I heard some Illini Euro guys played pro in Europe; True? if so which ones?

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I really hate this rule that anyone in the US and the world now can play pro ball and then play NCAA college bball. Isn't there an american player who did that this year?

There is a one and done rule plus now they get paid to play college plus their scholarship. Go pro you stay pro
The players are getting paid which makes them professional
 

Zach Jump

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Twin ivisic
Mirkovic
The other vich.

These 4 played pro in Europe.
Peja's kid did not.
4 pros are enough to transform a college team

No direct knowledge on each of the men (and women) that play basketball at Iowa...but a reasonable person would have to believe they all current players on both basketball teams are professionals. Even Jada once said something along the lines now is the time for me to buy clothes since I will never earn this much money again.
 
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No direct knowledge on each of the men (and women) that play basketball at Iowa...but a reasonable person would have to believe they all current players on both basketball teams are professionals. Even Jada once said something along the lines now is the time for me to buy clothes since I will never earn this much money again.
At least nominally, though, college players don't play their sport as a job. They are somewhat limited by academic obligations. I do think there's something to be said for bringing in players who are already mature and already have probably multiple seasons of pro ball, against other full professionals, under their belts.

I think some fans here are tempted to turn up their noses at this approach because Iowa isn't doing it yet, but we'll need to start doing it to keep up with the Joneses in the near future.
 

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I really hate this rule that anyone in the US and the world now can play pro ball and then play NCAA college bball. Isn't there an american player who did that this year?

There is a one and done rule plus now they get paid to play college plus their scholarship. Go pro you stay pro
every player whose name ends with Vic.
 

ComradeKirk

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To be fair, people play pro overseas very young. Wasn't Ricky Rubio a "pro" at 14?
Yes. Pro ball here and pro ball in Europe doesn't mean the same thing unless we're talking EuroLeauge, and even then the top half of the NBA is a significant cut above. They have S, A, B, C, etc tier competitions and a lot of these guys are playing in a C tier at the highest. There are a lot of non basketball reasons being classified as pro is beneficial overseas.

This isn't to say I am in favor of bring in younger euro pros, because I'm not. We are staring down the barrel of destroying our homegrown talent development allowing guys to go from professional back to "amateur." Hard to get the future Devil Curry when they don't get a path.
 
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Illinois is basically exploiting an oversight on the part of NCAA when it introduced NIL. It was harder to get these foreign players to leave home when there wasn't a big payday involved, now they can fill out a whole roster with them. Clever but also extremely effed and reduces opportunities for American kids to compete and develop at d1 level. Illinois has plenty of ballers in the Chicago area to pick from. There should be some kind of rule like the olympics where a college roster can only have 1 foreign born player on it.

You also shouldn't be able to tap a ball in on the rim or kick someone in the nuts 50 feet from the ball to stop a fast break, maybe the refs are European too, I didn't look it up.
 

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Illinois is basically exploiting an oversight on the part of NCAA when it introduced NIL. It was harder to get these foreign players to leave home when there wasn't a big payday involved, now they can fill out a whole roster with them. Clever but also extremely effed and reduces opportunities for American kids to compete and develop at d1 level. Illinois has plenty of ballers in the Chicago area to pick from. There should be some kind of rule like the olympics where a college roster can only have 1 foreign born player on it.

You also shouldn't be able to tap a ball in on the rim or kick someone in the nuts 50 feet from the ball to stop a fast break, maybe the refs are European too, I didn't look it up.

Why don't you just make some rule that whatever you think is not good for your team on any specific day is not allowed?

You shouldn't be able to tip a ball in? My god that has been happening as long as I have ever watched basketball.
 

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No I am not.

A college player in the US is making more than what these "Pros" are in Serbia.

And you are ignoring that many of our high school kids are Pros now.
If you don’t know the difference here, I can’t help you.
 

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Would you say a college “pro” player is the exact same as an NBA pro player?

We are not talking about NBA players.

We are talking about tiny leagues in small countries where players make less in a month than your average fast food worker makes a week.

Illinois has two European pro from SC Derby.

It's an under 19 team that's nickname literally translates to "Students."

Yea those big bad pros.
 
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We are not talking about NBA players.

We are talking about tiny leagues in small countries where players make less in a month than your average fast food worker makes a week.

Illinois has two European pro from SC Derby.

It's an under 19 team that's nickname literally translates to "Students."

Yea those big bad pros.
SC Derby is not a student athletic organization. It is a professional basketball team, whose nickname (as you said), translates to Students. They play in a professional basketball league. Same with the other foreign “pros” on the Illinois team. The amount of money they made over there is completely irrelevant.

And SC Derby is NOT an under 19 team. They have 1 17 year old, 1 18 year old, and 2 that are 19. The other 11 players range in age from 21-37. That’s right….37. They have another who is 31 and 2 who are 29.

Just because the American collegiate players get paid and are technically “professional” athletes, is NOT the same as these kids from Europe who played in professional basketball leagues.

I’m not going to change your mind, so there is no point arguing about it.
 
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SC Derby is not a student athletic organization. It is a professional basketball team, whose nickname (as you said), translates to Students. They play in a professional basketball league.
Also SC Derby isn’t even a U19 team, or we’d see it in the name. I’m sure they have a U19 team, but two thirds of the first team roster is older than 19. Also if they were U19 players they wouldn’t be considered professionals, even though they’ve signed a professional contract. Explaining European youth academy contracts and development systems to Jump seems like a tall ask.
 
