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onewoof

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From Ryan Brewer at Indiana University at Columbus. One thing he mentioned is the reality that "national championships do not have an expiration date in value."

Indiana gained a good amount from winning it all and is expected to benefit from that for 10-12 years. High risk, high long term return for 1 program only. Indiana only ranks 28th on Brewer’s list at $648 million, a 67.9% increase over 2025. State is ranked higher in value than both Indiana and Ole Miss.
  • Indiana is now #28 on the list at $648M (from $385M in 2025)
  • State is at #24 on the list at $735M
  • Ole Miss is at #30 on the list at $630M
  • Memphis is at #82 on the list at $185
  • Arkansas is #22 on the list at $773M ( loses every football game, still gains value yearly lol)

Brewer wiill track the valuations yearly, increases and decreases per program.


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onewoof

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msudawg12 said:
Do you have a link to the "data" or whatever he uses to do this. Its great to see State above OM but there is a zero percent chance someone is buying our football program over theirs this decade or for next.... I'm just curious what his methodology is.
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Ryan Brewer at Indiana University in Columbus - Google Scholar - Article and methodology here for academic access

Cited 16 times and NYT published at least twice

Perception is not reality in actual valuation, despite any personally held sour feelings due to losing seasons lately.
 
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I was borderline agreeing with the list until I saw Colorado at #20. Colorado should probably be behind every SEC & Big 10 School plus Clemson, Florida State, Miami, and maybe a couple of Big 12 schools.
 
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RebChuck said:
a clear example perpetual confusion of the two programs of there ever has been one.
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here ya go, for your evaluation of the method used

since 2011 when this article was written, State has outgained Ole Miss in valuation, despite records, although, I am certain being #1 for 4 weeks in the first FBS ranking helped in 2014.

now you can just say that this Google Scholar is STOOPID and he don't know the Sip like you do

use your library card and your local library and you too can be learnt and learned and access this high falootin peer reviewed article.

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onewoof

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Willow Grove Dawg said:
I was borderline agreeing with the list until I saw Colorado at #20. Colorado should probably be behind every SEC & Big 10 School plus Clemson, Florida State, Miami, and maybe a couple of Big 12 schools.
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It will drop substantially when Prime Time rolls out with his record payout
 
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onewoof said:
Ryan Brewer at Indiana University in Columbus - Google Scholar - Article and methodology here for academic access

Cited 16 times and NYT published at least twice

Perception is not reality in actual valuation, despite any personally held sour feelings due to losing seasons lately.
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Thats where you're wrong. In M&A activity, a valuation provides a baseline and then businesses sell in multiples of that valuation or less than for a number of reasons. Just because an entitiy is valued at X, doesnt mean that is what it would sell for. Or more simply, what someone would actually pay for it.

I dont have academic access so still looking for what data points he used to come to the conclusion. If you have access, I'd love to know a summary.
 
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msudawg12 said:
Thats where you're wrong. In M&A activity, a valuation provides a baseline and then businesses sell in multiples of that valuation or less than for a number of reasons. Just because an entitiy is valued at X, doesnt mean that is what it would sell for.

I dont have academic access so still looking for what data points he used to come to the conclusion. If you have access, I'd love to know a summary.
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I have the PDF from my university login, its here in EBSCO if you can login. Published in: International Journal of Applied Sports Sciences,2011

 
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onewoof said:
here ya go, for your evaluation of the method used

since 2011 when this article was written, State has outgained Ole Miss in valuation, despite records, although, I am certain being #1 for 4 weeks in the first FBS ranking helped in 2014.

now you can just say that this Google Scholar is STOOPID and he don't know the Sip like you do

use your library card and your local library and you too can be learnt and learned and access this high falootin peer reviewed article.

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And i was told eng. econ was just curriculum padding...who's laughing now?
 
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onewoof said:
From Ryan Brewer at Indiana University at Columbus. One thing he mentioned is the reality that "national championships do not have an expiration date in value."

