Is Big East Best for SHU into the future?

hallwins

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They will never give a damn about them without substantial football, which they will never have.
Duke and Kansas were potentially on the outside looking in during last realignment. It is insane. Exactly the reason Coach K started throwing out ACC and Big East merger talk.

Big Ten and SEC run everything from a business perspective.
 

Blue Bloods

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They will never give a damn about them without substantial football, which they will never have.
They will if they truly want to get rid of the Big East. Plus it doesn't hurt their conference having a team in the Final Four every year. How many times did you see the graphic with conference representation leading up to the championship game?
 
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Anon1774390042

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They will never give a damn about them without substantial football, which they will never have.
Completely NOT TRUE!
Did you know UCONN has made a bowl game as an independent, 3 of last 4 years?
UCONN had ac1st team All American this year. Will be a high round draft pick. UCONN has nearly 10 current NFL players.
They just got a proven excellent new head coach, Jason Candke, from the best MAC program.
With big conference $$, UCONN can be a respectable football program. Not going to be Ohio State but can they be pretty good? Yes, absolutely.
 
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HallLine69

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For those that want to ludicrously go to A-10, it would be the equivalent of lighting the basketball program on fire. A death blow.
Fordham's basketball program is a joke. Using them as a guide to a course to be taken is like driving a car off a cliff.
The true measure of success for Fordham is the answer to the question "was de-emphasizing men's basketball a healthy decision for the overall health of the University?". I don't know that answer.
 

HallLine69

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For the year ended 06/30/24, Seton Hall received $4,742,928 from the Big East.

For the year ended 06/30/24, the average Atlantic 10 program received $287,902

Where do I LOL??
That was eye-opening for me. I assume the payout for MAAC schools is even lower.
 

NYShoreGuy

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Sure, but were we not at risk of losing the Garden for our conference tournament before they re-joined? I would imagine that could be a major risk again post 2030/31 realignment.
Nope worry point is April of 2032...as of now ncaa deal with wbd/paramount comes to an end and big east deal with msg comes to an end
 

NIL BAD

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The only reason Uconn hired the MAC coach was because their previous football coach (who guided them to bowl games in 3 out of the past 4 years) left for greener pastures to a non Power 4 school.
 

BrklynGrad

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The true measure of success for Fordham is the answer to the question "was de-emphasizing men's basketball a healthy decision for the overall health of the University?". I don't know that answer.
Did Fordham de-emphasize basketball or just make a lot of questionable decisions?
 

PhishingPirate088

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Sure, but were we not at risk of losing the Garden for our conference tournament before they re-joined? I would imagine that could be a major risk again post 2030/31 realignment.

Could be. It’s apples to oranges but Dolan operates in his own unique way. If you look at how he books music, of course he brings in the current hot acts BUT he has no issues booking bands he obviously likes and enjoys to huge dates at all his venues

So maybe he just likes the big east there and the rest doesn’t matter
 

dehere23

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MSG’s partnership with SJU seems as strong as ever, and the Big East tourneys continue to kill it from an attendance and interest perspective. So I don’t see that changing.

In fact the opposite may be true. I read somewhere that Pitino is trying to get MSG to essentially “takeover NIL” for SJU men’s basketball.
 

dehere23

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MSG’s partnership with SJU seems as strong as ever, and the Big East tourneys continue to kill it from an attendance and interest perspective. So I don’t see that changing.

In fact the opposite may be true. I read somewhere that Pitino is trying to get MSG to essentially “takeover NIL” for SJU men’s
 
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Completely NOT TRUE!
Did you know UCONN has made a bowl game as an independent, 3 of last 4 years?
UCONN had ac1st team All American this year. Will be a high round draft pick. UCONN has nearly 10 current NFL players.
They just got a proven excellent new head coach, Jason Candke, from the best MAC program.
With big conference $$, UCONN can be a respectable football program. Not going to be Ohio State but can they be pretty good? Yes, absolutely.

Completely true. They are rutgers, North.
 
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MSG’s partnership with SJU seems as strong as ever, and the Big East tourneys continue to kill it from an attendance and interest perspective. So I don’t see that changing.

In fact the opposite may be true. I read somewhere that Pitino is trying to get MSG to essentially “takeover NIL” for SJU men’s

Interesting. When I asked someone at SHU who would know, Prudential gives us almost nothing back (but does employ a ton of our alums).
 

dehere23

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Interesting. When I asked someone at SHU who would know, Prudential gives us almost nothing back (but does employ a ton of our alums).
I haven't read they've had any success in getting "buy in" from MSG. I think it was discussed on the Podcast Brunson and Josh Hart do that Pitno was a guest on earlier this year.