So in the nba you can do a lot of crazy things

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Ivey-
“The world proclaims LGBTQ, right? They proclaim Pride Month and the NBA does too. They show it to the world. They say, ‘Come join us for Pride Month to celebrate unrighteousness.’“


Bulls' Coch Donovan-
“Just inside the Bulls, we have people from all different kinds of backgrounds,” Donovan told reporters. “And whether it’s coaches, from the top, it’s always been we’re all going to work well together, we’re going to accept each other. We’re going to be hard working, we’re going to be respectful and we’re going to be professional.

“… There’s certain standards I think we want to have as an organization and live up to those each and every day.”
 

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Ivey-
“The world proclaims LGBTQ, right? They proclaim Pride Month and the NBA does too. They show it to the world. They say, ‘Come join us for Pride Month to celebrate unrighteousness.’“


Bulls' Coch Donovan-
“Just inside the Bulls, we have people from all different kinds of backgrounds,” Donovan told reporters. “And whether it’s coaches, from the top, it’s always been we’re all going to work well together, we’re going to accept each other. We’re going to be hard working, we’re going to be respectful and we’re going to be professional.

“… There’s certain standards I think we want to have as an organization and live up to those each and every day.”
What do you think your response rate is on normal sports topics and topics that could have a political lean?

98/2?
 

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This is the mirror image of "go woke, go broke" right? Knowing your audience?

NBA fanbases are a bunch of upper middle class millennial hipster liberals who wear glasses frames with no lenses and don't want to cheer for a homophobic player.
yep. You just described Desoto perfectly********

ETA: and me for that matter
 
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TreVeyon Henderson of the New England Patriots supported Ivey by posting a bible verse, Matthew 5:10-
“Blessed are those who are persecuted for righteousness’ sake, For theirs is the kingdom of heaven.”

Now Patriots Coach Mike Vrabel says that TreVeyon Henderson needs to be educated.

The NFL and NBA hate Christianity.

Btw- The Bulls are owned by a Jew and the NBA is primarily owned and ran by Jews. They commanded thís.
 

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Can’t wait for the people that were “done” with the NBA for 20 years and literally couldn’t name 10 players in it to feign outrage.
 
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yep. You just described Desoto perfectly********

ETA: and me for that matter
Tonight Show Comedian GIF by The Tonight Show Starring Jimmy Fallon
 

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TreVeyon Henderson of the New England Patriots supported Ivey by posting a bible verse, Matthew 5:10-
“Blessed are those who are persecuted for righteousness’ sake, For theirs is the kingdom of heaven.”

Now Patriots Coach Mike Vrabel says that TreVeyon Henderson needs to be educated.

The NFL and NBA hate Christianity.

Btw- The Bulls are owned by a Jew and the NBA is primarily owned and ran by Jews. They commanded thís.
Amazing how people’s true character comes out when a righteous light is shined on them. They’re calling evil good. I liked Vrabel, but shame on him in this case. Is Vrabel going to show Henderson what it means to have pride?
 
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The problem is not the athlete or the statements made by any athlete, the problem is that these leagues take the stance to support a specific thing (pride month, BLM, etc) that is separate from the sport itself, causing the players to feel that they need to voice their side when it is differs. If these leagues would just stick to their sport, then the players wouldn't feel the need to comment on stuff outside of the sport.
 

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The problem is not the athlete or the statements made by any athlete, the problem is that these leagues take the stance to support a specific thing (pride month, BLM, etc) that is separate from the sport itself, causing the players to feel that they need to voice their side when it is differs. If these leagues would just stick to their sport, then the players wouldn't feel the need to comment on stuff outside of the sport.
This assessment is not rooted in reality.

You seriously think that if a league didn't show support for various issues/causes, players in that league would refrain from commenting on stuff outside the sport?

Come on.

That isn't how people work. Social media is filled with people commenting on shít their company isn't involved in.
And in your fairytale scenario, athletes would still be constantly interviewed by media who would still ask questions about stuff outside of the sport.
 
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Let's make it clear - he was not let go for his beliefs. He was let go because he was making several dumbass IG livestreams for hours apiece where he was condemning and attacking more than just homophobia. He blasted CATHOLICISM ffs. He called Catholicism a false religion.

If you actually listen to him - he is trending on a Kanye West level on manic ranting. He needs serious help because something is mentally off (not his beliefs, how he's sharing them, how he sounds, his mania).

No good controversy goes unused - this shouldn't really be a left or right thing. This is a dude with the ramblings of a corner store crackhead having a platform to display his mania. If folks try to platform him and keep him relevant then this will escalate much like Kanye's right wing grifting turned into insane neo-nazi for a bit.

He's a replacement level bench player - he's talent is not worth his crazy.
 

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The problem is not the athlete or the statements made by any athlete, the problem is that these leagues take the stance to support a specific thing (pride month, BLM, etc) that is separate from the sport itself, causing the players to feel that they need to voice their side when it is differs. If these leagues would just stick to their sport, then the players wouldn't feel the need to comment on stuff outside of the sport.
This. Just stay the 17 out of all of it and play basketball. If players want to say stuff, ok fine. I can choose to ignore them.

But the hypocrisy is amazing. We have felons, domestic abusers, guys waving guns at clubs, etc, etc, etc, but we wave a player who makes a Christian value point.
 

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This assessment is not rooted in reality.

You seriously think that if a league didn't show support for various issues/causes, players in that league would refrain from commenting on stuff outside the sport?

Come on.

