Kiss Oats Goodbye. Thanks MITCH!

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I wonder what UK fans would be saying if Oats was our coach and was trying to bring a guy in that played pro ball for 2 years?

What would UK fans say if a UK player was at the scene of a murder and had a handgun in his backseat, and the UK coach played him?
 
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bbnkat02

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Nate Oats isn't leaving the state of Alabama, especially 2 years ago

He just got divorced, and had multiple kids under 18


He would hardly ever see his kids if he leaves the city where their mom lives
This. And he’s now engaged to an Alabama staffer (which is a bit..questionable). He was never coming here so people can stop stamping their feet.

Keep telling ya, with NIL we don’t have the dominant pull we used to.

Mitch absolutely still sucks though.
 

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Well at least this should dispel the myth that he isnt that good of a coach. Just got paid big time at a football school. Guess a FF, EE and S16 over the last 3 years is pretty good after all.
 

BBNinSCar

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Nate Oats has made exactly one Final Foul with Alabama. He made the S16 this year. We have half the board saying Pope had a ****** season his first year when he made the S16.
Nate Oats has made the only Final Four in Alabama history. He is a special talent as a coach, IMO. I think he would win big at a place that cared about basketball.
 

bbnkat02

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To be fair, that just came out this month in a radio interview where he said he was engaged, to a former Alabama staffer of all things. They kept that divorce secret and on wraps for 3 years !!! that's why everybody said it was rumor because it couldn't be proven true and Nate himself never said anything about it.
Which is just weird as crap. That’s shady behavior.

He may be an ok coach but that’s just a dude I wouldn’t trust with a butter knife.
 

bbnkat02

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Fred Hoiber
TJ Otzelberger
Sean Miller
Ben McCollum
Mark Byington
Bruce Pearl
Josh Scertz
Will Wade
Jai Lucas

I asked AI to list to 40 active coaches... Surprisingly it put Mark Pope 32nd
All possible coaches listed above ranked hired, except Jai Lucas which is your young risky risky pick gamble if you want to go that route.
Hell no to Wade and Miller. Wade wasn’t that impressive at NC State. AND he proved as soon as he sees something better he will run. So no. Screw that dude. And Sean Miller was under literal FBI investigation and let’s be honest should’ve been in jail. His assistant fell on the sword.

Otz would be good. But he’s either being courted by UNC or turned them down completely. So if he’s turned that blue blood down what’s our pitch?

Pearl doesn’t seem to be itching to get back to coaching with other jobs open.

So that leaves you a guy like Byington or McCollum. Both of which are somemwhat unproven with McC having a bit more of a track record in D2. And Kentucky is a hugely different planet than Iowa/Nashville media and pressure wise.

I think what you’re seeing with NIL is that coaches are happy to stay where they are to try and compete without the pressure of a blue blood. Welcome to modern CBB.
 

bbnkat02

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At least UNC is getting the big name coaches extended contracts, so every one will be locked up if UK needs one a year from now.
Yeah but notice the other side of that. They aren’t clamoring to go there either. When 5-10 years ago they would’ve. Why would I want to trade my happy job for a much harder one with maybe a 3M bump? Would take the right ego.

I think we’re starting to see a strange inverse where the dudes playing only care about money and the dudes coaching care about their sanity/happiness.

Times they are a changing.
 

seccats04

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Oats might do well, but he is certainly not the only good coach out there so why get your panties wadded up? When Pope is gone, if we have a serious coaching search, we will have a great coach
Depends on who the AD is. If it’s an in house Mitch cronie, then I expect another lackluster hire. If we get some fresh blood with some new ideas who’s not opposed to NIL, then we might get a good coach. I’m not holding my breath until Eli is gone too. He’s a big part of the problem.
 
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BBNinSCar

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Yeah but notice the other side of that. They aren’t clamoring to go there either. When 5-10 years ago they would’ve. Why would I want to trade my happy job for a much harder one with maybe a 3M bump? Would take the right ego.

I think we’re starting to see a strange inverse where the dudes playing only care about money and the dudes coaching care about their sanity/happiness.

Times they are a changing.
You have to find your own Golden or Cignetti. UNC might look to someone like Josh Shertz.
 

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Oats isn't perfect by any means, but he would have had us nationally competitive again pretty much immediately.

Not pursuing him aggressively was absolutely a big miss by Mitch.

I'm just praying we get serious on our next search and bring in the absolute best coach possible - as quickly as possible.
 
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Oats isn't perfect by any means, but he would have had us nationally competitive again pretty much immediately.

Not pursuing him aggressively was absolutely a big miss by Mitch.

I'm just praying we get serious on our next search and bring in the absolute best coach possible - as quickly as possible.

Oats was never going to leave Tuscaloosa!!!!!
How hard is it to understand

Divorce, kids

He wasn't leaving
 

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I mean, I agree but this fan base would be total apologists for it if we did.