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SC Derby is not a student athletic organization. It is a professional basketball team, whose nickname (as you said), translates to Students. They play in a professional basketball league. Same with the other foreign “pros” on the Illinois team. The amount of money they made over there is completely irrelevant.

And SC Derby is NOT an under 19 team. They have 1 17 year old, 1 18 year old, and 2 that are 19. The other 11 players range in age from 21-37. That’s right….37. They have another who is 31 and 2 who are 29.

Just because the American collegiate players get paid and are technically “professional” athletes, is NOT the same as these kids from Europe who played in professional basketball leagues.

I’m not going to change your mind, so there is no point arguing about it.

Also SC Derby isn’t even a U19 team, or we’d see it in the name. I’m sure they have a U19 team, but two thirds of the first team roster is older than 19. Also if they were U19 players they wouldn’t be considered professionals, even though they’ve signed a professional contract. Explaining European youth academy contracts and development systems to Jump seems like a tall ask.

Well my bad.

Doesn't change that Illinois got two kids from the big mean professional team from Montenegro.

I will admit I am wrong and realize that my after school job as a carver at Old Country Buffet means I am a professional chef and meat carver. I made more than them on 80s/90s child minimum wage than they did as a professional basketball player in the last few years.

I am a pro chef. Thanks for letting me know
 

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Well my bad.

Doesn't change that Illinois got two kids from the big mean professional team from Montenegro.

I will admit I am wrong and realize that my after school job as a carver at Old Country Buffet means I am a professional chef and meat carver. I made more than them on 80s/90s child minimum wage than they did as a professional basketball player in the last few years.

I am a pro chef. Thanks for letting me know
But if you did nothing but practice carving 5 days a week for 8 hours/day,then went to work carving 2 days, then went back to drilling on carving 5 more days to prepare for your work shift and did this for 4 years, you might be a pro carver.

That's what these guys do in Europe,drill for hour after hour,honing their fundamental skills. And of course that is only after they have shown great potential already at 13/14 yrs old.

Its like if Iowa co-opted the Iowa g- league team to play for Hawkeyes.
 

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Well my bad.

Doesn't change that Illinois got two kids from the big mean professional team from Montenegro.

I will admit I am wrong and realize that my after school job as a carver at Old Country Buffet means I am a professional chef and meat carver. I made more than them on 80s/90s child minimum wage than they did as a professional basketball player in the last few years.

I am a pro chef. Thanks for letting me know
I’m not saying that SC Derby is playing high level ball, but they are still professionals playing against grown a$$ men. Salary doesn’t matter, surely you’re smart enough to see that.

You should start selling your services as a pro chef with that experience. I’m sure there’s a big market for it.
 

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I really hate this rule that anyone in the US and the world now can play pro ball and then play NCAA college bball. Isn't there an american player who did that this year?

There is a one and done rule plus now they get paid to play college plus their scholarship. Go pro you stay pro
Iowa was essentially the ‘80 USA hockey team playing the Russians on Saturday…🥲
 

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Probably should quit watching college sports if you have a problem with players getting paid and playing college sports.
It has nothing to do with that. It has everything to do with constantly changing the rules to gain a competitive advantage. Once you open Pandora’s box, it’s very hard to close it. Pro players regardless of “where” were not allowed to play college sports, now that has changed. What don’t you understand about that?
 

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It has nothing to do with that. It has everything to do with constantly changing the rules to gain a competitive advantage. Once you open Pandora’s box, it’s very hard to close it. Pro players regardless of “where” were not allowed to play college sports, now that has changed. What don’t you understand about that?

I think it's great that kids that made a few thousand bucks when they were 17 are now allowed to pursue real opportunities that was cut off from them before.
 
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I think it's great that kids that made a few thousand bucks when they were 17 are now allowed to pursue real opportunities that was cut off from them before.
They wouldn’t have an opportunity to play in the G League or the NBA? Some of them absolutely could play in the G League. The issue is that with NIL money, college is becoming a more financially attractive option, which is pulling talent away from those paths. Maybe take a closer look at how the system actually works and then come back.
 
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Zach Jump

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They wouldn’t have an opportunity to play in the G League or the NBA? Some of them absolutely could play in the G League. The issue is that with NIL money, college is becoming a more financially attractive option, which is pulling talent away from those paths. Maybe take a closer look at how the system actually works and then come back.

I seem to understand the system way better than you.

A kid that plays professional in Montenegro is going to be making something like 500 bucks a month.

There is other perks...but it is a kid probably not taking free housing since the are a kid.

But if you did nothing but practice carving 5 days a week for 8 hours/day,then went to work carving 2 days, then went back to drilling on carving 5 more days to prepare for your work shift and did this for 4 years, you might be a pro carver.

That's what these guys do in Europe,drill for hour after hour,honing their fundamental skills. And of course that is only after they have shown great potential already at 13/14 yrs old.

Its like if Iowa co-opted the Iowa g- league team to play for Hawkeyes.


The adults in these leagues are not doing this full time. These pro basketball jobs are from passion, not income. They work first jobs to pay the bills.

I play in pool leagues. I sometimes actually make money from them. I am not a professional pool player.

I play poker tournaments. More often than not make some money from them. I am not a professional poker player

I still have a first job, for the rest iny spare time/vacations.

It's you all are that are not understanding the difference.