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That's what happens when you live in a bubble
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I am here.... this is part of me expanding outside my bubble by discussing and debating my ideas (as I also go to progressive platforms to discuss and debate my ideas with them too), but you refuse to have a conversation about what you are saying and respond like this. I am trying to understand what you bubble sees and how you get to your beliefs because it IS a serious problem that our country cant agree on very simple obvious things partially because people refuse to have discussions.

He raised something like $350k Monday night in a fund raiser (not from democratic or lobby's for foreign nations I will add)

The only thing I can imagine you think he is having a bad week over would be Bongino going at him. Is that what you are refering to?
 
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cam_blev said:
I am here.... this is part of me expanding outside my bubble by discussing and debating my ideas (as I also go to progressive platforms to discuss and debate my ideas with them too), but you refuse to have a conversation about what you are saying and respond like this. I am trying to understand what you bubble sees and how you get to your beliefs because it IS a serious problem that our country cant agree on very simple obvious things partially because people refuse to have discussions.

He raised something like $350k Monday night in a fund raiser (not from democratic or lobby's for foreign nations I will add)

The only thing I can imagine you think he is having a bad week over would be Bongino going at him. Is that what you are refering to?
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People desperately need to open minds and debate. So much BS going around and having conversations about absolutely common sense problems that shouldn't eat up time and money is a key problem. Illegals shouldn't be a problem... BS , boys in girls sports are two stupid issues.
 
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People desperately need to open minds and debate. So much BS going around and having conversations about absolutely common sense problems that shouldn't eat up time and money is a key problem. Illegals shouldn't be a problem... BS , boys in girls sports are two stupid issues.
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Strong ideas loosely held -- But admittedly that can be very difficult.
Also, it's been clear for a long time this isn't the place for that, but I try anyway and have fun doing it.
Ideally if my ideas are wrong and not based in fact, I would like to have facts presented that disprove my ideas, again that can still be hard
 
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roadtrasheer said:
People desperately need to open minds and debate. So much BS going around and having conversations about absolutely common sense problems that shouldn't eat up time and money is a key problem. Illegals shouldn't be a problem... BS , boys in girls sports are two stupid issues.
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Agreed...common sense solutions. Come here LEGALLY, and there's no problem. Voter I.D.? No problem. Americans only voting? No problem! No biological males competing against women? No problem.

How do you debate "common sense" with folks who
A) Don't believe in "nation States" (the open borders crowd)
B) Can't define what a woman is?
C)Think requiring I.D.s to vote is "racist"?
D) Can't win unless they can cheat?

Ans: You can't "debate" them...you just defeat them!

That's why they hate me! They can't debate me, and they can't defeat me!

Ha...don't I know it!

You too huh Kamala?
 
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cam_blev said:
Strong ideas loosely held -- But admittedly that can be very difficult.
Also, it's been clear for a long time this isn't the place for that, but I try anyway and have fun doing it.
Ideally if my ideas are wrong and not based in fact, I would like to have facts presented that disprove my ideas, again that can still be hard
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I enjoy reading fact based debates. Enjoy many news articles posted even the ones moe puts on here .
So much stupid stuff going on in this country the important issues dont matter and I believe thats by design. The two I mentioned earlier and so much more . I agree with this administration on most issues but not all .
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Agreed...common sense solutions. Come here LEGALLY, and there's no problem. Voter I.D.? No problem. Americans only voting? No problem! No biological males competing against women? No problem.

How do you debate "common sense" with folks who
A) Don't believe in "nation States" (the open borders crowd)
B) Can't define what a woman is?
C)Think requiring I.D.s to vote is "racist"?
D) Can't win unless they can cheat?

Ans: You can't "debate" them...you just defeat them!

That's why they hate me! They can't debate me, and they can't defeat me!

Ha...don't I know it!

You too huh Kamala?
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What im saying is, why are we even having a discussion about any of that ? You are 100% correct. Why are we paying for all the stupid crap like sex changes to inmates or anyone for that matter. My point is why oh why oh why are we even at this point
 
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I enjoy reading fact based debates. Enjoy many news articles posted even the ones moe puts on here .
So much stupid stuff going on in this country the important issues dont matter and I believe thats by design. The two I mentioned earlier and so much more . I agree with this administration on most issues but not all .

