Basketball Rutgers big man Emmanuel Ogbole is entering the Transfer Portal

needmorecowbell

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You’re making my point. Cliff went to a better team with a better coach who limited his minutes to 19 per game, same as EO, and Cliff still got 4 shots per game versus 3 for Manny.

Here’s a comparison:

Cliff: 19m, 6.5 reb, 1.1 blks, 7.9 pts, 73%FG
EO: 19m, 6.0 reb, 1.2 blks, 4.7 pts, 60%FG

(Cliff also averaged 2.6 fouls, Manny only 2.2)

My point is that in a better system Manny’s FG% and point total would also improve, even if he only got one more shot per game.

Even at that, their numbers don’t seem to be too far off, especially when you consider how much Cliff got paid. Surely, a team will see the value in having EO as a backup center.
You said more touches and more shots. EO is not getting more touches and more shots for a good team. It’s that simple. Could he contribute his 5 fouls and bang down low, sure.
 
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seansherm

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You’re making my point. Cliff went to a better team with a better coach who limited his minutes to 19 per game, same as EO, and Cliff still got 4 shots per game versus 3 for Manny.

Here’s a comparison:

Cliff: 19m, 6.5 reb, 1.1 blks, 7.9 pts, 73%FG
EO: 19m, 6.0 reb, 1.2 blks, 4.7 pts, 60%FG

(Cliff also averaged 2.6 fouls, Manny only 2.2)

My point is that in a better system Manny’s FG% and point total would also improve, even if he only got one more shot per game.

Even at that, their numbers don’t seem to be too far off, especially when you consider how much Cliff got paid. Surely, a team will see the value in having EO as a backup center.
I said it all year, EO's numbers would have looked different if we just fed the post one or two extra times a game, rather than run stuff for him just on the first trip down the court each half.
 
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He started 30 of 34 games this season and some of Pike’s attempts at acquiring a transfer big man have resulted in players like Ralph “man amongst boys” Agee and Baye Fall
Yeah..but i don't think anyone thinks him as THE starter next season is the answer.

He started those games because Pike is a failure at the 5 spot.

I firmly believe Manny would be a very decent year 5 player IF he had a coaching staff that had ANY big man clues.
 
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I’m actually going to defend the staff on this one after giving it more thought. Give Pike some credit for doing the right thing. If what Richie said is accurate, the status of EO’s waiver is unknown, so he might not be eligible to play. RU is not in a position to “wait and see”. Technically, EO could still return to RU (he won’t) but if he didn’t put his name in the portal he’d have no options other than RU if he is granted the waiver. He was advised properly and I’d like to think our staff was honest that we couldn’t wait around to find out under any circumstance.
Most fair assessment I've read on this forum in years.

Its Rutgers..we aint getting no consideration from the NCAA.. They like to use us as thier balance to give blue bloods the benefits. Until we grow some balls.. 1 day. ..when we really become big time.
 

RU848789

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I would've liked to keep EO around for one more year, but as a backup, as he's just not productive enough for starter's minutes, but I think he'd be a solid backup (much better than some of the other schollie big men we've brought in the past few years), especially as he made some strides late in the season and is still just learning the game, plus he's a bright well-liked kid from all accounts, and would be able to provide some intangibles as a leader in the program (some continuity is usually a good thing). I'm guessing he knew he'd be a backup and wanted more minutes.
 

MADHAT1

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Good luck to him, he tried his best for the team, but it's next man up time for Rutgers and improving the position time as well.
 

RAC93

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Not sure why people are lamenting his departure
Agreed, he is really only a Break Glass in Case of Emergency, 3rd string Center on a big ten team, that is because of his size. I get it that we have nothing so that may be making people long for Ogbole, but we have to strive for better than Ogbole. The plan all along should have been we bring in upgraded frontcourt players and Ogbole is no longer in the mix with the program (Plus, he was out of eligibility to begin with so this is not some shocking, hot take saying Ogbole needs to be pushed out the door, the door was closed on him due to eligibility). I don’t know if we will get better frontcourt players than him, but the starting point goal HAS to be to strive bring in better than Ogbole. I give him credit for his effort and playing hard, but we need better.
 

