Proposed NCAA rule change would put 5-year eligibility limit on college athletes
A new report indicates that the NCAA is proposing a new rule that would limit college athletes to five years of eligibilty.
NCAA working on 5 year rule for athletes
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How could anyone not agree with it?
The players and agents...
I meant how could anyone who actually cares about college athletics disagree with it.
They have to get this done. It's ridiculous how guys are getting 7 years or so to play college sports. Time to try, at least, to get college sports back to making more sense and not just a pro minor league for the major professional sports.
Didn't read the article (yet), but as long as they also throw in limited # of transfers in that 5 year period, I'm all for it.
It's absurd we're seeing kids get waivers to play 6, 7 years. Covid year was long ago and most of these kids are well beyond that time.
It's absurd we're seeing kids get waivers to play 6, 7 years. Covid year was long ago and most of these kids are well beyond that time.
You guys act like you want it but if our player gets injured and can only play 4 years instead of 5 like non injury players will have, you'll throw a fit and say its not fair.
or is this 5 years to play their 4 eligible ones? it makes it sound like you can play 5 years
or is this 5 years to play their 4 eligible ones? it makes it sound like you can play 5 years
According to the concept, NCAA athletes would have five full years of eligibility from the time of their 19th birthday or their high school graduation, whichever is earliest,” Dellenger wrote. “No waiver requests, redshirts or exceptions will be permitted, except for a small group of outliers (those on maternity leave, military service or religious missions).
I kind of agree but also think the NCAA needs to quit waiting for the govt to bail them out. They could make players employees tomorrow or contract labor and impose all the employment regulations they want. Again, the NCAA is being greedy and refusing to negotiate. Just like it’s done for 40 years and why we are sitting here today. The bottom line is they have no right to limit earning potential of persons whom are legal students of their university but not employees. The NCAA could fix this tomorrow and are choosing to play chicken. Again.
Yes, but with that likely comes a collective bargaining agreement and player's union. These bozos can't organize their closet.
They’d just have to have representation. A former player and attorneys could represent the students. That’s if the unionized which would be tough with a revolving door of athletes. If you don’t want that then you’re relying on congress which won’t happen quick and will quickly become a disaster. We all want it fixed. The fastest way is to make them contract employees. Even if congress passes legislation, that won’t be the end. You will still have challenges that aren’t clearly addressed in the legislation and constant challenges. The only real fix is employment.
Its a start, but dont they have that mostly under control aside from some fringe cases? The one we really have to figure out is to stop allowing players to transfer 4 times in 4 years. You get 1 free transfer, and then any transfer after that you have to sit a year. Or, maybe you have to play 2 yesrs before you can transfer. Whatever it is, we have to try and keep some roster continuity and give the midmajors at least a little power to keep their rosters better intact.
Not this easy. Not all states allow public employees to unionize and others, including ours, do not let public employees strike. So that would be a hindrance to declaring the players employees/allowing unionization.
I'm not in favor of 5 years eligibility except for injury in the case that you only play a designated small number of games.
It will not hold up in court.Proposed NCAA rule change would put 5-year eligibility limit on college athletes
A new report indicates that the NCAA is proposing a new rule that would limit college athletes to five years of eligibilty.www.on3.com
If you want to get college sports back under control now that NIL is allowed, you have to let the players unionize. Then they can agree to collective bargaining, which will allow new rules to be put into place.
I really don’t think they will ever make them employees. It just won’t happen. But the ncaa should be working with congress to frame laws.
1. If I were them I’d make it one time transfers period. Unless a coach leaves.
2. cap the money that can be made at one million. No more except for the revenue sharing. That’ll help schools like Kentucky if we can get rid of JMI.
3. 5 years max. No more. You get four years plus one for redshirt like it use to be. No more 8 year losers that should be a cook at rally’s. This also should include your clock starting when you graduate high school. The oldest you should be is 23 when you okay your last game.
4. once you sign a professional contract of any kind you re ineligible period. No g league, no European, etc. I don’t care if you made money or not.
This what the people want. Might now be what the players and agents getting their fees want but this would bring back the game we love and get players who want to play here and not hired guns.
Freshman can't go to the NBA they have to do 2 years of college. You get transfer twice. That should be the rule.
The NBA is the only organization that could implement a rule that limits when a player can enter the NBA. And they can only do that because they have a player's union and collective bargaining.
Thanks for the clarification. By the way do you feel about your new hire?
Would agree with the idea of transfer limit in addition to a hard 5 year rule.
I like a 2 year plan. You cannot transfer until your junior year. No exceptions. Especially now that you’re getting paid.
“Well my coach got fired…”
so what you’re getting paid.
“Well hardship…”
You’re getting paid. Use that money to take care of it.
