Swalwell the Democratic Jeffrey Epstein Alleged Pedophile

PalmettoTiger1

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Should news outlets apologize and scrub Swalwell from their news as he in his own way was a mini Jeffrey Epstein while projecting toward any vulnerable Republican claiming they were guilty of some sex crime without credible information.

Great example of fact based credible investigations are needed before baseless allegations are spread
 

dpic73

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Should news outlets apologize and scrub Swalwell from their news as he in his own way was a mini Jeffrey Epstein while projecting toward any vulnerable Republican claiming they were guilty of some sex crime without credible information.

Great example of fact based credible investigations are needed before baseless allegations are spread
Why didn't you mention Tony Gonzalez? His side piece burned herself alive because of what he put her through.
 

dpic73

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I believe the thread was about Swalwell...but if you start one on Gonzalez, I'm pretty sure the reaction would be the same...
His statement is non-sensical but claims Swalwell is a mini-Epstein and something, something about projecting sex crimes onto Republicans. Swalwell and Gonzalez have the same jobs and Gonzalez is just as guilty - not projected as guilty. He should include both but he's clearly trying but stumbling to make a case only about democrats.
 

baltimorened

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His statement is non-sensical but claims Swalwell is a mini-Epstein and something, something about projecting sex crimes onto Republicans. Swalwell and Gonzalez have the same jobs and Gonzalez is just as guilty - not projected as guilty. He should include both but he's clearly trying but stumbling to make a case only about democrats.
I understand, but the "what about the other guy" can better be debated in a separate thread IMO.

Other wise the next post will be "what about the congresswoman from Florida?"
 

dpic73

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I understand, but the "what about the other guy" can better be debated in a separate thread IMO.

Other wise the next post will be "what about the congresswoman from Florida?"
Whatever, it didn't make sense in the first place but when you have two Congressmen, both accused of sex crimes, who resigned at the same time, it's a clearly partisan take if you don't include the other one who is guilty of the same.
 
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tboonpickens

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Whatever, it didn't make sense in the first place but when you have two Congressmen, both accused of sex crimes, who resigned at the same time, it's a clearly partisan take if you don't include the other one who is guilty of the same.
lol i'll hold my breath for the next time pious ned starts a thread about Republican perverts and sex offenders including the moron he voted into the WH
 

Moogy

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Swallwell needs to go to jail if these accusations are true. Full stop.

Just like all the other perverts and rapists on both sides of the aisle.

But this is part of the problem ... non-MAGAts have morals. They have integrity. And MAGAts, like @baltimorened, take advantage of this. So, when a Dem or Independent is accused of something, we take it seriously and undergo the necessary steps to investigate and, if found responsible, hold them politically/criminally/civilly liable. Meanwhile, they had a self-admitted sexual predator who was adjudicated a sexual abuser, who is a convicted serial felon, and who is obviously connected to many other substantive, legitimate crimes ... and they said "he should be our leader!" They don't care. They just want to harm non-MAGAts and reduce their power, so they can take power, and they use our integrity against us. They're the swamp ... and then some.
 

baltimorened

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Whatever, it didn't make sense in the first place but when you have two Congressmen, both accused of sex crimes, who resigned at the same time, it's a clearly partisan take if you don't include the other one who is guilty of the same.
I get your point, but it leads to the concept that when someone posts something about trump..the response is "but Biden" over similar issues...or the converse a Biden decision that leads to a "but Trump"...

and no I'm not suggesting sexual assault as the issue...

But, hey, this is a message board, everyone can post what they want.
 

dpic73

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I get your point, but it leads to the concept that when someone posts something about trump..the response is "but Biden" over similar issues...or the converse a Biden decision that leads to a "but Trump"...

and no I'm not suggesting sexual assault as the issue...

But, hey, this is a message board, everyone can post what they want.
Exactly, what a great lightbulb moment for our resident hall monitor 💡
 
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baltimorened

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Exactly, what a great lightbulb moment for our resident hall monitor 💡
why do you have to resort to idioms in your posts..especially without even addressing the major issue of the topic. Come on, I'm not the enemy. If you don't agree with me, fine, but I have never proposed myself as a hall monitor. You don't like my opinions, fine...
 

PalmettoTiger1

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Are you insane, @PalmettoTiger1? I genuinely wonder. Swalwell has not been accused of doing anything to children.

