This is college basketball for now. Olivia M left ND. The coaches can play it perfectly and players are going to leave. You hopefully can count on getting 2 years out of players, anything more is icing
Lanie Grant transfer portal
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Olivia Miles stated that she left ND for two reasons and it was not about the money because she would have been the number 2 pick last year. She clearly said that she wanted to go to a team where she could fully showcase her talent all the way around. Her second reason was she had kind of lost the joy of playing. If I had to guess. HH came in and took the ACC by storm as well as ND. Remember Miles was still hurt and she could not play yet. When she got back, HH has already put her mark on the team and I do not think when you have to Alphas on the team one of them finds it kind of hard to take a back seat to the other. Both of these players are WNBA talent. HH was bringing the heat and putting pressure on the veterans. This goes back to what a poster had said about fearing the competition.
You think Olivia Miles did not get paid a ton of money at TCU?
ND had well documented locker-room issues, no doubt. the vast majority of the team left. But Olivia Miles got paid. both can be true at the same time.
I would bet a lot that she got paid at least twice as much at TCU as her WNBA rookie salary. Probably more like 4X or 5x. And even smarter, she waited until the WNBA's new CBA more than tripled the salary cap. I bet she goes this year. And her agent earned his/her commission by waiting.
Just didn't think LG would ever leave UNC. I could see everybody on the team leaving before I saw LG leaving.
Oh well. Don’t let the door hit you…
I’m here to support Carolina women’s basketball. Regardless of the reason, if you choose not to be a part of that then…
Hot take, and some/most may disagree but I have one pro franchise that I follow (the Padres) but am not the biggest baseball fan. However, I eagerly follow all Tar Heel sports and am partial to those that want to be here.
I’m here to support Carolina women’s basketball. Regardless of the reason, if you choose not to be a part of that then…
Hot take, and some/most may disagree but I have one pro franchise that I follow (the Padres) but am not the biggest baseball fan. However, I eagerly follow all Tar Heel sports and am partial to those that want to be here.
3397Char I agree with you but this is what OM said in an interview that was done. I am stating what came out of her mouth. Also, she could have made more money going to the WNBA by being the number 2 pick and with all the endorsements she would have gotten thanks to CC and AR she would have made more money than what TCU paid her this year. So as she said it was not about the money. Paige made more with the commercials and endorsements she got. OM would have done the same. This year with the new CBA in the W, players are going to make way more money than what NIL money can give which I for one will say it is a long time overdue and I am glad that they are finally going to get paid like other professional sports.
Apparently we were the ones that got fooled!
This is just not factual.
the rookie salary cap in the WNBA last year was under $100K. The going rate for a college basketball player of her caliber is well over $500K. How much over? We do not know; these are private deals. Aliyah Chavez was reportedly paid $1 million, plus endorsements.
Here are the estimated breakdowns:
A quick internet search finds media Reports that indicate she is making roughly $930,000 more by staying in college for the 2025–26 season than she would have earned as a top WNBA rookie ($78,000 plus endorsements)
She has signed a "groundbreaking" marketing deal with Unrivaled and has had partnerships with brands like Stackwell Capital, Playa Society, and Hello Gorgeous! So she clearly has access to endorsements in college similar to what she would get in the pros. Better or worse? Who knows. But college gets her more generous deals from companies with an affinity for TCU.
Miles has noted that a significant portion of her income comes from a collective deal, which provides steady payments with fewer active requirements than traditional brand endorsements. This is money she could NOT have earned in the W; it is tied to TCU.
Miles' decision to stay in school was a strategic financial move tied to the WNBA's new Collective Bargaining Agreement (CBA).
Increased Pro Salary: By waiting until the 2026 WNBA Draft, she is expected to enter the league under a new salary scale where the #1 pick's base salary could jump from ~$78,000 to approximately $500,000. You multiply that 3X because it is a three year deal.
so while we do not know the actual numbers the delta here is great enough that we can say college pays significantly more for her, this year specifically, and positions her to make more over the next 2-3 years in the pros.
when she left ND, perhaps it was more than just the money. But we she signed at TCU, that was about the money. It is a team of NIL mercenaries.
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Probably no UVA for Lanie since Mox just got fired
This aritcle gives more insight into what happened.
Virginia women's basketball program had grown 'toxic' under Coach Mox - Jerry Ratcliffe
Virginia women’s basketball coach Amaka Agugua-Hamilton will not be returning to the program after four years on the job.
jerryratcliffe.com
I know the article says it was toxic tarboy but if that was true then players should have been hitting the portal every year. We saw what just happened at Tennessee and Iowa State. So with that in mind, there should have been numerous players hitting the portal. Thanks tarboy for posting this.
UVA had 7 players transfer out last year and 4 the year before that.
I dont watch every game but watch more after nfl season on Sunday afternoon.
Her playing time was inconsistent and I thought she might be mad. I hate it.
My buddy from central NC moved to Richmond years ago and his son graduated hs w her.
Her playing time was inconsistent and I thought she might be mad. I hate it.
My buddy from central NC moved to Richmond years ago and his son graduated hs w her.
From my understanding, it was more toxic to staff and administrators- alot of them left or were released I believe.
Grant lead our team in minutes per game. It was not playing time that pushed her to the portal.
We offered her the same NIL money as last year. She thought she deserved more. It is that simple.
Unless we overpaid her last year that’s a tough offer for someone who was consistently one of your best players.
I’ll say this. Currently there is no true market value established for players. As a result you have a huge spectrum of numbers being thrown at players by interested schools or their current school and 18-22 year old athletes going into meetings with a number in their head (rational or not). Imagine a public school teacher going into a meeting with the principal asking for $200,000. In no state is that the market value for a public school teacher (honestly it should be but that’s a different story). That’s what’s happening right now in College athletics.
It is worth noting that at this time last season all of the P4 was emptying out their booster collectives in preparation for the House v. NCAA settlement that banned booster collectives in favor of rev share. It was widely believed that this spiked NIL across the landscape and likely trickled down to WBB for at least some schools. That was a one-time spike, in theory.
The money pool is a little different this year: UNC as an example has $250K in "revenue share: that comes directly from the athletic department, and an unknown amount of "NIL" that still comes from boosters, but it has to come from boosters who own/run businesses that can disguise the pay-for-play as legit business deals. I think, but do not know, that this will restrict money to some degree at many schools.
The overall point being that the "salary cap" for each school this season may be pretty flat or a bit down this year. I cant prove that, it just seems logical. and convincing players/agents that this is the reality of the market may be easier said than done. The only way athletes can know for sure is to play the open market.
IMO, LG was not an elite player as I keep stating. She is a very good college level player. The same as AU. The article by RL stated that Laney could not create her own shot when guarded by elite defenders. Case and point, when we played UCONN Fudd had her locked down. There will other games where that happened as well. I realized that she wanted more NIL money, but there were some weaknesses in her game. She also had problems defended the opposing teams elite players. So, I can see why CB offered her the same amount as last year. I would have done the same. Then you have to factor in her NIL agent if she has one. Sometimes the agent can get into a player's head and tell them what they want to hear and say that they should get paid more money but in actually, the agent is looking out for themselves and they are trying to get a bigger percentage of the NIL money. We all know that nothing is done for free anymore. We will be fine without LG. There is too much talent in the portal and everyone can be replaced bottom line. We all know this fact if you work on a regular job. Everyone is replaceable. Go Heels!