That isn't how people work. Social media is filled with people commenting on shít their company isn't involved in.
And in your fairytale scenario, athletes would still be constantly interviewed by media who would still ask questions about stuff outside of the sport.
I actually agree with you. But why does the league get to pick and choose what they support and advertise but the players can't make comments.

The players union should be all over this. Its a slap in the face to them.
 

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This is the mirror image of "go woke, go broke" right? Knowing your audience?

NBA fanbases are a bunch of upper middle class millennial hipster liberals who wear glasses frames with no lenses and don't want to cheer for a homophobic player.
Yeah, this isn't true. NBA fanbases are not constructed any differently than the general population. And this is an 80/20 issue where the 80s (also known as normal people) agree with the player's take, but are afraid to speak up about it because of the virtue signaling from the 20. And the 20 uses this like a weapon, because they're pieces of shlt. And organizational leaders (like Billy Donovan in this case) would rather bow to the 20 than take a principled stand because they're gigantic seeping pooswahs.

This isn't about taking a side. It's about allowing diversity of thought. That's only allowed when the 20s align with the opinion being made.
 

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This guy might be crazy. But how is forcing someone who holds traditional religious beliefs to celebrate or honor pride month or trans visibility day or whatever not a violation of that person’s rights?

My least favorite version of this is when the USA soccer team wears rainbow jerseys. We are already united around the US flag. That’s what national competition is about. Quit injecting division into it.
 
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I actually agree with you. But why does the league get to pick and choose what they support and advertise but the players can't make comments.

The players union should be all over this. Its a slap in the face to them.
He said alot more than his beliefs on homosexuality.

Is that enough to get cut from a team? I think it’s debatable with all the wild things said and done by other players. It looks like to me that was used as the excuse to release him because his on the court production has cratered since his rookie year.
 

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Yeah, this isn't true. NBA fanbases are not constructed any differently than the general population. And this is an 80/20 issue where the 80s (also known as normal people) agree with the player's take, but are afraid to speak up about it because of the virtue signaling from the 20. And the 20 uses this like a weapon, because they're pieces of shlt. And organizational leaders (like Billy Donovan in this case) would rather bow to the 20 than take a principled stand because they're gigantic seeping pooswahs.

This isn't about taking a side. It's about allowing diversity of thought. That's only allowed when the 20s align with the opinion being made.
If you think that 80% of Americans or 80% of NBA fans agree with his statements, you are very out of touch with reality.
 

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TreVeyon Henderson of the New England Patriots supported Ivey by posting a bible verse, Matthew 5:10-
“Blessed are those who are persecuted for righteousness’ sake, For theirs is the kingdom of heaven.”

Now Patriots Coach Mike Vrabel says that TreVeyon Henderson needs to be educated.

The NFL and NBA hate Christianity.

Btw- The Bulls are owned by a Jew and the NBA is primarily owned and ran by Jews. They commanded thís.

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If you are a nonproductive bench player in the NBA it’s probably best not to make potentially controversial statements. LeBron? Durant? Tatum? The Joker? SGA? They are going to get a lot more leeway.

same way I used to listen to a lot of ******** from a girl if she had a nice rack.
 

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He said alot more than his beliefs on homosexuality.

Is that enough to get cut from a team? I think it’s debatable with all the wild things said and done by other players. It looks like to me that was used as the excuse to release him because his on the court production has cratered since his rookie year.
So just release him.

But you are 100% correct. What he said isn't even close to what a lot of players get away with on a regular basis. So don't be hypocritical.
 
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So just release him.

But you are 100% correct. What he said isn't even close to what a lot of players get away with on a regular basis. So don't be hypocritical.
The NBA has a history of having selective punishment for various instances. Now this wasn’t any kind of punishment he was just released. If I remember correctly, Kyrie Irving said some antisemitic things and I think supported a film or a video that was antisemitic and he lost a bunch of endorsements and can’t remember if he was suspended or not. But this guy isn’t Kyrie Irving so off you go
 
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The NBA has a history of having selective punishment for various instances. Now this wasn’t any kind of punishment he was just released. If I remember correctly, Kyrie Irving said some antisemitic things and I think supported a film or a video that was antisemitic and he lost a bunch of endorsements and can’t remember if he was suspended or not. But this guy isn’t Kyrie Irving so off you go
He was suspended “indefinitely” and I think had to call the owner of the Nets to apologize. Think it lasted 4 or 5 games.
 
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The NBA has a history of having selective punishment for various instances. Now this wasn’t any kind of punishment he was just released. If I remember correctly, Kyrie Irving said some antisemitic things and I think supported a film or a video that was antisemitic and he lost a bunch of endorsements and can’t remember if he was suspended or not. But this guy isn’t Kyrie Irving so off you go
Speaking of things that haven’t aged well, Kyrie not being able to play because he refused to take the vaccine is on the Mt. Rushmore of bad decisions. Hindsight is 20/20 but that looks like a terrible decision from the league now.
 
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Speaking of things that haven’t aged well, Kyrie not being able to play because he refused to take the vaccine is on the Mt. Rushmore of bad decisions. Hindsight is 20/20 but that looks like a terrible decision from the league now.
That wasn’t the league’s decision. It was the state of New York. He would have been allowed to play if he wasn’t in Brooklyn, but The Nets decided the whole thing was a distraction and told him that he couldn’t be a part time player so he didn’t play at all.
 

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If you think 80% of americans are ok with him getting cut for his comments its you who has a reality problem.
This is part of the problem with that side. They conflate things and make straw man arguments.

Most people in this country, regardless of religion, race, or sexual orientation, agree that someone else should have a right to their opinion even if they don't agree with it.
 
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