What’s your point? My point is mark pope Sux and should’ve never been hired! Therefore he should resign or be fired! That’s my point.
The last game was mildly impressive. And if we lost to a 68th KP rated team like that this year AT HOME nobody would be talking it up.
This year we lost to 53rd Missouri and 35th Georgia at home and people lost their minds over it (understandably.)
However, that 2020 team lost to 68th Tennessee and 294th Evansville at home.
One team was national title level good and the other was the “worst season in Kentucky history” lol.
BINGO! It’s so beyond obvious. Some people really need some self reflection. Hell, even I do in certain aspects. I’m not to proud to admit that. Fact of the matter is, Pope is the UK coach CURRENTLY. Let’s hope he succeeds for the sake of UK. That’s what I’m doing. I’ll do it if and when we have another coach.
TWO awful regular seasons, brother: 2011 and 2014. Oddly enough, we lost to UConn in the FF and title game BOTH years!
I wish Joe B was still around to give Pope advice. This year I think we’re all going to see what Mark Pope is made of. It’s a make or break year for him and it’s going to be interesting to see how he coaches. I know my opinion means little but I believe his recruiting needs to improve. I’m not being harsh about rankings either I’m talking about guys that fit his system.
He NEVER made a FF after 1998. Put that in your pipe and toke it! Coming from someone who liked Tubby.
Don’t forget SEC regular season champs with player of the year in the sec Emmanuel quickly and top 10 at the time season was canceled.
If, theoretically, the other SEC team were:
Norfolk St.
Coppin St.
Georgia Southern
Idaho
Siena
McNeese St.
Eastern Kentucky
Oral Roberts
Princeton
Savannah St.
Grambling
Campbell
Montana
Would winning the SEC title mean anything? No, it wouldn’t. This is why, rather than comparing SEC ranks, it’s better to compare teams using measures that encompass all factors related to their season. That’s why I use the NCAA tournament seed. 2020 SEC isn’t even close to the current version.
Do I want to win the SEC? Yes! Is it something I am going to use to compare teams year to year? Absolutely not!
Also, you misspelled both Immanuel and Quickley.
Tubby’s resume way better than Pope! Pope is more comparable to Billy Clyde!
Jesus I take back the 2019-2020 team! F’n lady about to lose her mind. I’m bashing pope your bashing maxey and quickly’s team. Sorry to break it to you. Mark Pope is not the guy.
I’m just asking you to be consistent. That’s all. If 2025 regular season sucked, so did:
2000
2002
2006
2007
2008
2009
2011
2014
2016
2018
2020
2021
2023
2024
2026
Your “Kentucky standards” allow for the following to be good enough regular seasons:
2001
2003
2004
2005
2010
2012
2015
2017
2019
2022
So Kentucky fails to meet “Kentucky standards” most of the time. FARRRRRRR Kentucky!
And there it is! But, nope, it’s. MYTH! Lmao
Pope hasn’t seen an elite 8 as a coach in his life. Tennessee has 3 in a row. Put that in your pipe and toke it.
Yeah, to be fair, that was unnecessary. I think I get frustrated with low hanging fruit, inconsistent arguments and I kind of assumed the lazy attempt at spelling was symptomatic of the very same issue. I apologize @Resignmarkpope for pointing out the spelling errors. That was rude.
I could give a rats azz. Care less about people’s feelings or what they think of me
Ok good. Then, we can get along.
Your arguments are @SS and entirely riddled with inconsistencies. Do better.
Im half joking. I enjoyed the back and forth.
I’ll be here this time next year when pope is fired after losing another 14 gamesOk good. Then, we can get along.
Your arguments are @SS and entirely riddled with inconsistencies. Do better.
Im half joking. I enjoyed the back and forth.
You could clean up that sentence by putting a comma after “much”. Kidding
No you won’t. You’ll create a new account that’s ready to blast the new coach.
