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You do understand talent acquisition and finding the right guys that fit your culture and vision are large parts of "coaching", right? What you're talking about is pure technical teaching not "coaching". Coaching includes way more than just teaching technique. It's everything.Recruiting,managing personalities, creating a winning culture, hiring the right assistants,pushing the right buttons at the right time, team building, instilling mental toughness, encouraging creativity and problem solving and so much more.
So you have all the stuff... and get 10 very mediocre guys as starters,,, are you winning??? Probably not... ONCE AGAIN TALENT IS WHAT WINS... coaching very small percentage
I think coaching is important in what a coach is able to get out of his wrestlers, pick the ones that will shine the most, motivate them, keep them focused, bring out their best. That takes a skill.
I'm sorry. I shouldn't have replied. Im trying to explain something to a brick wall. Have a good night bud.
This is wrong in so many different ways , arguments and facts.
ESPECIALLY considering coaches are measured by ONE tournament, at the end of the toughest year in college sports.
How's it wrong? You could put the 5 best coaches in the country on the worst team and they still aren't gonna be that good... you can put the 5 worst coaches on the best team in the country and I bet they sweep the best coaching staff/worst team every time... how is that not a great argument lol
You are explaining nonsense lol Taylor is the new exciting thing that is pulling in TOP TALENT... cael is the current goat pulling in TOP TALENT... they arent over there polishing turds and turning them into national champs. They are taking the most talented wrestlers and piling them up and putting out the ones that dont flop ... them coaching and doing all that other **** is a small part of these wrestlers being champs, these kids talent and work ethics is the majority of what makes them champs
Not saying coaching isn't a factor...its probably "all of the above". But if I had to pick my coach's "super power", it would be the eye for talent. That is what blows me away about Cael. Kasak was a high level recruit (too lazy to look up the actual ranking). But I don't recall anyone thinking he was a finalist in year 1. The production they have gotten out of Haines is insane. I think he see "it" in these guys. Of course, if you get enough of them, your odd of having a great eye go up...
No one lol some ppl just dont know how to comprehend words lol or they think coaching is everything
Would you say Kennedy, Keuter, Arnold and Ayala? I think Cael has an eye for the nuance and subtle differences that are the difference between a Josh Barr and a Gabe Arnold (similarly ranked recruits with differing results out of the gate). DT seems to have it too. Jax is easy. But the focus on Vega and Robbidue was impressive. Not saying everyone didn't know they would be great. But champs year 1. Wow. I'd argue that getting Nelson Brands and Ryder Block on the podium is a better coaching job than coaching Jax Forresst to a national championship.
Why is this such a black and white issue for u? If U put Cael and Co at any school in a couple years they make gains and attract more talent. Eventually the other pieces come together. How was the previous crew at PSU? Or Iowa post Gable? Maybe coaching mattered more than a little…
He was ranked much higher than that at one time. Did he drop so much being out with an injury?? Plus, let’s wait to see if he wins a roster spot then see how he does before we anoint him as much better than his ranking
Anthony is again. Going back down to 149, looked lean and good sized at 165. Maybe we could hire him as director of weight cutting
I don’t know the circumstances of his drop. He was 18 when he signed then beat Leo DeLuca. He’s not a project. Plus had quality wins as a RS. Including Lillidahl, ragusin and Cooper Flynn
Tried this. He quickly pivoted.
But put you (or any not so good coach) in charge of the exact same wrestlers at PSU over the past few years the wrestlers wouldn’t be as individually successful and the team wouldn’t score as many points. Because coaching matters.
Take two teams of equal talent. Give one to Kevin Jackson for a year and the other to Cael Sanderson for a year. Cael’s team kicks the living snot out of KJ’s team at that point.
Why? Because coaching matters.
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I like this point.
But to have a dynasty, you need to be great in more than just one area.
If he really is, he must know where he’s going to risk going in the portal again now that he’s on the 3rd best team in the country in the best conference. He hinted at nationals he would prefer to be 197 but Nebraska wanted him at heavyweight. I think their starter at 197 has a redshirt to use? If so, staying should work out. Ziola was small this year but looked great, and has the height and frame to beef up. What other team would he want to go to for his final year other than us? Unless Ohio st is losing Feldman and willing to pay up to get him.
Wait, they will attract more what did you say...talent... wellllllllllll no ****, now you are understanding, maybe without understanding tho
attracting TALENT is exactly what the **** we been saying all day jfc , you finally nailed itI would bet $ he never sees 149 again. 157 maybe.Anthony is again. Going back down to 149, looked lean and good sized at 165. Maybe we could hire him as director of weight cutting
Cael is a better coach then Ayres. Think we could all agree there... and Van Ness was light years ahead of Valencia, in ranking, seeding, blah blah blah... Valencia 1 yr with way lesser coach, van Ness 4 yrs with goat cael.... soooooo coaching is a big difference maker how again? Why isnt MBlaze beating Davino??? He has a Better coach yeah???
Why???? Because talent matters more then coaching
He said on his instagram he’s planning on going back to 149. I guess he thinks this is his ideal weight. He made it the time he was at Iowa, but was shredded like a body builder and sucked down. That’s why I said hire him as weight cutting director. If Gabe could cut like him, he could be a 165 easy
I love that Kevin Jackson is catching random strays in here
Swaw is now saying AJ is pitching to teams him and Anthony as a package deal at 197 and 149... (dont know how to link his twitter post)
Angelo 2024
Kueter 2023
Arnold 2023
Drake 2021
Kennedy 2020
Thats 5 wrestlers in 6 years. Less than one per year.
Now do PSU over the same 6 year period and OSU in a 2 year period.
Thats the difference. Quantity.
And how do pro sports mitigate this?? The worst teams get the highest draft picks. How does college wrestling operate? The best team in wrestling landed the #1, #2, #8, #18, #33 pfp in the 2025 class and brought in an Olympic Gold Medalist from Japan. Imagine the Patriots in the Brady / Belichick era having three top 10 overall draft picks every year.Wait, they will attract more what did you say...talent... wellllllllllll no ****, now you are understanding, maybe without understanding tho
Idk how many Ferraris one team can afford. I’d still take the shot on AJ, Anthony tho is ehhh. But if it keeps Angelo than do it. But also hire full time drivers an babysitters for the other two.
I think depth has really hurt us over the years i think just my opinion is there trying to change that with the 27 class which is pretty big six in the top 40
Read the thread. I was directly responding to a question about Okie State.
but it will take more than the 27 and 28 classes. Those classes are the yearly norm for PSU and now OSU. You can't get 3 guys in a four year period and compete now.
But that said, I did think it was a decent question.
2026 PSU
Van Ness
Barr
Mirasola
Sealey
Lilledahl
Duke
Blaise
Haines
Misses
Facundo transfer
Ryder transfer
Even with the misses and Sealey and Mirasola having yet to make their mark, Iowa still doesn’t hold a candle to them on a per wrestler/per season basis.
You get what you earnI love that Kevin Jackson is catching random strays in here