@fatpiggy - is this the kind of fraud you want to get rid of?

Rastafarian said:

He’s Not Grifting Anymore. He’s Just Taking It.

Guest article by Dina Doll

www.meidasplus.com

The State Department transferred $1.25 billion in foreign aid to Trump’s Board of Peace, pulling $1 billion from international disaster assistance, $200 million from peacekeeping operations, and $50 million from international organizations. Money that Congress authorized for hurricanes and refugees, moved without a congressional vote, into a fund that Trump created by executive order and controls personally.

filed a $10 billion lawsuit against the IRS over the leak of his tax records by a contractor. The problem, beyond the absurdity of the number, is that Trump controls the government he is suing. He confirmed it himself: “I’m supposed to work out a settlement with myself.” The DOJ attorneys who would defend against this lawsuit serve at his pleasure. Bondi is literally the only thing protecting the American people from Trump’s attempt to steal billions of our hard-earned money.

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here's the thing about your posts...

first of all "reprogramming" funds from one account or line is not illegal. It happens all the time. But, you're right, it does require permission from the Congress. It's not fraud, as such, it's justat it's face, illegal. I would dhave thought though that given our environment, if Trump as doing anything beyond the line of the law, democrats would have been all over it. So, absent that, that might lead me to think there's more to this

Next, release of tax records is illegal, and we know somebody released/leaked Trump's returns because Rachel Madow had them on MSNBC. So, Trump is a citizen who is entitled to redress for this unlawful activity. So no fraud there. Now, is a good look from a taxpayer's perspective ...Hell No. He's already got $$billions, does he need more? If I were him, I wouldn't do this. But, if I were him I wouldn't do a lot of things he does.

baltimorened said:

here's the thing about your posts...

first of all "reprogramming" funds from one account or line is not illegal. It happens all the time. But, you're right, it does require permission from the Congress. It's not fraud, as such, it's justat it's face, illegal. I would dhave thought though that given our environment, if Trump as doing anything beyond the line of the law, democrats would have been all over it. So, absent that, that might lead me to think there's more to this

Next, release of tax records is illegal, and we know somebody released/leaked Trump's returns because Rachel Madow had them on MSNBC. So, Trump is a citizen who is entitled to redress for this unlawful activity. So no fraud there. Now, is a good look from a taxpayer's perspective ...Hell No. He's already got $$billions, does he need more? If I were him, I wouldn't do this. But, if I were him I wouldn't do a lot of things he does.

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Damn Ned he does something wrong just about every single day but unless you haven't noticed, Democrats hold very little power to even issue subpoenas without Republican approval, so it's laughable for you to posit that he must not be bad because Democrats haven't done anything to stop him. And we know the feckless, subservient Republicans won't do a damn thing because they fear his little Twitter thumbs will destroy their careers more than they care about our country or doing the right thing.

I can't wrap my head around how you act like he's normal and can't see that he's clinically insane and an obscenely corrupt force the likes we've never seen and he does it blatantly and openly because he knows no one will stop him. The man needs to be taken out, period, and not defended as if he's normal and righteous.

See my comments in red type.

baltimorened said:

first of all "reprogramming" funds from one account or line is not illegal. It happens "Reprogramming." So that's what it is called? I thought that funds appropriated by Congress for a specific program or purpose were supposed to be used for that specific program or purpose. Silly me. all the time. But, you're right, it does require permission from the Congress. It's not fraud, as such, it's justat it's face, illegal. I would dhave thought though that given our environment, if Trump as doing anything beyond the line of the law, democrats would have been all over it. So, absent that, that might lead me to think there's more to this Democrats are in the minority in both chambers of Congress. What, exactly, are the Democrats supposed to do about this, other than bring it to the attention of the press or file a lawsuit, given that Republicans in Congress have shown they are unwilling to exercise ANY oversight at all?!! And if you disagree with my comment about GOP oversight in Congress, please let me know what Congressional Republicans are doing about Trump's plans to commit war crimes on Tuesday. November cannot come soon enough..

Next, release of tax records is illegal, and we know somebody released/leaked Trump's returns because Rachel Madow had them on MSNBC. So, Trump is a citizen who is entitled to redress for this unlawful activity. So no fraud there. Now, is a good look from a taxpayer's perspective ...Hell No. He's already got $$billions, does he need more? If I were him, I wouldn't do this. But, if I were him I wouldn't do a lot of things he does. "If I were him, I wouldn't do this." That's some pretty serious criticism there, Ned. LOL.

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Ai:

This is classic opinion journalism from a strongly partisan source (MeidasTouch has a history of hyperbolic anti-Trump content). While some elements appear rooted in real or reported events, the article heavily spins them into a narrative of outright criminal “theft” without strong evidence of illegality or personal diversion of funds. Here’s a breakdown:



I’ll pass on the article. Thanks for the tag through

fatpiggy said:

Ai:

This is classic opinion journalism from a strongly partisan source (MeidasTouch has a history of hyperbolic anti-Trump content). While some elements appear rooted in real or reported events, the article heavily spins them into a narrative of outright criminal “theft” without strong evidence of illegality or personal diversion of funds. Here’s a breakdown:



I’ll pass on the article. Thanks for the tag through

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LOL, Meidas Touch can't be trusted so let me tell you what Catturd has to say.

dpic73 said:

Damn Ned he does something wrong just about every single day but unless you haven't noticed, Democrats hold very little power to even issue subpoenas without Republican approval, so it's laughable for you to posit that he must not be bad because Democrats haven't done anything to stop him. And we know the feckless, subservient Republicans won't do a damn thing because they fear his little Twitter thumbs will destroy their careers more than they care about our country or doing the right thing.