None of these coaches are clean. This is a dirty sport. But yes, none of them are gonna come here. Would gladly take five years of Pitino. I know that's not realistic but I'd easily do it.

If I were a betting man now that Oats is no longer an option, that basically leaves Iowa State's TJ Otzelberger as the only decent one right now based on everything we know in basketball. Then you have the next tier where it would be guys like Vandy's coach, Fred Hoiberg, etc.
Otz, Vandy coach and Hoiberg…. hooray. This job would chew those 3 up and spit them out worse than Pope. None of them would work here. I’d rather give it to Pitino for 5 years than to hire anything below the top 4-5 guys.
 

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In the era of blue blood advantage gone, I tend to think the UK job has little appeal to other top tier coaches given the volatility of the environment. I think everyone needs to be realistic there. Punt Pope out after 3 years, not sure how it really helps the image.
So we are just supposed to keep Pope another 2-3 years, suck *** that whole time, all just because of perception? The next coach might not work but i KNOW Pope won’t work out.
not sure why anyone believes Oats would come here
Because he’s similar to Cal 20 years ago. Hes a youngish, hot shot coach, who has been knocking on the door but has kept coming up short. He’s ambitious and wants to be talked about in the same manner as his buddy Danny. It was easy for him to say he wasn’t interested last time when he wasn’t offered. He can say what he wants publicly but I’d bet money if UK made a serious play for him that he’d come. Hell hire Bama’s AD if that’s what it takes to get him here.

Unless I’m just totally wrong and misread him and he’s actually too scared of the UK job… but given his personality I don’t think he is. He can hope all he wants but he’s not winning a title at Bama. Non traditional basketball schools just don’t win titles in college basketball. The closest to that happening is Florida but they’ve been good for 25+ years. Plus, teams wearing red don’t win natties. It’s a proven fact. 😂
 
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Nobody wants the UNC job as they know they will always play 2nd fiddle to Duke in the ACC and have to deal with the Duke whistle.
I'll give it to you, you're really committed to playing this bit.

I'd offer a lengthy list in rebuttal, including UNC's impending departure from the ACC. But we both know exactly how you'd respond.

See you in the SEC in 2031.
 

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I’d be cautious in assuming a 60 year old Coach who hasn’t been in College in a decade is going to be the magic elixir here. He could also be an old punch drunk Boxer whose best days are long gone coming into a sport that no longer resembles the one he left.

I’m telling you all right now, UNC may be in big trouble here and possibly should have kept Davis. Heels are an aging movie star refusing to see all the wrinkles in the mirror since the academy award days. They thought much like many UK fans did, that every big name would just leap for the job and it’s not happening. For someone like a D Hurley; UK and UNC would be a step down when you already coach at a national championship factory in Storrs. Golden just won a title 12 months ago and has his own thing going. May could have a ring tomorrow night and Lloyd is in a very nice position at Arizona. They’re not going to automatically fall for the aging movie stars to get an autograph when they’re already being asked for their autographs and making millions in the process that wouldn’t be dramatically different than what the competitors would pay.

Heels could end up in a mad scramble to put a pulse on the sideline and that’s not what they ever thought would happen.

I just disagree. Billy D would be great coming back, Coaching basketball is basketball and he has been coaching at the highest level...I think he will do fine coming back to college and recruiting is easier now...its just like free agency and the best contract offer is all that really matters now..not relationships and constant visits/contact.

Age? Pope is 53, pitino, izzo, Sampson, Barnes all over 70. [Barnes 3 straight elite 8s at Tennessee, yea i know, admit its good though]

Billy D at the very least I think get them back to one final four in let's say a 5 year tenure. Worth the gamble.
 

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So we are just supposed to keep Pope another 2-3 years, suck *** that whole time, all just because of perception? The next coach might not work but i KNOW Pope won’t work out.

Because he’s similar to Cal 20 years ago. Hes a youngish, hot shot coach, who has been knocking on the door but has kept coming up short. He’s ambitious and wants to be talked about in the same manner as his buddy Danny. It was easy for him to say he wasn’t interested last time when he wasn’t offered. He can say what he wants publicly but I’d bet money if UK made a serious play for him that he’d come. Hell hire Bama’s AD if that’s what it takes to get him here.

Unless I’m just totally wrong and misread him and he’s actually too scared of the UK job… but given his personality I don’t think he is. He can hope all he wants but he’s not winning a title at Bama. Non traditional basketball schools just don’t win titles in college basketball. The closest to that happening is Florida but they’ve been good for 25+ years. Plus, teams wearing red don’t win natties. It’s a proven fact. 😂
Bit of a catch 22 - not sure how you pull in the coach of your dreams when they'll all be scared off by a fanbase that has absolutely no patience. Look at Dusty - seems happy being somewhere with all the facilities, NIL he needs without all the pressure. Golden may see it similarly, yet both are at football schools. Oates just resigned.

I just don't think coaches care anymore about the brand anymore - Lloyd just turned down UNC. They want the facilities, the NIL, support knowing they can win an NC. The less pressure the better.

