Could Ware follow the Myles Johnson path
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I think his point is that Myles redshirted his Freshman year and Ware essentially did the same.
No disrespect, but I’m not sure how many times we need to go over this.
That’s not how it works anymore. You no longer develop players as a P5 program, you let the plebs develop them and then you buy them and you play to win now.
You do not run a bench going 11 deep. You play 8, MAYBE 9 guys.
There is no time available for development anymore. Kid shouldn’t see the court once next season tbh.
That’s not how it works anymore. You no longer develop players as a P5 program, you let the plebs develop them and then you buy them and you play to win now.
You do not run a bench going 11 deep. You play 8, MAYBE 9 guys.
There is no time available for development anymore. Kid shouldn’t see the court once next season tbh.
And I'm not sure we would have even gotten Myles if he didn't sit out his senior year with an injury.
Myles had like a 7’5” wingspan. Ware has nowhere near the frame to even start down Myles’ path.
Could Dennis Badalau follow in Michael Jordan’s footsteps? Food for thought . . .
Point being Myles was physically out of shape and needed a year to mature. The little we saw of Ware didn't tell us anything -potentially he could have produced the same level as Dortch.
The mods were talking about how good Myles Johnson looked in practice during his redshirt year. They've said pretty much the opposite about Ware.
Sadly, no. It’s apples and oranges. Ware didn’t redshirt. He burned a year of eligibility meaning Pike had hoped to be able to play him, based on our limited options at center, but couldn’t earn any playing time. We were clearly better off playing Dortch and Buchanan out of position at center otherwise Ware would’ve been in the game for sure.
With Myles, it was completely different. Back then you knew the player would generally be in your program for 4 years, so in some cases it made sense to redshirt centers to get them stronger. There is no way Myles would’ve redshirted as a frosh under the 2025-26 terms and he would’ve 100% played meaningful minutes. Ware not being able to get on the floor is a huge red flag.
Not necessarily.
Fall played 45min, scored 5pts and had 15rebs total across 9 games.
Ware played 37min, scored 2pts and had 3rebs total across 6 games.
Ware may have been the only person on the roster worse than Fall.
Myles was a redshirt freshman. He probably was thinking Ware redshirted too. He didn’t and just burned a year and in limited action, warmups and the one practice I watched he doesn’t appear athletic enough for the Big Ten.
Remember, Myles Johnson came in overweight probably from wasting his time doing way too much studying and other scholarly activities instead of focusing all his time and energy on basketball.
What conf is the 5 in P5? Anyhow, that’s not true. It’s not conference strength based. Rutgers isn’t Michigan. BC isn’t Carolina. Resources dictate philosophy, not conference.
… almost as absurd as equating Ware to Myles Johnson
the things people post on here sometimes just makes me shake my head
Yup - once Ware played in one game his redshirt was burned. The decision not to play him was simply about him not being good enough.
It’s semi true
if you take it on the chin you develop players and take the lumps for that players growth you probably won’t be able to see the rewards because you either lost a lot and lost your job or the player developed well enough to leave for greener pastures
B1G, SEC, ACC, Big 12, Big East…
We have 10 million in NIL. We have resources, and will have even more if we win.
Our media deal by default means we have resources.
We have more NIL this year, $10 mil, but we still may be one of the have nots. Anonymous Big 10 coach says if you don’t have at least $12 mil, then you’re in trouble.
It’s all relative.
Is that a Maryland coach saying that, or is it Michigan?
Rutgers doesn’t need to compete at the top end, it needs to be an average middle of the road B1G program.
10 million is enough to make the NCAAs
It’s an anonymous quote, go ask Joe Tipton if it’s Maryland or Michigan. We may be average but we may not be either, that’s the point. We significantly increased the NIL budget, Carino is even referring to it as a war chest, but if everyone else significantly increased their NIL as well, we may end up right back in the same place we’ve been since NIL has started, behind the curve. We’ll find out how far our money goes and how competitive our NIL budget is for acquisitions based upon the portal players we acquire this year. If we are only shopping in the Merrimack level bin and looking for only players that we recruited in the past when they were in high school, that will be a sign. If our budget is substantial and we have some actual buying power, we need to branch out, get out of Pike’s comfort zone, and pay up for quality, experienced talent and maybe at least one guy from a quality power program.
Unless Lino and J Mike are out the door too - a 30% three point shooting 6-2 guard from Merrimack makes no sense at all. What is Pike thinking? He was already burned once with the massive learning curve for Jordan on switching from zone to man.
Listen - if your going to target a PG it needs to be someone 6-4 who is 100% going to be better than the guys we have. (Like DJ Wagner level). The Toledo guard shot over 40% from 3 as a frosh so okay fine. Maybe. These other guys we’re looking at don’t make any sense unless 2 of Lino, J Mike and Tariq are leaving. And for those who like crapping on J Mike, no, you don’t actually know that in the MAAC he couldn’t put up numbers like Kennedy’s. The level of play is massively different.
Don't think DJ is 6'4 or better than what we have, agree w every thing else. In case you were wondering what I thought! Ha.
I haven’t really watched him to be honest. but he was the number 1 recruit in the country at one point, right? The point I was making is that if we’re going to add a guard despite keeping 3-4 of the ones we have, the one we pick should provide clear things we don’t get from the others. At least one thing from the below list:
1) Taller ball handler
2) lights out volume perimeter shooting
3) lock down D (not in a zone since we learned from Jordan it takes too long to translate)
Since we’re shopping low majors, assists don’t mean anything. All 3 of the guards we have would have more of those in the MAAC on a team with decent relative support.
It matters who it came from because it’s a different perspective. A Michigan coach would be saying you’re cooked if you don’t have 12 million because you can’t compete wit the elite. A Maryland coach saying it would mean without 12 mill you’re going to end up bottom of the barrel.
It’s certainly not a war chest, Carino I’m sure is a good dude and I appreciate his coverage, but the guy has horrible takes.
people just take this stuff and run with it, I agree with the thought let’s see how this shakes out and where the money goes.
Beyond that, most of this still is going to come down to coaches and fit of a player into their philosophy. I’m not going to get excited over a 3 point shooter that requires an offense to run screens for him, because that’s not what we do.