I can't wrap my head around how you act like he's normal and can't see that he's clinically insane and an obscenely corrupt force the likes we've never seen and he does it blatantly and openly because he knows no one will stop him. The man needs to be taken out, period, and not defended as if he's normal and righteous.

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I was referring to the courts. Democrats have shown their willingness to sue the federal government, but they haven't in this case.

TBH, I'm really not qualified to determine if anybody is "clinically insane". What's normal in our current environment? closing the government, carrying $trillion deficits, chanting communist slogans in American streets, stealing $billions from the government? Seems to me just declaring trump as being "not normal" is kind of selective thinking. In fact, based on actions of some past presidents, I think trump - on some issues - is really not normal, but not in the way you might think or want.

LafayetteBear said:

See my comments in red type.

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boy bear, you really need to bone up on your "Congress". Yes reprogramming is exactly what it's called, and as I posted it happens all the time. Some program or activity needs more money than what was appropriated, or some might have to much, or some might not be able to spend before it expires, the agency goes to Congress and asks for the money to be reprogrammed...and it normally is approved. what waste appropriated money? This might surprise you, but sometimes Congress doesn't get the funding on $$million/billion programs exactly right. Equate it to the California high speed rail which was to cost $$ billion. What can democrats do? You listed it, if it's illegal file suit.

How much would you like me to criticize.."If he doesn't back off this ludicrous suit, I'll hold my breath until I turn blue". How's that?
If he's legally allowed to sue the government, then what can I, or even you do about it? Serenity now!!!!

baltimorened said:

I was referring to the courts. Democrats have shown their willingness to sue the federal government, but they haven't in this case.

TBH, I'm really not qualified to determine if anybody is "clinically insane". What's normal in our current environment? closing the government, carrying $trillion deficits, chanting communist slogans in American streets, stealing $billions from the government? Seems to me just declaring trump as being "not normal" is kind of selective thinking. In fact, based on actions of some past presidents, I think trump - on some issues - is really not normal, but not in the way you might think or want.

boy bear, you really need to bone up on your "Congress". Yes reprogramming is exactly what it's called, and as I posted it happens all the time. Some program or activity needs more money than what was appropriated, or some might have to much, or some might not be able to spend before it expires, the agency goes to Congress and asks for the money to be reprogrammed...and it normally is approved. what waste appropriated money? This might surprise you, but sometimes Congress doesn't get the funding on $$million/billion programs exactly right. Equate it to the California high speed rail which was to cost $$ billion. What can democrats do? You listed it, if it's illegal file suit.

How much would you like me to criticize.."If he doesn't back off this ludicrous suit, I'll hold my breath until I turn blue". How's that?
If he's legally allowed to sue the government, then what can I, or even you do about it? Serenity now!!!!

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It's scary that his sociopathy has become so normalized that some of us can't even recognize it anymore.

This highly respected medical doctor sees it clearly- really sad that a large part of our population completely overlooks it because they hate libs more than they love our country. The lower life forms on this board prove it every day by bombarding the board and laughing hysterically whenever he insults someone on the left. That matters more to them than our country's well-being and it's sad.

Dr. Vin Gupta
Lung MD | Senior Medical Analyst @MSNOWNews
| Maj @USAirForce | @CFR_org @LungAssociation

dpic73 said:

It's scary that his sociopathy has become so normalized that some of us can't even recognize it anymore.

This highly respected medical doctor sees it clearly- really sad that a large part of our population completely overlooks it because they hate libs more than they love our country. The lower life forms on this board prove it every day by bombarding the board and laughing hysterically whenever he insults someone on the left. That matters more to them than our country's well-being and it's sad.

Dr. Vin Gupta
Lung MD | Senior Medical Analyst @MSNOWNews
| Maj @USAirForce | @CFR_org @LungAssociation

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so, dpic, is this any different that the first term? Seems as if people were making similar comments back then.

I wonder if this doctor has ever met or spoken with trump? So at the impeachment trial, let's call him as a witness: ever met trump...no; ever spoken with trump...no; ever tested trump for dementia ...no; ever given trump a cognitive test...no; Senator Schiff, see, guilty as charged.

baltimorened said:

so, dpic, is this any different that the first term? Seems as if people were making similar comments back then.

I wonder if this doctor has ever met or spoken with trump? So at the impeachment trial, let's call him as a witness: ever met trump...no; ever spoken with trump...no; ever tested trump for dementia ...no; ever given trump a cognitive test...no; Senator Schiff, see, guilty as charged.

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Well Ned, that's the problem, he clearly and unequivocally proved in his first term that he was a sociopath - have you already forgotten how it ended?

That's why there were countless warnings from generals, people who had worked in the administration and books written by countless authors to flash the warning signs that if he was allowed to run again, it would lead to catastrophe.

That's why he was impeached twice and prosecuted for his many crimes because we knew that if he were re-elected, it would lead to catastrophe.

That's why his own lawyer and many of his most ardent supporters agree that he's totally lost it because he's insane.

These were people who knew him well since you're asking but you wouldn't listen.

That's why we've been shouting from the rooftops for four years because we knew if he was re-elected without another election to worry about and with a a loyal, disreputable team around him to manipulate, he would do irreputable damage to our country and we would never be the same. We see that playing out now.

And no matter what you knew about him, heard about him and witnessed with your own eyes, you decided that none of it was a deal breaker. Now he's tweeting foul-mouth posts about committing war crimes, we're losing all of our allies and our country is going bankrupt while he abuses power to make his family obscenely rich.

This country is fvkked but it's not like you weren't warned so now we'll all have to go down with this ship that we warned you wasn't sea-worthy. That's why the rest of us will never understand.














He has absolutely lost me, in fact I'm eyeing the 25th amendment for him because he's lost his damn mind.