How many first or second place Big10 finishes has Iowa had in the past 25 years?
Addie Deal enters transfer portal
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There's being optimistic and there's being a realist.
27-7 was fantastic.
But how does that translate when a team gets beat by 50+, only to follow that up with barely getting by the #15 seed and losing to the #10 seed...AT HOME?
And before someone points out the Creighton loss...that game was proceeded by beating a #15 seed by 40 points.
Apparently there were some serious locker room issues this season that were happening out of public view.
Next season might very well determine JJ's future.
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Are these legit???
Imagine MW is getting what Deal got.
And based on the Deal fiasco, Jensen has to be pressured into starting MW pretty early next year.
Someone on this site said Chavez at Oklahoma got $1M.
Iowa definitely got hosed, bigly.
Couple posters also said Iowa couldn't afford JennieB/Chavez????
Guess that was bullshiit!
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Sorry for not explaining my point of view properly. it did get our attention
We had a great season and I loved our team. I’m not suggesting we are a crumbling program. I’m wondering about a 5 star defection creating a perception for others, or a weapon to be used against us in recruiting.
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I've never mad mouthed Addie but JFC i don't think you watched the games. Addie cannot complain about "not getting a fair chance".
Record is all that matters. No one will bring up they lost by 50 in the championship. It won't be used as a negative period. Last year they got farther than they were supposed. Both teams outperformed their expectations to start the season.
I highly doubt next year is going to determine Jan's future. You just really enjoy throwing
. You know by your standards Bluder would have been fired multiple times over.
MW is getting between 800k and 1.2 million. Similar money was being discussed with Bjorn.
I believe the Iowa Budget for Womens athletics and money allocated to WBB was the #2 highest this year. I think its a variable number but I do think we are in the top 5 to 6. Those numbers are coming from similar numbers being discussed with Bjorn. You had Texas which was actually offering a lower amount than Iowa (600k-800k). Kansas and supposedly UConn threw out some significant offers at the end but she decided to play with her best friend in Texas.
5 stars defect from programs every year. It's part of today's college sports landscape. Do you think Addie was worth $1 million? I don't, and I can guarantee you that it had to weigh on the minds of everyone on the team who were contributing at a much higher level. Same with Emely for that matter.
You seriously think the "perception" of Iowa WBB, nationally, won't be damaged if Iowa continues to be eliminated after the first weekend on the tournament???Record is all that matters. No one will bring up they lost by 50 in the championship. It won't be used as a negative period. Last year they got farther than they were supposed. Both teams outperformed their expectations to start the season.
I highly doubt next year is going to determine Jan's future. You just really enjoy throwing
You know by your standards Bluder would have been fired multiple times over.
Really????
I'm not even sure the sellout streak continues with the momentum in the men's program.
Part of the draw to Iowa WBB was the struggles in attendance in Fran's last years.
Same reason that Beth is looking at the wrestling program.
Attendance and momentum are suffering there, as well
Wrestling season was a "sellout" by season tix sales, but there were events where actual "butts in seats" were maybe 60% attendance.
That's a distinct possibility in WBB going forward.
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This.
Part of the consternation Iowa fans have about a former 5-star leaving is simply that we rarely land 5-star recruits.
One other thing...I had a poster this winter telling me Iowa was barely in the top half of the B1G in resources spent for WBB!!!
Some people just defend everything with nothing other than blind allegiance.
With NIL, it's all about getting value for the $. If AD was making 1 million, then we didn't get what we paid for. Coming out of HS, AD was paid on potential, and now she's going to be paid on reality. Sometimes those numbers are way different.
Exactly.
It's almost impossible to imagine Deal will earn more elsewhere based on this year's results.
So...JJ offered a pay cut and/or there was too much friction to stay.
Or...Deal's parents and agent were unreasonable.
Or...All of the above.
Yes I can honestly say the national perception was not damaged.
I am willing to place a bet on the sell out.
Well he was wrong, just like you have been the majority of this thread.
People do not always miss time for an ankle sprain. She also played limited time in certain games, and there was an off week.
Hays is also the kind of player who will play through pain. Hell, she played 3 games on a broken foot to win a state high school title.
"Hays is spry for her size, plays big around the rim and proved to be tough as nails after she played through the postseason with a broken foot and helped Wasilla win a Class 4A state title season.
Despite playing basically on one leg, Hays accumulated a total of 25 points, 33 rebounds and 10 blocked shots in three games at the state tournament.
“I broke my foot in February in a home game against West Valley and I thought that I just tweaked it, but it kept getting worse, so we got an X-ray right before state and I found out it was broken,” she said. “Still had to play though.”
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Hays invited to Team USA U18 tryout and selected to play in Adidas All-American Game
The Alaska Sports Report provides in-depth daily coverage of Alaska athletes.
alaskasportsreport.com
With her lack of summer AAU play and limited high school opponents, she came in with like 1/2 the experience/court time of any Iowa players in many years. Expecting her to not have a rough freshman year would have been silly.