Indiana gained a good amount from winning it all and is expected to benefit from that for 10-12 years. High risk, high long term return for 1 program only. Indiana only ranks 28th on Brewer’s list at $648 million, a 67.9% increase over 2025. State is ranked higher in value than both Indiana and Ole Miss.
  • Indiana is now #28 on the list at $648M (from $385M in 2025)
  • State is at #24 on the list at $735M
  • Ole Miss is at #30 on the list at $630M
  • Memphis is at #82 on the list at $185
  • Arkansas is #22 on the list at $773M ( loses every football game, still gains value yearly lol)

Brewer wiill track the valuations yearly, increases and decreases per program.


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Thanks, where'd Toledo land?
 
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onewoof said:
here ya go, for your evaluation of the method used

since 2011 when this article was written, State has outgained Ole Miss in valuation, despite records, although, I am certain being #1 for 4 weeks in the first FBS ranking helped in 2014.

now you can just say that this Google Scholar is STOOPID and he don't know the Sip like you do

use your library card and your local library and you too can be learnt and learned and access this high falootin peer reviewed article.

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you believe state's long term sustainable growth rate is the same as Ole Miss? that is flawed.
 
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RebChuck said:
you believe state's long term sustainable growth rate is the same as Ole Miss? that is flawed.
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Not last year but it makes sense now why it's time to break the piggy banks open to try to increase value.

Look at Arkansas. They don't even win and they gain value YoY. Revealing.
 
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I’d like to believe this but we had 750k viewers to their 3.5mil in 2025
We are ranked 49th to thier 9th
The math doesn’t work and the numbers don’t lie
 
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onewoof said:
Indiana gained a good amount from winning it all and is expected to benefit from that for 10-12 years. High risk, high long term return for 1 program only. Indiana only ranks 28th on Brewer’s list at $648 million, a 67.9% increase over 2025. State is ranked higher in value than both Indiana and Ole Miss.
  • Indiana is now #28 on the list at $648M (from $385M in 2025)
  • State is at #24 on the list at $735M
  • Ole Miss is at #30 on the list at $630M
  • Memphis is at #82 on the list at $185
  • Arkansas is #22 on the list at $773M ( loses every football game, still gains value yearly lol)
Brewer wiill track the valuations yearly, increases and decreases per program.
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I agree with the overall concept, but his numbers are effing dumb. The only P4 programs in America we should valued over would be like Iowa State, Kansas State and perhaps a few others. And that's only because of our access to talent.

Poor state with a poor fanbase. Surrounded by teams that care more and have more money in bigger states. And Ole Miss has proven to be willing to go further than us and has a better history than us.

Dude probably got his 2 and 4 backwards or something.

But I do agree that a national title buys you perception. In the old system, I would say almost up to 25 years or so of being considered 'national title worthy' as far as status. In this day and age, much shorter, so yeah a decade seems right. Indiana will likely be forgotten once Cignetti leaves and a decade or so goes by.
 
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*someone publishes something positive about Mississippi State football*

Sixpackers:
Election 2020 GIF by Joe Biden
 
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Willow Grove Dawg said:
I was borderline agreeing with the list until I saw Colorado at #20. Colorado should probably be behind every SEC & Big 10 School plus Clemson, Florida State, Miami, and maybe a couple of Big 12 schools.
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Borderline agreeing is a huge stretch. The ranking is garbage. We really don't want to know how much more valuable our rival's program is than ours right now.
 
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onewoof said:
here ya go, for your evaluation of the method used

since 2011 when this article was written, State has outgained Ole Miss in valuation, despite records, although, I am certain being #1 for 4 weeks in the first FBS ranking helped in 2014.

now you can just say that this Google Scholar is STOOPID and he don't know the Sip like you do

use your library card and your local library and you too can be learnt and learned and access this high falootin peer reviewed article.

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That's pretty straightforward.
 
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