$5M for the Top Center in the Portal

Hawkeye1984

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The funniest part is that these players' performances never justify their prices, this includes football too. It's too bad that they can't be performance based instead.
I’d argue some of the guards will match the price with performance. For example like John Blackwell. If Illinois gets John Blackwell they will be a final four contender. It’s interesting with Illinois…they use to be the garbage disposal of the BIG and now look at them. They get this massive injection of cash in the NIL era and now they are “buying” blue blood status. If Iowa doesn’t find big reliable donors we are in for a bumpy ride.
 

Franisdaman

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Serious question, who reports these numbers?
I'm not necessarily doubting it ,but without something substantial its just all speculation.
We have no idea what we played players last year other than speculation.

I think the agents gladly leak the numbers. Why? They can then get more big name clients who want a big pay day, too. And then that agent can get $6M for his next guy and tell the world about it.

Owen Freeman got paid between $1.8M and $2.0M this season. No wonder the Creighton head coach retired!
 

Franisdaman

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is this NIL money or is this pay from the University (revenue sharing)? I swore they said NIL Go was suppose to stop this insanity of pay for play crap.

Revenue Sharing from the school + money from companies/boosters = total in NIL paid to the roster.

For this particular player: how much came from each pot, who knows; all he (and his agent) cares about is the $5M figure.

And you are right; the clearing house still, technically, has to approve this.

Iowa's total number (rev share + money from boosters/companies) is expected to be at least $12M.
 

Franisdaman

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Just wrong

And the toothpaste is out of the tube.

Now, every time the NCAA tries to put up guard rails, they get sued and lose.

People keeps saying that there needs to be a CBA (collective bargaining agreement) but why would the players sit down & negotiate a salary cap or anything else that puts restrictions on what they currently are getting?
 

chuck285

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Serious question, who reports these numbers?
I'm not necessarily doubting it ,but without something substantial its just all speculation.
We have no idea what we played players last year other than speculation.
I'm pretty sure agents are throwing out crazy numbers just to drive prices up this year and next year.....
 
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Rambler Hawk

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I’d argue some of the guards will match the price with performance. For example like John Blackwell. If Illinois gets John Blackwell they will be a final four contender. It’s interesting with Illinois…they use to be the garbage disposal of the BIG and now look at them. They get this massive injection of cash in the NIL era and now they are “buying” blue blood status. If Iowa doesn’t find big reliable donors we are in for a bumpy ride.
I think if Self would have stuck around they would’ve turned into a borderline blue blood, their Alumni contingent is huge with deep pockets - so they will be a top 10 program from here on out….🥲
 

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The only way this ends if the colleges themselves decide as a collective group that they aren't going to pay this much. We all know this isn't going to happen because everyone wants to win the elusive national championship. An act of congress or executive order isn't going to do anything and the NCAA trying to establish guidelines is only going to be met with court challenges. If colleges would decide to band together then I anticipate it wouldn't take more than a year or two to bring things back under control.
 

OnlyTheObscure

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And the toothpaste is out of the tube.

Now, every time the NCAA tries to put up guard rails, they get sued and lose.

People keeps saying that there needs to be a CBA (collective bargaining agreement) but why would the players sit down & negotiate a salary cap or anything else that puts restrictions on what they currently are getting?
And how do you form a union. College seniors are done so they are not included. You have high school junior and seniors getting paid.

tough to get a group of people together in such a tight window. Also, who are we taking about? All of DI? Many of the hot transfers are from small conference schools.

also, the elephant in the room is you will lose in court trying to limit endorsement money. Yes, endorsement money includes the b.s. collectives. You going to have a committee decide if a payment is really an endorsement? Who defines market value? It’s not tangible. You are worth what somebody is willing to pay you.

Tightening up the transfer ls is about the only option and I am not sure that survives a court battle.

I doubt the schools can even stop collectives if they tried. Going to audit a college kid’s income? Going to audit their parent’s income?
 
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AFM22

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is this NIL money or is this pay from the University (revenue sharing)? I swore they said NIL Go was suppose to stop this insanity of pay for play crap.
I heard Wisconsin is going to start allocating $14.6 million in taxes annually to Wisconsin-Madison to go directly to revenue sharing/NIL.
 
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And the toothpaste is out of the tube.

