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CowboyMedic

Heisman
Feb 5, 2009
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I watched one of the Raneys wrestle Jax Forest at the Who's # 1. Man that was an exciting match with both guys throwing everything but the kitchen sink. I understand they both wrestle that way. I think it was Jordan.
From few years ago. Forrest dominated the match then Raney stuck him.

 

OHkie

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Looking over the fence, OU had 6 guys jump in, seems to be a trend in overall lack of development. They had 2 guys last year that ended up at OCU and finished as NAIA runners up.
 
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bwel9339

All-Conference
Jul 14, 2005
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I’ll be honest. I hate OU but I don’t hate OU wrestling. I watch their duals. I cheer for their wrestlers (unless they are wrestling us). I want them to get better. Honestly, I feel sorry for their wrestlers because of the lack of interest of their fans and athletic department. They deserve more support. They need to be better to help improve the Big 12. We need all the other schools in this conference to be better against the BIG, especially now that we only have 9 teams in the conference.
 

FourCornersCowboy

All-Conference
Nov 3, 2006
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I’ll be honest. I hate OU but I don’t hate OU wrestling. I watch their duals. I cheer for their wrestlers (unless they are wrestling us). I want them to get better. Honestly, I feel sorry for their wrestlers because of the lack of interest of their fans and athletic department. They deserve more support. They need to be better to help improve the Big 12. We need all the other schools in this conference to be better against the BIG, especially now that we only have 9 teams in the conference.
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DocVdog

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You do realize he only lost two the last two national champs?

You just also realize 125 is probably the most paired weight of the ten. There were about a dozen guys who had AAd or had planted themselves in that tier be beating multiple AAs?

Facundo, I think he needs to be at 65.
Maybe sprat had plateaued, which does happen with most college wrestlers. He is not as exciting as he once was. I realize, not every wrestler can wrestle like Jax but, Sprat did beat Jax and Bo a couple of years ago, with his super aggressive and unpredictable style. yes, they were younger high schoolers then, but they were already beating college age wrestlers. Could be that the safe, smart wrestling is a boring as H€ll.
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DocVdog

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I would definitely not compare Spratley to Facundo. Sparkey lost to last year's national champion (had to wrestle him twice) and this year's national champion at the tournament. Facundo was the worst performing wrestler on the team in my opinion at the tournament, given who he wrestled. He performed poorly at penn state at the national tournament when he wrestled there as well. I would be looking at that weight if I were Taylor.
Fair points.
 
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chasepollard

Heisman
Nov 25, 2005
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Maybe sprat had plateaued, which does happen with most college wrestlers. He is not as exciting as he once was. I realize, not every wrestler can wrestle like Jax but, Sprat did beat Jax and Bo a couple of years ago, with his super aggressive and unpredictable style. yes, they were younger high schoolers then, but they were already beating college age wrestlers. Could be that the safe, smart wrestling is a boring as H€ll.
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Name me an exciting 125.

The finals were won on a stall call. As a weight, it had the lowest bonus % of all weights.

Also, Troy is now a senior. Lots of homework can be done on him by his opponents.
 
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Name me an exciting 125.

The finals were won on a stall call. As a weight, it had the lowest bonus % of all weights.

Also, Troy is now a senior. Lots of homework can be done on him by his opponents.
Somebody in wrestling talked about the 5 worst portal deals in the last 3 years and we have had lots of good moves but we were the worst which did not surprise me. I have thought if I gave Oklahoma State a lot of money to get Figueroa, I would be upset. That is bad when you run out of gas after 2 minutes of wrestling.
 

alephpoke

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May 16, 2023
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Maybe sprat had plateaued, which does happen with most college wrestlers. He is not as exciting as he once was. I realize, not every wrestler can wrestle like Jax but, Sprat did beat Jax and Bo a couple of years ago, with his super aggressive and unpredictable style. yes, they were younger high schoolers then, but they were already beating college age wrestlers. Could be that the safe, smart wrestling is a boring as H€ll.
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I’m not sure what you mean by him not being as exciting as before, his style has hardly changed at all. If anything, he took a leap in his offense from freshman to sophomore year while this year was more or less the same as last year.

