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I strongly disagree. Aside from like 89-92, our rosters were loaded with highly ranked guys throughout the 80s & 90s. I’ve been watching since 78 & we’ve always had elite rosters with the exception of a few years in the Tubby era, but, that’s only bc he despised AAU & didn’t want to recruit. If he had put in the work there never would’ve been lineups featuring Bobby Perry, Sheray Thomas & the like. And, BG’s two years were pretty rough. But, outside of a handful of seasons we’ve been stacked with elite talent throughout the 48 years I’ve been a fan.
The Pitino years were stacked with talent. The 96 team was probably the most talented team in UK history.
 

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The Pitino years were stacked with talent. The 96 team was probably the most talented team in UK history.
Well first hurley championship UConn team, and Floridas last championship team wasn't stacked with talent. You have to get right players and enough players who don't get injured. It comes down to a science. The top 10 portal players some of them I'm not impressed with. I'm no recruiting analyst but I don't see any yaxel in there. The dude from Wisconsin is good as well but he's a guard. Plenty of good guards. Stokes will be good because he's 6'8 and handles balls good and is athletic.
 

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2005-2009 wasn't that long ago. We saw it back then. Markinyo Williams, Sheray Thomas. Conner Tucker, Vinnie Zollo. This isn't unprecedented.
Rancik is way better than those guys, and is a legitimate power conference rotation piece, possibly even a serviceable starter if he develops a bit more. It’s fair to point out that we need more star power and that there doesn’t appear to be much of it on the horizon unless Stokes surprises us, but that doesn’t necessarily mean that anyone we can sign short of that level is a bottom of the barrel scrub.
 

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I strongly disagree. Aside from like 89-92, our rosters were loaded with highly ranked guys throughout the 80s & 90s. I’ve been watching since 78 & we’ve always had elite rosters with the exception of a few years in the Tubby era, but, that’s only bc he despised AAU & didn’t want to recruit. If he had put in the work there never would’ve been lineups featuring Bobby Perry, Sheray Thomas & the like. And, BG’s two years were pretty rough. But, outside of a handful of seasons we’ve been stacked with elite talent throughout the 48 years I’ve been a fan.
I have been watching that same amount of time, and just don't see it that way. We got good kids but we didn't yank in multiple top 10 recruits every year
 

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I strongly disagree. Aside from like 89-92, our rosters were loaded with highly ranked guys throughout the 80s & 90s. I’ve been watching since 78 & we’ve always had elite rosters with the exception of a few years in the Tubby era, but, that’s only bc he despised AAU & didn’t want to recruit. If he had put in the work there never would’ve been lineups featuring Bobby Perry, Sheray Thomas & the like. And, BG’s two years were pretty rough. But, outside of a handful of seasons we’ve been stacked with elite talent throughout the 48 years I’ve been a fan.
Coach Cal brought in twice as many top 10 recruits as all the other Kentucky Basketball coaches COMBINED. Look it up
 
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Coach Cal brought in twice as many top 10 recruits as all the other Kentucky Basketball coaches COMBINED. Look it up
I’m not limiting it to top 10. That’s silly. You said only Cal could get who he wanted & that’s not true. Joe B’s entire run was loaded with McD’s AAs & Mr Basketballs. From 93 on, Pitino’s rosters were elite.

The main reason Cal landed so many more is bc his rosters were turnstiles & he had to replace 80% of the team every year. And, for his first 8-10 years here, he was the only coach offering starring roles to multiple FR every year. Every other coach throughout our history retained most of their players & didn’t have 7-10 open spots every year. It’s apples & oranges. Bottom line is we’ve been as talented as anyone in the country for 90% of the time I’ve been watching.
 

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I’m not limiting it to top 10. That’s silly. You said only Cal could get who he wanted & that’s not true. Joe B’s entire run was loaded with McD’s AAs & Mr Basketballs. From 93 on, Pitino’s rosters were elite.

The main reason Cal landed so many more is bc his rosters were turnstiles & he had to replace 80% of the team every year. And, for his first 8-10 years here, he was the only coach offering starring roles to multiple FR every year. Every other coach throughout our history retained most of their players & didn’t have 7-10 open spots every year. It’s apples & oranges. Bottom line is we’ve been as talented as anyone in the country for 90% of the time I’ve been watching.
No. Most of those teams had one MM and a lot of 4 stars and a few 3 stars. Don't take my word for it, look it up
 

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Coach Cal brought in twice as many top 10 recruits as all the other Kentucky Basketball coaches COMBINED. Look it

Coach Cal brought in twice as many top 10 recruits as all the other Kentucky Basketball coaches COMBINED. Look it up
And did next to nothing with those recruits. It was criminal the talent he brought to Lexington and then only won 1 NCAA Championship. I don't care if the Cats ever have another NBA player on their roster as long as they win. Cal should have went on a Nick Saban kind of run but did not because all he cared about was the NBA draft.
 

