I just feel it's disrespectful. Keyboard **** talk that probably (hopefully) wouldn't be made face to face.
It's not to the point the I want punch you, but if I did it wouldn't be trying it would just happen...
President to Sign Executive Order on College Sports - Changing transfer and redshirt rules
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It's not to the point the I want punch you, but if I did it wouldn't be trying it would just happen...
Succinct, but also insulting, as though the other person isn't worth an explanation. As long-time cesspool posters, you're both worth explaining things. Please don't make me regret respecting you both.
Also, punching you in the face gets us where? Threatening injury on this board is mostly a nonstarter, at least to former wrestlers. This isn't the chess or cheerleading team board. However if my son-in-law hurts my daughter, I WILL break his legs, even if I have to hire someone else to do it. So I guess I'm not above stuff like this.
Fair enough. I'm just not above childish and immature responses. Always willing to talk it out though.Succinct, but also insulting, as though the other person isn't worth an explanation. As long-time cesspool posters, you're both worth explaining things. Please don't make me regret respecting you both.
Also, punching you in the face gets us where? Threatening injury on this board is mostly a nonstarter, at least to former wrestlers. This isn't the chess or cheerleading team board. However if my son-in-law hurts my daughter, I WILL break his legs, even if I have to hire someone else to do it. So I guess I'm not above stuff like this.
And yeah. I get what you mean - my daughters are off limits. Whether it's myself, my son or a generation's worth of former wrestlers who've wrestled for me and see them as family, you're not getting away without physical harm.
Eh. It's the cesspool. And trust me, i would DEFINITELY say it to your or anyone's face. ESPECIALLY if we're buddies. Consequence of my childhood i guess. Being able to insult someone doesn't necessarily mean physical confrontation. Especially something as inane as "ok boomer" - not exactly calling someone's significant other a C U Next Tuesday.
We're gonna talk after, but name calling is just good conversation. I'd expect the same in return.
Courts will Stay this in blink-of-eye, see Alston v NCAA; Supreme Court decision was unanimous. This E/O in violation of every anitrust court decision in the history of mankind. Trump simply trying to bully NCAA (membership) to benefit of a small group of MAGA supporters. A free-market is best solution for NCAA's current dilemma, laissez-faire capitalism.
We've never have had laissez-faire capitalism. There's always forces (private, governmental, or special interest) that warp the market for some temporary group's advantage, and the wheels of consequence can spin very slowly. Free-market alone might help solve some football and basketball, issues, but I'm not so sure that it helps wrestling.as much.
Athletes should be able to transfer just like any student. However, educational institutions should also have the right to determine if the athlete needs to sit out a year. Difference between academics and athletics is one is educational and one is extracurricular.
Trump is trying to initiate a system where the schools set and enforce the rules not the NCAA. Educational institutions should have a right to set to set extra curricular regulations.
I get your post and I really enjoy reading them. I would say the difference is that athletics has reached a point where if it is allowed to continue in the way it is going, it could destroy a lot of things. Mid majors are taking a beating and that is not the intent of college athletics.
Lets think of it this way. You have a river and it flows along smoothly. We could argue that every molecule of the river has a right to flow freely.
Now let's say there is another river and it is raging out of control. We should not use the same argument that each molecule of that river gets to flow freely, because it will destroy things with flooding. (college athletics) That river needs levies and dams and other man made obstacles (laws) to control is so it does not wipe out towns, sweep people away and kill them, destroy crops or houses etc. College athletics is out of control and raging. It needs some laws to control it or the mid majors and olympic sports are going to get destroyed.
The NCAA seems to be unable to control the river and as I said earlier - it is a shame that the president had to step in with an Executive Order (but I am glad he did). Let's see if it holds and is enough.
I think you are absolutely correct that if the NCAA had made some common sense NIL rules 30 years ago, we would not be in this mess. Or we would have been in this mess a long time ago and they would have corrected it by now.
I agree that the spirit of NIL is good. Allow kids to make money, especially those who need it. The kid on 1/4 scholarship is not gaming the system or being part of the destruction of athletics for mid majors. Unfortunately, as is the case in so many things - a handful of people ruin it for the rest of us.
Is it face punch worthy to ask for pics of said daughters?
Well.. considering one of them is 10... yeah.Is it face punch worthy to ask for pics of said daughters?
LOL
Change is inevitable right, but nice to have some guardrails in place before the train jumps those tracks directly into the river.
But we're dealing with "scholars" here, common sense isn't going to see the light of day. So......good luck I guess.
The wives? That's okay. The daughters? Grrrrrrrrr.Is it face punch worthy to ask for pics of said daughters?
Agree. I believe reforming transfer eligibility will go a long way in bringing stability to college sports.
Bring back the “one transfer” rule under a framework which will withstand constitutional challenge. No “hardship” exceptions because such allowances tend to be arbitrary and capricious. The only transfer exception I would favor that makes sense is a transfer to a lower division school.
10 years old? I might punch myself in the face for asking.
Well. And the “extracurricular” brings in billions to institutions and the NCAA….its too much power formerly granted to the schools. I’m not saying there shouldn’t be guardrails. The transfer rules should be treated liberally in favor of the athlete. If they get poached there should b some compensation frim the receiving school.
Should Herrera at ISU have to be graced by a release from them or one and done transfer after they brought in another heavy?
simple,,,the NCAA as a third party was deemed to not have the authority, however, an educational institution can govern itself. lawyers and activist judges will still try to initiate policy…we will see.
Correct. My intended inference was 'hands off' intercollegiate athletics. Seems the first order of business should be, 'define the problem'. Read literally this e/o is a minefield of legal issues, there is no linear-logic here. A reasonable approach to managing the impenetrable maze of NCAA problems is collective bargaing.
Collective bargaining is the third rail to the NCAA. They would need to go back on everything they have successfully defended in court before that could happen.
No, he's trying to initiate a system where donors tell the schools what to do, as these donors don't want to have to compete ($$$) for athletes. When competition is artificially limited, costs are driven down. Ironically, those same donors are HIS donors. Do you think he came up with the idea on his own? SEC donors are sad that they aren't winning any more.
A school isn't "governing itself" if "policy" is being dictated by the executive branch with the threat of funding being pulled hanging over their heads. Also, the EO could be reversed in three years.
Why is the government getting involved in restricting competition for the services of college athletes? How is that the purview of the United States?