I think you just have a different picture in your mind that must be based solely on his Bo/Jax matches—two of the wildest/most aggressive wrestlers out there which is obviously going to make those matches more exciting. Not to mention the matches were in freestyle which in general has more action in neutral
 

GrappleNtackle

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Oct 20, 2009
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Somebody in wrestling talked about the 5 worst portal deals in the last 3 years and we have had lots of good moves but we were the worst which did not surprise me. I have thought if I gave Oklahoma State a lot of money to get Figueroa, I would be upset. That is bad when you run out of gas after 2 minutes of wrestling.
Pretty wild how Fig not panning out played a part in allowing OSU fans to watch Jax win a natty a year early.
 

OHkie

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Are roster limits a thing? Not sure it means anything in Stillwater, but Dreshaun has an older brother Damarion that is in the portal at 184.
 
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newguy123

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Feb 5, 2020
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Somebody in wrestling talked about the 5 worst portal deals in the last 3 years and we have had lots of good moves but we were the worst which did not surprise me. I have thought if I gave Oklahoma State a lot of money to get Figueroa, I would be upset. That is bad when you run out of gas after 2 minutes of wrestling.
I mean if you're singling out Figs as the worst singular transfer in terms of placement expectations (former NCAA champ --> can't finish a match) then sure maybe that's the "worst deal" but we don't know the details and he's far from the only person that transferred and underperformed.

On the whole though remember Hamiti and Hendrickson won titles! Ryder AA'ed, Fish AA'ed, Swid AA'ed, Cam AA'ed, Facundo didn't score a lot at the tournament but did well during the regular season, Figs was a bust. All in all I call that a pretty big win overall.
 

proud2bpokes

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Feb 17, 2002
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@Corby2 posted on another site of a rumor of Lorenzo Norman to PSU. He also said it didn't make much sense, because.... if that turned out to be true, PSU would have at 174 and 184:

174 Lorenzo Norman - Junior
174 William Henckel - Redshirt Freshman
174/184 - Asher Cunningham - Redshirt Freshman
174/184 - Jayden James - Freshman
184 - Rocco Welsh - Junior
 

Howie_Fartz

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@Corby2 posted on another site of a rumor of Lorenzo Norman to PSU. He also said it didn't make much sense, because.... if that turned out to be true, PSU would have at 174 and 184:

174 Lorenzo Norman - Junior
174 William Henckel - Redshirt Freshman
174/184 - Asher Cunningham - Redshirt Freshman
174/184 - Jayden James - Freshman
184 - Rocco Welsh - Junior
If you dont think psu is in the business of getting guys so that others (us) dont, youre wrong.
 

SlickWillie18

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It’s been a little surprising to not see OSU reported as hosting or contacting any portal guys thus far. I would take that to mean:

1. Any contact has yet to be reported

2. The staff is content with who they have in the room/coming in, even at 174 & 184, or

3. They are waiting to see what the secondary round of portal entries brings. Guys who hit the portal because their “replacement” was brought in à la Ryder at PSU.
 

Air_Thurman

Heisman
Jan 16, 2003
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@Corby2 posted on another site of a rumor of Lorenzo Norman to PSU. He also said it didn't make much sense, because.... if that turned out to be true, PSU would have at 174 and 184:

174 Lorenzo Norman - Junior
174 William Henckel - Redshirt Freshman
174/184 - Asher Cunningham - Redshirt Freshman
174/184 - Jayden James - Freshman
184 - Rocco Welsh - Junior
If Norman ends up at PSU I would be on the phone with Jayden until he filed a restraining order against me.
 

Dvten25

Heisman
Dec 28, 2011
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How long do the have to jump in the portal? I’m assuming this is the only time they can jump in and transfer for next year.