Seton Hall Giving Day

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well then i guess were ok janis ian GIF
 
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Halldan

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The school offered Clark $2.5M and he refused it. Word now on instagram from a college insider is that Hines is asking for $5M.

I cannot confirm the Hines ask but I 100% know the Clark offer was legit. So those that continue to laugh at the Hall, criticize Holloway and the administration maybe might want to digest the above.

Those that give are trying to help. Those that laugh at them, maybe you might want to look into a mirror.
 
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HallGuy2323

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The school offered Clark $2.5M and he refused it. Word now on instagram from a college insider is that Hines is asking for $5M.

I cannot confirm the Hines ask but I 100% know the Clark offer was legit. So those that continue to laugh at the Hall, criticize Holloway and the administration maybe might want to digest the above.

Those that give are trying to help. Those that laugh at them, maybe you might want into a mirror.

Dan, as the news of Clark going into the portal broke you stayed off the board for days as you can’t handle the bad news around the program. Don’t come here now and patronize those of us that look at the downfall of the program with legitimate views.

Telling people to continue to “give” is a ridiculously foolish take. It literally does nothing. Maybe you need to look in the mirror with the reality of everything.
 

HallGuy2323

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Thanks for proving my point. Us 200 do more in one day to help the school than you will do in a lifetime.
I proved your point? That you think you’re better than everybody and unless you donate your life and time to SHU you aren’t worthy as a fan? Coming across quite pompous this morning Dan.
 
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Medugorje

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HallGuy2323,
I hope you are not a graduate of Seton Hall as your comments are an embarrassment. In time, I hope you have some maturity and grow up to be as good as a person that Dan has been to the school. When he departs from this site on April 15, except for occasional posts, he will be greatly missed for his insights and information on his posts.
 

HallGuy2323

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HallGuy2323,
I hope you are not a graduate of Seton Hall as your comments are an embarrassment. In time, I hope you have some maturity and grow up to be as good as a person that Dan has been to the school. When he departs from this site on April 15, except for occasional posts, he will be greatly missed for his insights and information on his posts.
Where did I say anything that he hasn’t done a ton for the program? That was not my point at all.
 

SHUSource

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Where did I say anything that he hasn’t done a ton for the program? That was not my point at all.
But your overall tone is to act like Dan is part of some big Seton Hall conspiracy to deceive and defraud you, selectively withholding information from you or otherwise attempting to mislead you. Why? He’s just a fan like we are, but he happens to be heavily involved with this message board, which is totally independent of Seton Hall? He only knows what he knows at any given time.

Why? It’s weird.
 

PhishingPirate088

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The school offered Clark $2.5M and he refused it. Word now on instagram from a college insider is that Hines is asking for $5M.

I cannot confirm the Hines ask but I 100% know the Clark offer was legit. So those that continue to laugh at the Hall, criticize Holloway and the administration maybe might want to digest the above.

Those that give are trying to help. Those that laugh at them, maybe you might want to look into a mirror.
I’m not arguing or criticizing..legit asking questions

I heard we offered “around 2” with the idea we could go up a little

And the 2.5 number was thrown back with an idea that he wanted to give a very high number because he wasn’t totally thrilled with the idea of coming back here anyway..almost like our nil offers are given a surcharge because of kids not being thrilled coming..that’s the idea I’m hearing, a little, from people I talk to

What do you think of this
 

ivyhillpark63

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I’m not arguing or criticizing..legit asking questions

I heard we offered “around 2” with the idea we could go up a little

And the 2.5 number was thrown back with an idea that he wanted to give a very high number because he wasn’t totally thrilled with the idea of coming back here anyway..almost like our nil offers are given a surcharge because of kids not being thrilled coming..that’s the idea I’m hearing, a little, from people I talk to

What do you think of this
I think its total crap . Sha took a no star no name out of the portal and molded him into a elite PG despite the fact he cant shoot the 3
Where is the gratitude?
 

HallGuy2323

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There are two or three posters that make this site miserable. Flamers or just really negative people? I don’t know but you know who you are. Please try adding something beneficial to the board and other posters instead of being such jerks. Thank you.
Hit the ignore button if you want to pretend everything is great and perfect and are afraid of legit conversation about the program. I won’t allow somebody to tell me how to be a fan.
 
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Blue Bloods

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I think its total crap . Sha took a no star no name out of the portal and molded him into a elite PG despite the fact he cant shoot the 3
Where is the gratitude?

