We had an amazing run in the BIG season and the BIG TOURNEY and a disappointing NCAA. The teams that go deep usually have elite or very good talent, experience, and very good guard play especially at point, and some luck. Iowa had good talent but not experienced. The loss to UCLA broke our confidence our play ,shooting and free throws after all suffered. We are a young team with three starters underclassmen. Who have been ripped by two many here.
Addie Deal enters transfer portal
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I think we both agree JJ struggles, mightily, with in game adjustments.
We may have come up with the perfect solution...hire Lisa as an "advisor".
Maybe Jan can hire Jennie after she gets canned at Oklahoma.
They paid a lot of money for two seasons of Reagan Beers only for her to be wasted. I'm sure they will want to see a better return on their investment in Chavez.
Speaking of that...seems the Oklahoma 5* recruit developed a bit better than the Iowa 5* recruit.
Would you concur?
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Speaking of that...seems the Oklahoma 5* recruit developed a bit better than the Iowa 5* recruit.
Would you concur?
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WDSMHawk 0
CC disagrees.
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Big difference between the number one recruit and one closer to the upper 20s .Speaking of that...seems the Oklahoma 5* recruit developed a bit better than the Iowa 5* recruit.
Would you concur?
For anyone keeping score...
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Have they gotten to the championship games in back to back years? When they do that get back to me.
This is why I have been to only 2 Iowa sporting events in about 6 years. The money. I said beforehand I wasn't going to contribute to these kids being millionaires for putting ball in hoop or throw football good. It's gross, compared to what people with important jobs in this nation get paid.
Apparently enough to nab the nation's top recruit!
And that recruit started and stayed in the program.
4 McDonalds AA including the #1 recruit, How would you assess their season?
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Welp, considering common opponents, who they lost to when the games were played, game score when each played UCLA...Oklahoma had the better season.
And by a lot.
Plus, they beat a Final Four team.
Was that intended as some sic burn???
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Nope, Just wanting an idea of how objectively you judge programs and coaches.
And yet, sounds like Iowa paid Deal more than Oklahoma paid Chavez.
LOL. Imagine if Clark was still on the team, what she would be telling her. Probably that she is too soft. She used to ride Stulke at times.
I guess the best way I can answer would be that if after 5 years Jan doesn’t make it past the sweet 16 I would honestly be disappointed, Like I have said before I think recruiting is the key to how Jan will fare at Iowa, I think this is a pretty big portal season for her.
As for Jennie, I think she has done well, She has definitely had a nice uptick in recruiting the past couple of years. I think she has solidified Oklahoma as a solid upper tier 2 program, But like with Iowa it will be difficult to get into the top tier level on par with the #1 seeds in the tourney.
And my guess is if that was the case, year 2 was a pay cut for Deal. Iowa likely has a CAP and has to figure out where $ are going. Not to Deal and not to Rodiguez. Going to portal and the top players we have to retain, what is now down to about 6. MWsco also has to get paid.
Post of the day there. ^^
A saying like, "A boy does what he wants to do and a man does what he needs to do" used to hold very true. Nowadays, the bottom-line driver for so many young people is how they FEEL about this thing or that. Mental toughness, personal sacrifice, buckle down and get 'er done, etc, are fast becoming things of the past.
Has there been a good experience (for a college) where a parent moves with their kid?
It's becoming more common, I think. Family business with daughter/son becoming the big bread winner.
I believe Beth has already decided what type of program she wants Jan to run. I know I have.
Not all young people. My kids are in their mid 20's and worked hard to be independent adults. My daughter in particular who has had to work much much harder than my son for everything insists on achieving everything herself even though she knows we have the resources to help. It's how they were raised.
I guess my point is that it's not ALL kids who've lost the willingness to work hard before reaping the rewards and kids are mostly a reflection of their environment. Deal's family and agent are obviously a huge influence on her. Kids are being set up to operate this way. She was given a million dollars out of high school last year. Now she's being told by Jan she's not worth a million dollars today ( not even close), and most kids are going to struggle with that and move on.
Totally agree...definitely not all. But I would say that it is FAR more common to encounter that "me first" and "how do I feel about it" attitude these days than in yesteryear, FWIW. It sure sounds like your kids are on the right path...good job!!
Also, I cannot even fathom what a million real dollars would do to my outlook/attitude now...let alone in my very poor college years. I one time walked across a frozen pond, knowing that I would fall through due to thin ice, to collect a $5 dare...cuz I needed the money. It was a cold walk home and pore risky than it was worth...but $5 is $5.
How stupid would I be for big money??? Sheesh...I don't think I want to think about it.I think so, but I get your point. It probably is a potential red flag in many cases. But, Tate Sage' parents moved from OK to KC area to be closer to where their boys are playing college BB. One twin here in IC, the other one at a CC in KS.
Spencer Lee's parents moved here and AFAIK, that worked out for all involved. So, it probably depends.
You should talk some sense into Rico, but he'll just tell you your not allowed to complain since your not paying the spoiled athletes...
Agree 1000% but my kids are in their 40's so a different generation I guess. Now its my 7 grandkids who are excelling because they're doing the work, like their parents did. My oldest granddaughter is a freshman in college but has the credits of a junior because of the work she did in high school, while working 35 hours a week because she was determined to pay her own way through school. as it turned out she got two major scholarships and its costing her nothing for her entire college career. Now she's well ahead of the game and will have no debt when she graduates. She went to school with a lot of slackers who did not apply themselves and you can guess what their lives will be like. Of course its someone else's problem and they'll probably be on the govt dole just to get by.
Since it seems to be the thing to do today, let me also brag on my kids -- both in their 20s, both working hard and living independently, and both making short-term sacrifices where necessary to set themselves up for long-term goals. They understand that building a life sometimes requires grinding through an unglamorous season. But they also know their value, and they’re smart enough not to confuse needless suffering with character-building.
But let me also say this: Almost nobody of any age is going to be happy with a cut in pay, especially a big one. It’s a lot easier to demonstrate “loyalty” and “longevity” when your compensation stays consistent, or climbs upward. I’m not saying that I have a problem with Iowa if they did, indeed, offer Addie less money. Quite the opposite; it seems completely appropriate. But I can also understand the instinct to look elsewhere if your compensation is trending downward. That’s not a 20-year-old thing -- that’s a human nature thing. The same instinct would apply whether you’re 20, 40, 60, or 80.
Say what you will about young people today, but in a lot of ways, they’re better than older generations at protecting their work-life balance, understanding their value, and refusing to let themselves be exploited by their employers. Sure, that mindset can sometimes show up in less flattering ways. But overall, I think it’s a positive trait. When that perspective is paired with a strong work ethic, it tends to produce not only high-quality workers, but also high-quality people and high-quality lives.
Agree for the most part with the above in bold, but in my working years you had to produce or you were terminated.
I don't necessarily disagree with any of this. Injecting lots of money into any relationship equation is going to create a lot more stress and friction. That's what's going on here with a lot of these programs and the people associated with them.