Well, since its basically going to be an entirely NEW team next year, (other then a few players) I guess just move on
As to your comment about talent evaluation, and Deal being an overrated 5star, you do realize that Jan wasn't the one who rated her in any of the ranking services, she's not the one who named her a McDonalds AA, a top player in Cali, or a top 20 recruit. (One site had her as the number 9 player in that class). That wasn't Jan who did that. I do think there's some merit to Deal being an older player (by almost 2 years) in high school elevating her status, since most all of that evaluation is done by their junior year. Frankly we still don't know how good a player she may become, but she obviously had issues fitting in to what Jan was trying to do, As for Hays, bigs mature slower, and she didn't play against the same level of competition in high school. The books not written on her yet. Compare her stats against Monica's first season at Iowa.
I believe Lisa/Jan. If I remember they had to fly back from The WNBA draft for Clark?Kate, to meet with Lucy on her official. They took a red eye back to Iowa City, and had Kirk meet with Lucy for a bit before they arrived home. At that point Lisa had not yet announced her retirement. That happened a bit later, and Jan connected with Lucy to reassure her.
Saying she just wasn't ready for B1G play doesn't mean she won't be ready to play 8-9 minutes next season. Check monica's minutes her freshman year...
CAN, maybe, but that's not guaranteed that we'll sign a better player. Jan has ALOT of work to do what with losing 4 seniors, three defections (to this point) Erods status still up in the air, and ONE incoming freshman.
This 100%. The assumption that we're just going to go out and bring in better players then those we lost is befuddling. Maybe we will, but its not a given. Hell , I hated seeing Levin leave. I thought she'd be a solid backup the next two seasons
Do you even read any more? I linked Josh's posts - who was the reporter at the old Hawkeye report with links to Brad Heinrichs interviews where he discusses it. (He is head of the Swarm - University of Iowa Collective). Confirmed numbers on Chit Chat, Rodriguez, Lucy or very close estimates. Additional money can come outside of the collective. Hence how the collective gave Lucy 400k, but I heard her final numbers were in the 500k range. Chit Chat came in at 250k, Rodriguez 300k. The estimates thrown around on Deal and MW are all in the 1 million range.
There was a poster last fall that was throwing around the offers from various schools regarding Bjorn. His information all appeared to end up being pretty factual. Stated, higher offers had been offered at the end, but she decided to go to Texas.
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That's too bad. Her parents and agent did her a disservice, but that's just where things are now. Agents, a pox on all their houses....
Also it doesn't look right, but thats actually a linked post - not my claim.
In either case this is a mess.
McKenna is a very good shooter on the midrange jumper also.
Sellout vs butts in seats?????
Like the Nebraska football sellout streak??? Where local corporations buy up unsold tix to keep the sellout streak intact??
Listen, regardless what many here might think, I'm not rooting against Iowa WBB.
But another "post Clark" season not surviving weekend one will be concerning.
It sounds more like this was a parents?agents deal then an Addie situation. No wonder she was struggling. Can you imagine how all that pressure was weighing on her, especially when we went out to California and played before all her old friends?
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I'd bet it was also weighing heavily on HER mind when she was struggling knowing all this pressure was coming from her parents and agent.
Get off your high horse. I obviously read your intiial post and responded (as did several others) before reading the post you made later. It happens. As I stated later if Deal was getting paid that and the pressure from her parents and agent, its no wonder at all why she crumbled later in the year, (specifically after her return to Cali), playing back home. That seems to be the launching point for when she really started struggling, and it makes some sense knowing more of this now. I feel bad for her. Sure she got paid, but did all this drama put a wrench in her growth going forward. Too bad all the way around.
While there's clearly no guarantee there will as usual be hundreds of players transferring in and out. Chit Chat came out of nowhere. We're replacing Hannah and Feurbach in the starting lineup. Assuming that Hannah's position will be filled by a 5 star player Wolizco and Houston. Hannah was a tremendous 4 year player for us. Wolizco shows a little more skill offensively but obviously the B1G is a different beast physically. Journey had a tremendous year and will only get better. While others think no, I think Journey hopefully continues to get more versatile and can even possibly play a little bit of the 3, and would be a tough matchup if she could use her strength inside. At this point Feurbach's minutes, defense and experience will be the toughest to replace, now that Deal has left and Levin has left. But I also don't think Levin was capable of playing big minutes for a contender. We have money and yes, you can't tell me we can't find someone who wants to play for a top 15 team who is capable of shooting 35% from the 3 and scoring 12-15 pts a game. After this we will just need depth. So honestly yes, I do think we can and will go out and get better players. In the past you had to depend on Freshman but now you can find experienced very good players who are able to step in and play and help immediately.
I have a feeling she could kick your *** on or off the basketball court. Stop tearing these young women down.
I'm just interjecting some thoughts based on the last couple of years. Even when Clark was here we couldn't land Betts or several other players of color because of some issues with the fans or whatever you want to believe. We had several top players who wouldn't even talk to the NIL guru. We went after countless top 50 players in this upcoming class (many top 15 players) and landed a grand total of one of those. (Really an issue when you consider we were losing 4-5 players). Honestly our track record of landing "better" players the last three years is not good at all, and Jan may get to a ;point where she can't be as picky as she'd like because you can't have just 8-9 players. Its great to be optimistic, and I truly hope things go well, but Jans got herself a major issue right now of not only landing from 5-7 players minimum, (maybe more, just to practice effectively), but also to meld all those new players into one cohesive unit.
Probably so. I hold nothing against Addie. She wasn't a good investment, but that's on the program who paid her.