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He doesn't qualify for a waiver under current NCAA rules. Full stop. That said, maybe the NCAA will change its rules, specifically, extend the Diego Pavia rule (JUCO doesn't count) to 2026 and beyond. Or maybe they give Ogbole an extra year just because they feel like it. But he is in no way entitled to the extra year, nor should he have any reason to expect it.
Completely fair that last year one year of playing JUCO wouldn’t count but this year it will with many players losing out on compensation in six figures or more simply because they became seniors in the wrong year.
 

RUBigFrank

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Too often a ball was thrown to the post and Emanuel could not reel it in! Players were aware of this and opted not to pass to an open post player.
 

Mholinko

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Not sure why people are lamenting his departure
BAC you know why… even I’m negative more than I wish I was but you know know the frontcourt is looking bleak at the moment

I would’ve taken him back as a backup… right now our backup played less than baye fall
 
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DHajekRC1984

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I would've liked to keep EO around for one more year, but as a backup, as he's just not productive enough for starter's minutes, but I think he'd be a solid backup (much better than some of the other schollie big men we've brought in the past few years), especially as he made some strides late in the season and is still just learning the game, plus he's a bright well-liked kid from all accounts, and would be able to provide some intangibles as a leader in the program (some continuity is usually a good thing). I'm guessing he knew he'd be a backup and wanted more minutes.
Agree but I think PSALs post nails it. Just wish Pike would confirm
It would be a good PR move.IF true.
 

seansherm

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I’m actually going to defend the staff on this one after giving it more thought. Give Pike some credit for doing the right thing. If what Richie said is accurate, the status of EO’s waiver is unknown, so he might not be eligible to play. RU is not in a position to “wait and see”. Technically, EO could still return to RU (he won’t) but if he didn’t put his name in the portal he’d have no options other than RU if he is granted the waiver. He was advised properly and I’d like to think our staff was honest that we couldn’t wait around to find out under any circumstance.
This is a possibility, BUT, we signed Duarte who we don't know if he's eligible, and are in contact with Amari Monroe who also is petitioning for another year and therefore uncertain, and would cost even more than EO if waiting on him.
 

seansherm

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Agreed, he is really only a Break Glass in Case of Emergency, 3rd string Center on a big ten team, that is because of his size. I get it that we have nothing so that may be making people long for Ogbole, but we have to strive for better than Ogbole. The plan all along should have been we bring in upgraded frontcourt players and Ogbole is no longer in the mix with the program (Plus, he was out of eligibility to begin with so this is not some shocking, hot take saying Ogbole needs to be pushed out the door, the door was closed on him due to eligibility). I don’t know if we will get better frontcourt players than him, but the starting point goal HAS to be to strive bring in better than Ogbole. I give him credit for his effort and playing hard, but we need better.
He's a back up in the Big. He was 20th in the conference in rebounding and only one of those above him played even less than 4 minutes more per game. He had a plus attribute, which only like 3 guys on the had.
 

Mr. Magoo1

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Yeah..but i don't think anyone thinks him as THE starter next season is the answer.

He started those games because Pike is a failure at the 5 spot.

I firmly believe Manny would be a very decent year 5 player IF he had a coaching staff that had ANY big man clues.

Problem is I don’t see how anyone could have confidence that Pike will bring in someone better..probably why Ware is staying.
 

PSAL_Hoops

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This is a possibility, BUT, we signed Duarte who we don't know if he's eligible, and are in contact with Amari Monroe who also is petitioning for another year and therefore uncertain, and would cost even more than EO if waiting on him.

Duarte is completely different. We’re probably paying him like 100K (and it may be contingent on qualifying) but regardless it’s not a material percentage of our over all budget.

As far as Amari Monroe, we could well be having the same conversations with EO and with him. The point was, for his own good, EO had to enter the portal otherwise RU would be his only option and RU isn’t in a position to wait around in a center. I highly doubt we’re planning to lock in Monroe on that pretense either. Probably just in discussions in case his waiver comes through before we finalize our roster.