“it’s my Ma…”
You’re getting paid. Fly her here and put her up in the world class university hospital.
“…and my Pa…”
He was just up here giving the coach the business about how much money you should make and how the team should be designed around you. Buy him a nice apartment near the athletic facility so he doesn’t have to travel so much…YOURE GETTING PAID!
Money changes things folks. I’m not against people getting paid. I’m also not against the entity doing the paying be a little more strict and demanding some things in return.
I like a 2 year plan. You cannot transfer until your junior year. No exceptions. Especially now that you’re getting paid.
“Well my coach got fired…”
so what you’re getting paid.
“Well hardship…”
You’re getting paid. Use that money to take care of it.
“it’s my Ma…”
You’re getting paid. Fly her here and put her up in the world class university hospital.
“…and my Pa…”
He was just up here giving the coach the business about how much money you should make and how the team should be designed around you. Buy him a nice apartment near the athletic facility so he doesn’t have to travel so much…YOURE GETTING PAID!
Money changes things folks. I’m not against people getting paid. I’m also not against the entity doing the paying be a little more strict and demanding some things in return.
Im good with 5 playing years and getting 2 transfers that comes with NO exceptions for additional transfers.
Same i want 4 years tops (barring redshirting/injury) that won't happen. But it's better than the 6-7 years players have gotten after Covid.
Should limit the amount of times one player can transfer. A player jumping to a new team every year is ridiculous.
That, plus playimg 6-7 years post-Covid and NIL has turned the sport into NBA-lite. I don't think you can completely turn back the clock now, ghe sport is changed forever. Mostly interesting equalizer effect among the big 5 conferences. At best limit the chaos that sport has become....
That, plus playimg 6-7 years post-Covid and NIL has turned the sport into NBA-lite. I don't think you can completely turn back the clock now, ghe sport is changed forever. Mostly interesting equalizer effect among the big 5 conferences. At best limit the chaos that sport has become....
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The NCAA needs to move forward with their new proposal as soon as possible. Thus will certainly reduce the complete chaos that we have today.
I like the idea that players unionizing means stricter rules can be applied but is that realistic? Or will that just cause more chaos?
Just to be curious. How does everyone feel about HIGH SCHOOL eligibility rules? They don't change (some states differ but they don't face much scrutiny at least publicly.)
Four Years Model: Most states limit High School sports eligibility to 4 years or 8 semesters and the clock starts in 9th grade whether you play sports or not. Any years played on high school teams prior to entering 9th grade do not count against this clock (IE playing JV or Varsity baseball as a 7th grader).
Age Restriction Model: Most states limit High School sports eligibility to below 19 years old prior to Sept 1 of the new school year. Regardless of grade or situation.
Hardship Model: Per sport, some players can appeal if they missed an entire season due to injury, in a couple states. This would grant them a 5th year but only in a sport they missed the entirety of and not for all sports offered in general.
Transfer Rules: Some states have strict one-time transfer rules that allow a player to be eligible immediately after 1 transfer, but a second transfer can result in loss of a season of eligibility in one or more sports.
Seems like the High School sports associations have stuff figured out. Too bad the NCAA can't just put their foot down and the courts respect it. Can you imagine if High Schools kept holding back kids in middle school until they were 15-16-17 then getting 4 years out of them in Football at 18-19-20-21?
Four Years Model: Most states limit High School sports eligibility to 4 years or 8 semesters and the clock starts in 9th grade whether you play sports or not. Any years played on high school teams prior to entering 9th grade do not count against this clock (IE playing JV or Varsity baseball as a 7th grader).
Age Restriction Model: Most states limit High School sports eligibility to below 19 years old prior to Sept 1 of the new school year. Regardless of grade or situation.
Hardship Model: Per sport, some players can appeal if they missed an entire season due to injury, in a couple states. This would grant them a 5th year but only in a sport they missed the entirety of and not for all sports offered in general.
Transfer Rules: Some states have strict one-time transfer rules that allow a player to be eligible immediately after 1 transfer, but a second transfer can result in loss of a season of eligibility in one or more sports.
Seems like the High School sports associations have stuff figured out. Too bad the NCAA can't just put their foot down and the courts respect it. Can you imagine if High Schools kept holding back kids in middle school until they were 15-16-17 then getting 4 years out of them in Football at 18-19-20-21?
Feel great about him as a coach. I have no idea how he'll do as a recruiter. But Hubert Davis blew so many leads, he was clearly in over his head as a head coach. So if we assemble a good staff with recruiting experience, I'll consider this a major upgrade from the Hubert Davis experience. We just hired Chuck Martin off Calipari's staff. And we just interviewed the lead recruiter from Rutgers that brought in those 2 top 5 recruits (Ace Bailey and Dylan Harper.)