It is alleged that underage children were present while the sexual assaults occurred as the underage person reportedly was filming the action

Let me be clear that it is alleged

I was floored and waiting to hear more
 

dpic73

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why do you have to resort to idioms in your posts..especially without even addressing the major issue of the topic. Come on, I'm not the enemy. If you don't agree with me, fine, but I have never proposed myself as a hall monitor. You don't like my opinions, fine...
C'mon man, you decided to attack my post because you didn't agree with my take, even though I felt it was valid, you didn't. I made my case and you still disagreed with it and spun up a non-relevant whataboutism that didn't apply about Biden.

This is silly, move along please.
 

PalmettoTiger1

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Why didn't you mention Tony Gonzalez? His side piece burned herself alive because of what he put her through.

I have you on ignore but turned on you so I could respond to your upset

You will see where I said Gonzalez should be gone NOW

What he do in my opinion was bad but Swalwell has far exceeded Gonzalez

In my opinion

Both need to be gone
 

PalmettoTiger1

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Why didn't you mention Tony Gonzalez? His side piece burned herself alive because of what he put her through.

Also it was well known among news outlets for years about the Swalwell rapes but the Main Street media tamped it down so Swalwell could hypocritically complain about unprovable allegations as much as 45 years old

The Democrats let him be the manic attack dog on their behalf

Really bad taste
 

dpic73

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Also it was well known among news outlets for years about the Swalwell rapes but the Main Street media tamped it down so Swalwell could hypocritically complain about unprovable allegations as much as 45 years old

The Democrats let him be the manic attack dog on their behalf

Really bad taste
k
 

baltimorened

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But not Jane Doe #4 from the Epstein files, who's deposition was redacted ... FOR SOME REASON.
from my perspective...I don't know anything at all about Jane doe #4 - never heard that description before -but what I was referring to was the recorded, interview where 3 young woman, fully on screen, reported their experiences, opinions on swalwell. They all came off as believeable.

I'm not saying Ms Doe #4 isn't believeable, and I'm not suggesting that she needs to present herself in person in a recorded interview. She has made her statement to law enforcement and the process goes from there. I don't profess to know all the facts, but from a perspective, again, I have look at the trump accusations - about 28 in all (if I recall correctly) - and in every case I found, there were no indictments or charges were dropped by accuser or by the court and nothing ever came from it. So I don't know what's accurate and what's not. You apparently are relatively certain of you'r positions. So maybe you know more than I...always possible. I don't think that all these accusations have been made during trump's terms to where he might have influenced the DoJ, but from what I've read, not all these accusers have taken cases to federal courts...anyway, I'm rambling now. So I'll just leave it at accusations have been made, investigations conducted, cases taken to court and no convictions (other than Jean Carroll). That's all I know.
 

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But this is part of the problem ... non-MAGAts have morals. They have integrity. And MAGAts, like @baltimorened, take advantage of this. So, when a Dem or Independent is accused of something, we take it seriously and undergo the necessary steps to investigate and, if found responsible, hold them politically/criminally/civilly liable. Meanwhile, they had a self-admitted sexual predator who was adjudicated a sexual abuser, who is a convicted serial felon, and who is obviously connected to many other substantive, legitimate crimes ... and they said "he should be our leader!" They don't care. They just want to harm non-MAGAts and reduce their power, so they can take power, and they use our integrity against us. They're the swamp ... and then some.
You lost most people with your opening. The rest means nothing after that. People that push and support sex changes for kids and killing babies forfeit any claim to being moral or having integrity...
 

baltimorened

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C'mon man, you decided to attack my post because you didn't agree with my take, even though I felt it was valid, you didn't. I made my case and you still disagreed with it and spun up a non-relevant whataboutism that didn't apply about Biden.

This is silly, move along please.
I don't attack anybody's posts...why would the "hall monitor" attack...the monitor keeps things at an even keel...
 

Moogy

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It is alleged that underage children were present while the sexual assaults occurred as the underage person reportedly was filming the action

Let me be clear that it is alleged

I was floored and waiting to hear more

"It is alleged" ... did you find that on Talberts.com? Sorry ... did your WIFE find it on Talberts.com? We know how you like to throw her under the bus, and then put it in reverse, then drive, then reverse, then drive ...
 

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You lost most people with your opening. The rest means nothing after that. People that push and support sex changes for kids and killing babies forfeit any claim to being moral or having integrity...
See what I mean. Those two are the moral police. They're better than others. The most sanctimonious people I've ever seen.
 
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from my perspective...I don't know anything at all about Jane doe #4 - never heard that description before -but what I was referring to was the recorded, interview where 3 young woman, fully on screen, reported their experiences, opinions on swalwell. They all came off as believeable.

