price per sq ft.

My father in law priced doing something similar. He is a retired home builder. He still has contacts and could still do a fair amount of the work. He wanted smaller, more efficient, less maintenance. He couldn’t make it pencil out to be worth the headache. He wasn’t going to have much left over from selling his old house by the time he built the new.

I personally think that you would be better off subdividing the lot and just selling the vacant land.
 

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Hi y'all. I'm hoping some fellow Bulldog on here can offer some assistance or insight into the likely cost and time involved in building said small-home or cottage on an acre of land in Gulfport.

It would be for my 98 year-old mother and 75-year old handicapped sister who has lived with her all her life. Here's the situation:

My stepdad passed away recently, leaving only about $4,000, catching everybody by surprise. My mom wants to stay on their land (presently a little over 2 acres), but with so little SS income and the $4k that was left it seems financially nearly impossible, even though the home is paid for.

So, I've been thinking it might make sense to subdivide the property into two approx 1 acre parcels, build a cottage on the 2nd parcel to move my mom & sister into it, then sell the original home. I'd like to build this and tell my mom and sister they can live there at no cost, and if my younger sister wants, allow her to live there as long as she wants, with the property/home, on the 2nd plot only, put in my name to inherit or just own from the beginning. The original plot would remain in her name.

Can anybody tell me what I'm likely looking at in $ to get the survey, plans, permits, etc. and have someone build it, linking up electricity, sewer & water? FWIW, there is a storage building on the property that would be on their acre with electricity, but no water or sewage.

So, can anybody here help? Please keep in mind my mom is 98, so this would have to be as fast as possible, so if pre-fab helps with that, I'd like to know, along with any other time to completion.
I’m sure yall have covered this but hate not ask- is the “so little SS income” inclusive of the surviving spouse benefit (his SS) or is she ineligible for that?
 

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I’m sure yall have covered this but hate not ask- is the “so little SS income” inclusive of the surviving spouse benefit (his SS) or is she ineligible for that?
Surviving spouse benefit is 1/2 of the spouses benefit. You get the greater of that or your regular benefit. But not both. When your spouse dies you will get less money.
 
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Surviving spouse benefit is 1/2 of the spouses benefit. You get the greater of that or your regular benefit. But not both. When your spouse dies you will get less money.
I think you can get 100%. But you are correct you can only get 1