Now, every time the NCAA tries to put up guard rails, they get sued and lose.

People keeps saying that there needs to be a CBA (collective bargaining agreement) but why would the players sit down & negotiate a salary cap or anything else that puts restrictions on what they currently are getting?
Well there is one drastic way to go about it......................and I'd honestly be here for it. 😁
 
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The only way this ends if the colleges themselves decide as a collective group that they aren't going to pay this much. We all know this isn't going to happen because everyone wants to win the elusive national championship. An act of congress or executive order isn't going to do anything and the NCAA trying to establish guidelines is only going to be met with court challenges. If colleges would decide to band together then I anticipate it wouldn't take more than a year or two to bring things back under control.
Too many, though, are unwilling to give up the money that comes with the success that they bought (or at least when and IF it works out in their favor)............
 
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And how do you form a union. College seniors are done so they are not included. You have high school junior and seniors getting paid.

tough to get a group of people together in such a tight window. Also, who are we taking about? All of DI? Many of the hot transfers are from small conference schools.

also, the elephant in the room is you will lose in court trying to limit endorsement money. Yes, endorsement money includes the b.s. collectives. You going to have a committee decide if a payment is really an endorsement? Who defines market value? It’s not tangible. You are worth what somebody is willing to pay you.

Tightening up the transfer ls is about the only option and I am not sure that survives a court battle.

I doubt the schools can even stop collectives if they tried. Going to audit a college kid’s income? Going to audit their parent’s income?
Then force the court system to stop letting these players win when they sue.

Simple solution. 😃
 
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Franisdaman

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And how do you form a union. College seniors are done so they are not included. You have high school junior and seniors getting paid.

tough to get a group of people together in such a tight window. Also, who are we taking about? All of DI? Many of the hot transfers are from small conference schools.

also, the elephant in the room is you will lose in court trying to limit endorsement money. Yes, endorsement money includes the b.s. collectives. You going to have a committee decide if a payment is really an endorsement? Who defines market value? It’s not tangible. You are worth what somebody is willing to pay you.

Tightening up the transfer ls is about the only option and I am not sure that survives a court battle.

I doubt the schools can even stop collectives if they tried. Going to audit a college kid’s income? Going to audit their parent’s income?

All I know is the so called experts say that a collective bargaining agreement is the only thing that will put up the guard rails that are needed. But like I said, why would the players want anything to change? Why would they want to agree on limiting their income? I don't think they really care about "for the good of the game."
 

oldxbbc

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All I know is the so called experts say that a collective bargaining agreement is the only thing that will put up the guard rails that are needed. But like I said, why would the players want anything to change? Why would they want to agree on limiting their income? I don't think they really care about "for the good of the game."
Unfortunately true. How the “game” has changed.
 
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The Big Z

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Unfortunately true. How the “game” has changed.
Why is it up to the players to decide what is " for the good of the game?" As long as someone is willing to pay them absolutely none of this is their fault. Zero rules and regulations in place.
 

TampaHawkFan

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All I know is the so called experts say that a collective bargaining agreement is the only thing that will put up the guard rails that are needed. But like I said, why would the players want anything to change? Why would they want to agree on limiting their income? I don't think they really care about "for the good of the game."
Truth. They wouldn't want guardrails, and any guardrails added won't come without a big fight (see MLB and the salary cap in '94, and maybe this coming offseason).
 

Franisdaman

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Unfortunately true. How the “game” has changed.

Last season the MLB commissioner was visiting the Phillies and was in ear shot of Bryce Harper. The commissioner brought up a salary cap and Bryce gave his opinion on that using some F bombs and other choice words.

By the time his contract is up in 2031, his career earnings will be $366,629,629.

Bryce has a shoe deal and other endorsement deals, too, or course.

The NFL is so great because the salary cap gives every team a chance. I doubt we'll ever see a salary cap in MLB because of the players like Bryce Harper, who like that money above all else.
 
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Hawk_4shur

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And the toothpaste is out of the tube.

Now, every time the NCAA tries to put up guard rails, they get sued and lose.

People keeps saying that there needs to be a CBA (collective bargaining agreement) but why would the players sit down & negotiate a salary cap or anything else that puts restrictions on what they currently are getting?
I agree with you.

There simply needs to be rules - with teeth.

Grandfather in the current deals.