What im saying is, why are we even having a discussion about any of that ? You are 100% correct. Why are we paying for all the stupid crap like sex changes to inmates or anyone for that matter. My point is why oh why oh why are we even at this point
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You answered your own question. You have the drivel Leftists post on here and try to treat as legitimate debate! Even you admit it's all psychobabble. You can see they never defend or advocate for any of it, they just vote for it. :rolleyes:
 
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“Speaking during a mid-March press briefing with foreign media, Netanyahu said that once Israel achieves its military objectives, new pipeline routes could bypass key chokepoints such as the Strait of Hormuz and Bab el-Mandeb.

“Once we achieve our goals… what has to be done is to have alternative routes instead of going through the choke points,” Netanyahu said. “Oil pipelines… going west… right up to Israel, right up to our Mediterranean ports… you’ve just done away with the choke points for forever.”

Netanyahu said Israel’s objectives in the war remain focused on dismantling Iran’s ballistic missile and nuclear capabilities, declining to give a timeline for the conflict.

“We have goals that have to be achieved and we’re not counting the days,” he said.”
 
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It's going to end one way or the other and sooner than later. Not to mention what happens once the Iranian people are told they can come out. We get you hate the Jews but they aren't in charge. Neither was the idiot that just got bombed as he obviously sucked at negotiating.
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Not sure how my posts has anything to do w hating the Jews? What it does illustrate is that Israel has other objectives beyond what’s been communicated to Americans and their timeline is different as well. These actions indicate they have zero interest in diplomacy.
 
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Not sure how my posts has anything to do w hating the Jews? What it does illustrate is that Israel has other objectives beyond what’s been communicated to Americans and their timeline is different as well. These actions indicate they have zero interest in diplomacy.
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He should have negotiated faster if the story is even true. Because once the Iranian people come out of their houses they will want to negotiated too. .

The Rhetoric on the right from some is as retarded as it is from the left during this mission.

Isarel isn't going to push their luck with Trump on this. People need to stop assuming they are not doing the dirty work they are being told to do. Some know better because they are familiar with how targeting packages work. Which makes this topic even more stupid as those in charge of Iran today probably are not going to be in charge in the future. As they still have to face their people. I would recommend them moving to Russia.
 
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Let us know when it gets as bad as the last Administration. Until then I'm willing to sacrifice while Trump continues to clean up the mess Obama/Biden left us.
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Most people will not be and the polls reflect that. It’s not what I thought I was voting for.
 
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Most people will not be and the polls reflect that. It’s not what I thought I was voting for.
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You voted for Harris, Biden, Clinton×2, Obama, Kerry, and Gore. So you being upset that the IRGC is getting beat down doesn't surprise me. The economy will be fine. If your friends in Tehran weren't so fvcking insane then Trump wouldn't had to do this. I'm glad I voted for someone smart enough to adjust to the reality we live in instead of the unicorns and rainbows utopia your tribe is living in. He asked nicely. They said Death to America. Let's see how they feel about that in three weeks of more bombing and their people coming out of their homes.
 
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Most people will not be and the polls reflect that. It’s not what I thought I was voting for.
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You voted for Harris, Biden, Clinton×2, Obama, Kerry, and Gore. So you being upset that the IRGC is getting beat down doesn't surprise me. The economy will be fine. If your friends in Tehran weren't so fvcking insane then Trump wouldn't had to do this. I'm glad I voted for someone smart enough to adjust to the reality we live in instead of the unicorns and rainbows utopia your tribe is living in. He asked nicely. They said Death to America. Let's see how they feel about that in three weeks of more bombing and their people coming out of their homes.
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Let me know when the Globalist in Europe stop having meetings and actually assist in doing something for themselves.
 
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Trump should have Tulsi Gabbard release everything on this.





Sinister role of Iran, Hezbollah in 9/11 terror attacks exposed​


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Court: Iran, Hezbollah partly responsible for 9/11

Washington Times, December 30, 2011
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Court: Iran, Hezbollah partly responsible for 9/11​

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The entire thing needs done over as the 9/11 commission wasn't entirely accurate just like He's not 100% correct. But he was definitely over target on some of it.




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Most people will not be and the polls reflect that. It’s not what I thought I was voting for.
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I voted for peace and better policies than democrats are or will offer .
This inflation is temporary and will be over before midterms. Oil prices will drop dramatically. If kamala or any democrat won prices would be through the roof for ever and a day , Iran would still be funding every terrorist they could find and money would be printed and sent over sea to be skimmed and sent back .
If you need proof of what democrats want and will do just look at VA after electing skamburger.
 