Huh? Clark wasn't bad at all at his former school. The fact that he didn't develop a consistent jumper this season is disturbing. Besides, let Clark go. Point guards that are 5'8," with no consistent jumpshot, are a dime a dozen.
 

Hall-O-Daze

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The school offered Clark $2.5M and he refused it. Word now on instagram from a college insider is that Hines is asking for $5M.

I cannot confirm the Hines ask but I 100% know the Clark offer was legit. So those that continue to laugh at the Hall, criticize Holloway and the administration maybe might want to digest the above.

Those that give are trying to help. Those that laugh at them, maybe you might want to look into a mirror.
Do you happen to know if Clark's camp came back with a counter-proposal, or was it like we made the 2.5 million offer, Clark rejected it, and that was that with no further communication?

I certainly realize there are limits to sources and information, I'm just trying to get a clearer picture of how this all broke down. Thanks.
 

Section112

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Hit the ignore button if you want to pretend everything is great and perfect and are afraid of legit conversation about the program. I won’t allow somebody to tell me how to be a fan.
I didn’t name names so I guess you called yourself out. You do know who you are. Thanks for confirming. 😉
 

dehere23

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I think its total crap . Sha took a no star no name out of the portal and molded him into a elite PG despite the fact he cant shoot the 3
Where is the gratitude?
Agreed on your last point, but the truth lies somewhere in the middle here.

Clark was not a “no name, no star” when we got him. He was considered a really good portal get, and one of our two incoming players last year that excited people (with Hines). He was top 25 in the country in scoring as a sophomore at Merrimack and top 5 in steals. First team all league, and newcomer of the year as a freshman.

He wasn’t an elite college PG last year, but a very good one who was second team all league jumping up a level. No doubt Sha helped him make that jump, but this wasn’t getting a kid who did nothing and the all of a sudden he comes a huge star overnight.

You would think there would be some recognition by Clark in Sha undoubtedly helping him jump a level, but clearly not enough to stay. Or at least not enough to make the kid think he should stay.
 

ivyhillpark63

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Agreed on your last point, but the truth lies somewhere in the middle here.

Clark was not a “no name, no star” when we got him. He was considered a really good portal get, and one of our two incoming players last year that excited people (with Hines). He was top 25 in the country in scoring as a sophomore at Merrimack and top 5 in steals. First team all league, and newcomer of the year as a freshman.

He wasn’t an elite college PG last year, but a very good one who was second team all league jumping up a level. No doubt Sha helped him make that jump, but this wasn’t getting a kid who did nothing and the all of a sudden he comes a huge star overnight.

You would think there would be some recognition by Clark in Sha undoubtedly helping him jump a level, but clearly not enough to stay. Or at least not enough to make the kid think he should stay.
What was his portal ranking?
 

Gritty5837

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I’m not arguing or criticizing..legit asking questions

I heard we offered “around 2” with the idea we could go up a little

And the 2.5 number was thrown back with an idea that he wanted to give a very high number because he wasn’t totally thrilled with the idea of coming back here anyway..almost like our nil offers are given a surcharge because of kids not being thrilled coming..that’s the idea I’m hearing, a little, from people I talk to

What do you think of this

Any idea why he wasn’t thrilled with coming back and whats the deal with the surcharge - kids don’t wanna play for Sha or another issue?

Sha is tough to play for - then again so are guys like Hurley and Pitino. I’m guessing you can’t elaborate.
 

PhishingPirate088

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Any idea why he wasn’t thrilled with coming back and whats the deal with the surcharge - kids don’t wanna play for Sha or another issue?

Sha is tough to play for - then again so are guys like Hurley and Pitino. I’m guessing you can’t elaborate.
I’m not saying that’s 100% just the version of the story I heard

I don’t think it’s all on Sha
 
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Hall1996

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Do you happen to know if Clark's camp came back with a counter-proposal, or was it like we made the 2.5 million offer, Clark rejected it, and that was that with no further communication?

I certainly realize there are limits to sources and information, I'm just trying to get a clearer picture of how this all broke down. Thanks.
I heard we “had a deal” with Clark to return, and then his agent shopped it around and he decided to enter tn portal.
 
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BrklynGrad

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If Clark can get another $500,000 some place else, why not take it. In reality. loyalty is nice but overrated. If he flops like Coleman, he will have been 21 and will never come near earning that amount for the rest of his life.