I'm not saying Ms Doe #4 isn't believeable, and I'm not suggesting that she needs to present herself in person in a recorded interview. She has made her statement to law enforcement and the process goes from there. I don't profess to know all the facts, but from a perspective, again, I have look at the trump accusations - about 28 in all (if I recall correctly) - and in every case I found, there were no indictments or charges were dropped by accuser or by the court and nothing ever came from it. So I don't know what's accurate and what's not. You apparently are relatively certain of you'r positions. So maybe you know more than I...always possible. I don't think that all these accusations have been made during trump's terms to where he might have influenced the DoJ, but from what I've read, not all these accusers have taken cases to federal courts...anyway, I'm rambling now. So I'll just leave it at accusations have been made, investigations conducted, cases taken to court and no convictions (other than Jean Carroll). That's all I know.
all of your gatekeeping on credible accusations can be attributed to your ignorance. Go google jane doe #4 and watch her interview. Or go read the FBI's 4 seperate depositions from someone they viewed as credible. Don't sit here, spending time gatekeeping when you could be learning. Also, think critically about the news sources you consume, because they aren't informing you on this particular topic.
 

baltimorened

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all of your gatekeeping on credible accusations can be attributed to your ignorance. Go google jane doe #4 and watch her interview. Or go read the FBI's 4 seperate depositions from someone they viewed as credible. Don't sit here, spending time gatekeeping when you could be learning. Also, think critically about the news sources you consume, because they aren't informing you on this particular topic.
well that was subtle....here's one thing about Jane doe 4 ..from googling Jane Doe #4 as directed...
The controversy centers on testimony and conflicting accounts about whether Jeffrey Epstein’s estate—controlled by co-executors Darren Indyke and Richard Kahn—made or considered making a payment to an accuser identified as “Jane Doe 4.” The issue emerged during congressional depositions, where lawmakers pressed for clarity on whether estate funds were used to settle claims tied to individuals who alleged abuse. At one point, confusion arose over whether a payment had been made to someone connected to allegations involving Donald Trump, but that claim was later walked back or clarified by attorneys, who said the individual in question may have been misidentified or not recognized by the executors.

The dispute over Jeffrey Epstein’s estate has taken on added weight because of testimony referencing a potential payment tied to an accuser known as “Jane Doe 4,” whose allegations have been reported to include claims involving Donald Trump. During questioning, lawmakers pressed Epstein’s longtime associates and estate co-executors, Darren Indyke and Richard Kahn, about whether estate funds were used—or considered—to resolve claims connected to that accuser. At one point, statements suggested a payment may have been made, which would have lent credibility to the accuser’s claims by implying some level of acknowledgment or settlement. However, that assertion quickly became muddled, with attorneys and witnesses walking back or clarifying the testimony, saying there was confusion about the identity of the accuser and whether any such payment actually occurred.

What makes this significant is not just the uncertainty, but what it implies about how Epstein’s estate is being managed. If a payment were made to an accuser tied to allegations involving Trump, it would raise serious questions about both the credibility of the claims and the decision-making process behind estate settlements. At the same time, the conflicting testimony and lack of clear documentation have fueled skepticism about transparency, particularly given Indyke and Kahn’s longstanding ties to Epstein and their control over victim compensation. The situation underscores a broader concern: whether the estate is functioning as a vehicle for fairly resolving claims—or as a tightly controlled system where financial decisions, legal exposure, and reputational risks for powerful figures are being carefully managed behind the scenes.

So, I did what you asked and googled Jane Doe #4...I'm not sure I found what you wanted me to find..other than apparent contradictory statements about whether or not she received a settlement from the estate. So what I deduce is that someone made an accusation, but that's as far as it got....Now if you could help me with a little better search topic, I'll go back..I don't want to stay ignorant.

I'm not gatekeeping for anyone. I have posted many times that if I had been abused by Donald Trump and had proof, I'd sue the bejesus out of him and would be settled on my yacht in the Caribbean. Absent that, I'd walk into a law enforcement office that had jurisdiction and file a complaint. But at this point, from what I have been able to ascertain, neither of those has happened. Now recognizing that I might be even more ignorant than even you think, if you have something that addresses all these, i'm eager to be educated.
 

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Should news outlets apologize and scrub Swalwell from their news as he in his own way was a mini Jeffrey Epstein while projecting toward any vulnerable Republican claiming they were guilty of some sex crime without credible information.

Great example of fact based credible investigations are needed before baseless allegations are spread

Like attracts like. Swalwell and Epstein are both democrats...
 

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Epstein donated big to the Democrats for much of the 90s and early 2000s. Know who else did? Donald Trump.

Both men switched when Obama became president and Epstein started donating heavily to Republicans and voting republican. He's said literally all this in depositions.

Men like Epstein go whichever way the wind blows. They don't have any principles.