I honestly wonder what coach UK can actually attract if the job opens if they punt Pope ASAP. I kind of liked the guy PC just picked up from South Florida - feels like he'd fit the culture of UK's Disney like environment.
 

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UK under Brainfart and the old geezer in the presidents office clearly doesn’t want any winning here either.

Cal had a worse reputation than Oats when he was brought in here. You fools keep praying for some choir boy to come win titles here but that’s not gonna happen. You clearly have to have an edge and chip on your shoulder to get it done. 4 straight titles are about to be won by coaches most would consider an *******. Who GAF? If they’re winning and aren’t breaking any laws then i don’t care how pissy the coach makes some of you.
They don’t listen. When I was at UM calipari had players arrested constantly. Invovled in serious crimes. Plus soliciting prostitution, inciting riots, constant club brawls. They were the city bullies. All sorts of big crime investigations going on, drugs you name it. WAY worse than Oats. But the guy you’re responding to defended Calipari to the 10th degree. Most of the Oats haters do. It’s comical how big of hypocrites people can be.
 

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Oats has only had (1) a murdered on the team, (2) a star player who gave the murdered his gun, (3) a large-scale marijuana dealer and (4) blantantily ignored NCAA rules and used a judge to get a professional player eligible.

NO THANK YOU. I don't care how many games he has won recently, he is not worth it.
 

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Yep. UNC fans are quickly approaching panic mode. And a lot of them still have delusions about being able to pull Dusty May from Michigan and McCollum away from the program he grew up dreaming of leading.

Donovan is their best shot. And Donovan isn’t going to have serious discussions until the nba season is over.

Personally i think it’s worth their while to wait on Donovan at this point. That first season may be difficult due to being behind on portal season. But they’re not going to do better than him at this point.
I’m sure they will get Donovan and it will be a kick in the balls to see occur.
 

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Pitino was in charge of a program that provided alcohol and whores to high school recruits. Coincidentally, his security cameras were out of order during the time that all the prostitute parties happened. Minardi Hall, the place he said he knows everything that happens there.

That is flat out disgusting, and I would have a hard time cheering for our team if he was out coach.

Cheating is one thing. I could handle Miller or Wade.
Providing alcohol and prostitutes for high school recruits is a level of filth I do not want anywhere near our program.
Dude, you have no clue of what the average SEC football recruiting trip is like or major basketball.

Guess what the “hostess” assigned to recruits do? Where do you think that scene from He Got Game came from?

Money and women are thrown like crazy. The whole sport is dirty. Our program has never been clean. None of the good programs are clean.
 

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They don’t listen. When I was at UM calipari had players arrested constantly. Invovled in serious crimes. Plus soliciting prostitution, inciting riots, constant club brawls. They were the city bullies. All sorts of big crime investigations going on, drugs you name it. WAY worse than Oats. But the guy you’re responding to defended Calipari to the 10th degree. Most of the Oats haters do. It’s comical how big of hypocrites people can be.
100%

Just look at the naive guy who responded to me oblivious to college programs providing women to sleep with recruits. We have fans who legitimately believe everyone else is dirty but their heroes. And if the person is dirty somewhere else, as soon as they become a part of their team, they’re not dirty anymore. It’s laughable.

Most of those people have never seen behind the curtains. Their whole worldview is based off of PR and television. No clue of just how corrupt all of it is and always has been. Bogus grades, cash, jobs for player’s families or cash to them, girls to hook up with- it’s sooo dirty.
 

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I wonder what UK fans would be saying if Oats was our coach and was trying to bring a guy in that played pro ball for 2 years?

What would UK fans say if a UK player was at the scene of a murder and had a handgun in his backseat, and the UK coach played him?
They’d be apologists for it. It’s what homers do. I remember the message boards before Cal got the job. I remember the apologists for Gillispie when the stories around town made it to the boards.
 

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I’m sure they will get Donovan and it will be a kick in the balls to see occur.

A little bit yeah. I don’t think it’s a guarantee Donovan will be as successful in this era. His big thing his last 8 years at Florida was he needed to keep guys around and he hated what recruting had become.

Roster turnover seems inevitable now. After his back to back he lost his top 6 and went NIT, NIT, 1st round exit. He’ll have to adapt.
 

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i cant go for that soul train GIF
 
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Beatle Bum

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I'll try this one last time.

Nate Oats was going through a divorce and was not going to leave the town. There are custody issues, and he would have had to leave his children behind if he took a job outside of Tuscaloosa.
You're wasting time pining for Oats.
🤪 🤪 🤪 🤪 🤪
Why don’t you give me a good sit down now and explain how Mitch is not responsible for Covid, WWII, canned peas, the Ford Pinto, the decline in birthrate, Trump, fluoride in the water, Matt Jones, the Challenger explosion, the Wiggles, lite beer, Bill Cosby, 911, and Taylor Swift?

🤦‍♂️
 
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