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OAMC99

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I think Taylor will put the 10 guys on the mat who he feels will produce the highest team points at nationals and everything else is secondary. I don't believe he will hold back any current best options for possible better future outcomes. He's all about winning right now.
And this strategy potentially has cost us one national championship already. He has to adapt. Penn State is not just winning titles, they are breaking scoring records every year.
 
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OAMC99

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If he didn’t do what was done, we wouldn’t be where we are.

The recruits he hit on would likely have been elsewhere.
I see that point - Hamiti and Hendrickson winning national championships sparked the excitement and showed what DT can do for your career. Spratley making finals. Fish making AA.

However, I think DT would still have been able to produce a Top-10 team and recruit like he did. He IS that guy. We will never know.
 
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Cowboy1989

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This makes me want to puke. This is my only knock on DT. Not strategically redshirting. The team above, assuming it was a possibility eligibility wise, wins the national championship. Ugh.

Taylor is not trying to win 1 championship, one year, he's trying to win them all. He did exactly what he should have done to hype the program to the moon and get the best recruits in the world to come here. You can't do that by taking a year off and redshirting everybody.
 

chasepollard

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Who cares if you get 2nd or 10th?!? The ONLY thing that matters at Oklahoma State is the National Championship. If any program in any sport can truly say that, it's us. Yes the last two years have been a lot of fun. But we've still been blown out by Penn State. We have to get strategic. Consider the competition. Cael did this and it worked. Wrestlers are crawling to Stillwater to wrestle for DT. They will stay and redshirt. Redshirts can wrestle and get plenty of action nowadays to keep them active, interested, and motivated. One sacrifice year could really set us up for a major run. 2028 is where the window starts!
Sorry, but you are contradictory in the post.

If he would’ve punted in year 1, it changes who is in the room now, the culture put in place and RS years are actually counterproductive to mentality.
 
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Taylor is not trying to win 1 championship, one year, he's trying to win them all. He did exactly what he should have done to hype the program to the moon and get the best recruits in the world to come here. You can't do that by taking a year off and redshirting everybody.
rising tide lifts all ships. If Taylor just keeps building YoY a championship will eventually come
 

643Bsbl

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Anyone trying to tell DT how to handle the team is laughable at this point. DT is light years ahead of us and has produced multiple champs in 2 years and made OSU exciting again he has started a tsunami that will hit PSU at some point just get behind the program and be excited. Let’s FFFFF go
 

vhsalum

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Nov 14, 2002
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Who cares if you get 2nd or 10th?!? The ONLY thing that matters at Oklahoma State is the National Championship. If any program in any sport can truly say that, it's us. Yes the last two years have been a lot of fun. But we've still been blown out by Penn State. We have to get strategic. Consider the competition. Cael did this and it worked. Wrestlers are crawling to Stillwater to wrestle for DT. They will stay and redshirt. Redshirts can wrestle and get plenty of action nowadays to keep them active, interested, and motivated. One sacrifice year could really set us up for a major run. 2028 is where the window starts!
This is idiotic.

Then he would have redshirted ALL of the guys in preparation for 2028. Get real dude.
 

newguy123

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And this strategy potentially has cost us one national championship already.
What? No, man. That's speculation at best. It worked for Penn State in the early 2010s partially because there was no Penn State. Much has changed. There was parity at NCAAs. Post-grads weren't getting paid a living wage to train in a college room. Stud recruits weren't getting promised that same living wage. Minnesota, Iowa, and OSU traded titles for the past many decades. High school students weren't beating world champions. Every match ever wasn't available with a few clicks. Beating them now requires a different strategy.