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You voted for Harris, Biden, Clinton×2, Obama, Kerry, and Gore. So you being upset that the IRGC is getting beat down doesn't surprise me. The economy will be fine. If your friends in Tehran weren't so fvcking insane then Trump wouldn't had to do this. I'm glad I voted for someone smart enough to adjust to the reality we live in instead of the unicorns and rainbows utopia your tribe is living in. He asked nicely. They said Death to America. Let's see how they feel about that in three weeks of more bombing and their people coming out of their homes.
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More proof Trump did the right thing.






 
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I voted for peace and better policies than democrats are or will offer .
This inflation is temporary and will be over before midterms. Oil prices will drop dramatically. If kamala or any democrat won prices would be through the roof for ever and a day , Iran would still be funding every terrorist they could find and money would be printed and sent over sea to be skimmed and sent back .
If you need proof of what democrats want and will do just look at VA after electing skamburger.
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In modern economies, deflation generally occurs after a recession. Nowadays, it’s rare to see a wholistic price drop without it. Point is - once prices go up, it generally takes major economic pain for them to go back down. And we’ll see about oil prices - I hope that’s true. Also, I generally agree with you on domestic fiscal and social policies in terms of Dems vs GOP. That’s why I always laugh when I get the lib, Dem, bot MAGA NPC responses. However, foreign policy and foreign influence in this administration has been extremely disappointing in this term. I know we’ll agree to disagree but in my eyes this is more of the “Swamp” I thought we were draining. Just the same neocon BS which is not what I thought we were getting. Also, we’ve been hearing that Iran is on the verge of nukes for decades, and I’ve seen little evidence that anything has changed on that front. Just a different admin pushing the messaging and there are many w a blind allegiance to anything coming out of the current White House which I do not.
 
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As for inflation... YES, supply chain issues are temporary, but we're ****** here!

CENTRAL BANKING IS THE CORRUPTION AT THE CORE THAT CAUSES 95% OF OUR PROBLEMS!!!!

No way we go deflationary — the Fed can’t allow it. They’ll hyperinflate first. Gas prices might drop temporarily, but real; inflation doesn’t reverse and the money printer only goes BRRR!!!!!! and debases the currency.

FY 2024 federal government spending vs. tax revenue:
  • Spending: $6.75 trillion
  • Revenue: $4.92 trillion
  • Difference: -$1.83 trillion deficit
FY 2025 federal government spending vs. tax revenue:
  • Spending: $7.1 trillion
  • Revenue: $5.3 trillion
  • Deficit: -$1.79 trillion


Edit for resolution not just pointing our problems:
Cut ~$1T from yearly spending (Corporate Welfare FIRST!!! then Social Security + Medicare + Medicaid - those are the only numbers big enough to matter). A period of deflation after that would suck and hurt like a ************, but it’s still the best option we have.
 
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In modern economies, deflation generally occurs after a recession. Nowadays, it’s rare to see a wholistic price drop without it. Point is - once prices go up, it generally takes major economic pain for them to go back down. And we’ll see about oil prices - I hope that’s true. Also, I generally agree with you on domestic fiscal and social policies in terms of Dems vs GOP. That’s why I always laugh when I get the lib, Dem, bot MAGA NPC responses. However, foreign policy and foreign influence in this administration has been extremely disappointing in this term. I know we’ll agree to disagree but in my eyes this is more of the “Swamp” I thought we were draining. Just the same neocon BS which is not what I thought we were getting. Also, we’ve been hearing that Iran is on the verge of nukes for decades, and I’ve seen little evidence that anything has changed on that front. Just a different admin pushing the messaging and there are many w a blind allegiance to anything coming out of the current White House which I do not.
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I dont get into the name calling, except moe and I think he is just trolling..... no one is that gullible.
I have disagreements with Trump and many many Republicans but have no choice but to vote that way , democrats are just far to cray cray for me. I do believe Iran needed crushed . We have used every tactic under the sun and they keep building more missiles and shipping them out to be used against us and Israel. I was against going into Iraq for many reasons and was hopeful Iran would calm down after the first bombing. Talking to a few friends who have spent many years serving and working in the middle east I believe its the right thing to do and at the right time . Worth the pain of high gas prices.
 
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