Big O is going to get at least 1M somewhere IMO. Seems like every playable center is getting that. We’re not in a position to set that kind of money aside and it is not know when and if he will find out his status. So there wasn’t really a point in considering him an option.
 

satnom

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The Doorson comparison is pretty accurate

Doorson 121 gm, 1482 min, 254pts(2.1), 336 reb(2.8) 58%
3.7pts, 4.3reb senior season.
Ogbole 67gm, 1031 min, 251pts(3.7), 310reb(4.6) 58%

Doorson just played more unproductive games early in his career.
Aah Doorson’s physique was no where the chiseled body of EO. Doorson played double the games EO played and still only scored 3 Pts more and had 25 boards more than EO over a career.

Sorry but Doorson was nothing to write home about yet some RU fans would select a Doorson over EO to be RU’s backup center.

If EO becomes eligible he will garner P5 interest.

GO Ru
 

Shelby65

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Assuming he gets his waiver, I can see a decent team paying him as a backup center.

I also wouldn’t be surprised if he gets more touches and easy buckets with a coach who understands the offensive game better than Pike.
What ? Ain’t no such thing as an easy bucket for him even if he is alone in a gym.
 

Shelby65

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It’s unreal the hate for him. He’s going to get close to 7 figures somewhere. Good for him.
Not hate. It’s that whatever he does on offense isn’t actual basketball. Anyone who can dribble just one time, and catch just one pass and make a shot from beyond 2 feet away would be a big upgrade.
 

Mholinko

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Not hate. It’s that whatever he does on offense isn’t actual basketball. Anyone who can dribble just one time, and catch just one pass and make a shot from beyond 2 feet away would be a big upgrade.
At the moment it’s better than what we’re after at center
 
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Shelby65

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At the moment it’s better than what we’re after at center
Unless we’re not pursuing real basketball players, it can’t be better. I’d prefer him to tennis, soccer and golf kids in the portal. Not ahead of anyone meeting the three basketball criteria above.
 

PSAL_Hoops

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Unless we’re not pursuing real basketball players, it can’t be better. I’d prefer him to tennis, soccer and golf kids in the portal. Not ahead of anyone meeting the three basketball criteria above.
Clearly he was ahead of Ware and Fall…. would’ve been ahead of Agee. And so on. This is not accurate.
 

Shelby65

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You note other pseudoplayers. Doesn’t say anything about #21s lack of college ability.

Put them all in an empty gym, first bucket wins and the game might take 5 hours.
 

PSAL_Hoops

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You note other pseudoplayers. Doesn’t say anything about #21s lack of college ability.

Put them all in an empty gym, first bucket wins and the game might take 5 hours.
I don’t even know what this means but if Ware, Fall and Ogbole were interchangable I highly doubt Ogbole would’ve logged 19 mpg while the other 2 didn’t see the court. Your making no sense at all. In 19 mpg he averaged 4.7 points and 6 rebounds in the BIG. This is hardly zero college ability at all. Nobody is saying he’s great but this is why nobody takes you seriously.
 
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Shelby65

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I don’t even know what this means but if Ware, Fall and Ogbole were interchangable I highly doubt Ogbole would’ve logged 19 mpg while the other 2 didn’t see the court. You’re making no sense at all. In 19 mpg he averaged 4.7 points and 6 rebounds in the BIG. This is hardly zero college ability at all. Nobody is saying he’s great but this is why nobody takes you seriously.
Stats so impressive he’ll make big bank and be a starter in a top conference ? Not great, not good, and not even the high end of lousy. Starting him is surrender.
 

PSAL_Hoops

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Stats so impressive he’ll make big bank and be a starter in a top conference ? Not great, not good, and not even the high end of lousy. Starting him is surrender.

So which is it? You said he has zero college level playing ability. How is that the same thing as being good enough to start in the BIG. He’s not meant to be a high major starter. probably good enough to start for a middling A-10 team and that role is probably still worth 7 figures.