That’s the problem. Had Cal left or been fired around 2019 then we’d only been 4 years from a final four and 7 from a title. BBN’s patience with the next coach would have been a little better than it is now. They’d been a little more willingly to take a chance on a guy like Hurley or Golden who weren’t sure things but had potential. But next year in 2027 we will be 12 years from a final four and 15 years from a title. Both are two of the biggest droughts in program history. The fanbase has zero patience at this point.
Once again that all goes back to Barnhart being horrible at his job.
It could be 30 years and it wouldn’t matter. Pope is what he is. A slightly above average coach at best who should be at a low major school.
The one and only way year 1 is considered “good” is if you’re grading it on a major curve. Middle of pack in the SEC, 10+ losses and a s16 exit is not a good season at UK, period. Was it “good” considering Pope was the coach? Yea you could say that. If anything season 1 was neutral. He won some games we didn’t expect but also lost a bunch we had no business losing.
Give me a standard you use to grade seasons as good or bad. Let me use your standard and determine which ones are good or bad. I’m always down for a new idea.
They did the same thing with Stoops. Let’s give him another chance to turn thing around when the poop has already hit the fan.
You can look at whatever you choose but it has no bearing on what I stated.
No it does not. You are just being incorrigible at this point. He has been head coach here for 2 years. That is indisputable fact. You looking at his entire career which has nothing to do with my post. When have you ever heard of a head coach being removed because he did not win enough at his previous job?
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You need proof? If Butler and Robinson never get hurt, last years team at least finishes so much better. That team beat 2 of the teams that made the FF.
It comes down to the players he gets. He should know what he needs now, but if he doesn't get the guys he needs and he fails, he’s out and that doesn't bother me one bit. Not sure why you guys think it would bother me if Pope is fired after next year.
What does bother me, are the nasty insults and barbs hurled at Pope, because I don’t feel like he deserves what’s being said.
I've said from the beginning he shouldn't have been hired, but here we are.
Do I think he can right the ship next year? Yes, I do, but I wouldn't bet my house on it.
You're still putting a lot of effort into defending a team that played a much weaker schedule and would have gotten about the same seed Pope got last year after playing a much tougher schedule.
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Thst 19/20 team wasn't "great", it was good, but Ashton Hagans was a problem. He got suspended right before the Florida game.
Doesn't matter, Saint Peters, UNCW, or Oakland college would have beaten that team in the first round anyway.
Against a really weak schedule.
You’re saying that team was great, you literally said that. But it's very possible they get a 4 seed, 3 at best.
But you're ready to fire Pope, because he's not keeping up with expectations, even though UK was a 3 seed last year after winning more quad 1 games than anyone ever has.
You’re all over the map.
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That’s actually a very accurate post and is a great concern of mine.
If Pope stays with his bad substitution patterns next year, I will just throw my hands up. It would confirm that he's too blind to see what is so obvious.
I'm defending him, but he is skating on the thinnest ice right now and I suspect a lot of his supporters are thinking the same way.
The only reason I'm supporting him, is because he works extremely hard and he is putting UK first, but that only lasts so long. Next year is put up, or leave time.
And he literally called that team "great".
If you swapped coaches, he would say 2020 was awful and 2025 was great.
I don't expect him to understand any of this, but I wish he could.
It’s funny, because you get frustrated when your flawed thoughts get easily disproven and blow up in your face, then you just flail away and claim Pope isn’t the guy.
I just wish you would slow down and understand what we're telling you. We don't think Pope is the guy either, but we're hoping he proves us wrong and we think he can.
Why are you talking about the elite 8? Is that the new made up standard now?
that's new, I thought it was Final 4, or bust.
Ohhh wait, I get it, you're cherry picking odd facts to make it seem like UK has fallen behind Tennessee.
Except, Pope wasn’t the coach 2 years ago. Cal didn’t make the Elite 8 that year either. Heck, he didn't even get past the first round. But, but, but "he's in the HOF"