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I strongly disagree. Aside from like 89-92, our rosters were loaded with highly ranked guys throughout the 80s & 90s. I’ve been watching since 78 & we’ve always had elite rosters with the exception of a few years in the Tubby era, but, that’s only bc he despised AAU & didn’t want to recruit. If he had put in the work there never would’ve been lineups featuring Bobby Perry, Sheray Thomas & the like. And, BG’s two years were pretty rough. But, outside of a handful of seasons we’ve been stacked with elite talent throughout the 48 years I’ve been a fan.
Well you are wrong
We never got highly rated recruits
Maybe one top 15 player every 3 or 4 years
Pitino built rosters out of guys that stayed 4 years and became good
 

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Don't think he was but could be wrong. If he was that's 5. I think he was pretty unheralded
Well here's a stat for ya that is 100%
From 1996 to 2008 we had 7 . In 13 years
Pitino had probably 7 in his time here
So 14 in 21 years isn't exactly getting the best
All the time
And there were a few years we had 3 and 2
 

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2005-2009 wasn't that long ago. We saw it back then. Markinyo Williams, Sheray Thomas. Conner Tucker, Vinnie Zollo. This isn't unprecedented.
During the last few years of Tubby there was a kid that chose Notre Dame prep school (high school) over us. I can't remember his name at the moment.
 
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Well here's a stat for ya that is 100%
From 1996 to 2008 we had 7 . In 13 years
Pitino had probably 7 in his time here
So 14 in 21 years isn't exactly getting the best
All the time
And there were a few years we had 3 and 2
Yea but think about this. Jamal Mashburn was not a McDonalds AA but another player in his recruiting class was. Gimel Martinez.
 

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No. Most of those teams had one MM and a lot of 4 stars and a few 3 stars. Don't take my word for it, look it up
I did look it up. I’m not talking top 10 or NBA success. I’m not concerned with how many guys were busts or didn’t live up to their ranking. I’m just listing the guys who were AAs upon entering college, which makes them elite recruits. We didn’t have super in depth rankings in the 80s & early 90s. But, even guys who made 4th team would be considered top 20 recruits. That’s elite, IMO. And, again, we didn’t have so many open roster spots every year & we weren’t promising the world to FR. Regardless, here’s a list of most HS AAs who played at UK between 1980-2000.

Sam Bowie 1978 & 1979 1st team AA (Parade & McD’s)
Derrick Hord 1978 & 1979 1st team AA (Parade), 2nd team AA (McD’s)
Charles Hurt 1979 3rd team AA (Parade)
Dirk Minniefield 1979 2nd team AA (Parade)
Brett Bearup 1980 2nd team AA (Parade & McD’s)
Jim Master 1980 2nd team AA (Parade & McD’s)
Roger Harden 1982 3rd team AA (McD’s)
Kenny Walker 1982 3rd team AA (McD’s)
Winston Bennett 1983 1st team AA (Parade) 3rd team AA (McD’s)
James Blackmon 1983 1st team AA (Parade & McD’s)
Ed Davender 1984 3rd team AA (Parade & McD’s)
Cedrick Jenkins 1984 3rd team AA (McD’s)
Richard Madison 1984 1st team AA (Parade & McD’s)
Irving Thomas 1985 1st team AA (Parade & McD’s)
Rex Chapman 1986 1st team AA (Parade & McD’s)
Derrick Miller 1986 3rd team AA (Parade)
LeRon Ellis 1987 1st team AA (Parade)
Eric Manuel 1986 3rd team AA (McD’s)
Chris Mills 1987 2nd team AA (Parade) 1988 1st team AA (Parade), 2nd team AA (McD’s)
Tony Delk 1992 2nd team AA (Parade), 4th team AA (McD’s)
Walter McCarty 1992 3rd team AA (Parade)
Rodrick Rhodes 1990-1992 AA (Parade), 1992 1st team AA (McD’s)
Antoine Walker 1994 1st team AA (McD’s)
Ron Mercer 1st team AA 1994 & 1995 (Parade), 1995 1st team AA (McD’s)
Wayne Turner 1995 1st team AA (McD’s)
Tayshaun Prince 1998 2nd team AA (Parade & McD’s)
Keith Bogans 1999 1st team AA (Parade & McD’s)
Marvin Stone 1999 1st team AA (Parade), 3rd team AA (McD’s)

Again, idc how their careers played out. Just listing the AAs that were signed. Even if they became busts, they were still HS AAs. Cal had his share who didn’t pan out, too.
 
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