I would not care about a single player on this roster leaving

UKBB4Ever

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Please name me 1 coach in all of college BB that had 3 starters/key players not play because of injuries that would have a significant better record?
Probably 100 D1 coaches would have done better with this UK team than Pope.

The guy simply cannot coach.

Besides the total lack of game feel and flow there is no identity to his teams. No offensive identity. No defensive identity.

No game plan. No player development.

No strength and conditioning program.

Then throw quitting on top and you get the epic failure that we have.

These players were far better than they were coached. The players bailed Pope out many times.
 

UKCowboys

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Richie Saunders SR 18 ppg 6 right 2 app
Richie Saunders Soph 9.6 ppg 4 rpg 1 apg
Collin Chandler Soph 9.7 ppg 3 rpg 2 apg

RR: "We need a player like Richie Saunders!"
RR: "Get Collin Chandler out of here now!"

Prepare for PDS Spin.....
 
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JakeKx

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Been saying this all year. I literally hope every single one of these losers leave
 

SkyPrince

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Probably 100 D1 coaches would have done better with this UK team than Pope.

The guy simply cannot coach.

Besides the total lack of game feel and flow there is no identity to his teams. No offensive identity. No defensive identity.

No game plan. No player development.

No strength and conditioning program.

Then throw quitting on top and you get the epic failure that we have.

These players were far better than they were coached. The players bailed Pope out many times.
Definitely agree with last sentence.
UK's comebacks were basically abandoning any semblance of an offense and letting Oweh and Aberdeen " go make a play".
The Cal offense.
Chandler in most cases set up a foot or two behind the three point line where opponents were letting him take it.
He hit some big ones but you see what happened when coaches adjusted late in the season.
Pope couldn't get him open
 

Henogee1975

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My biggest complaint with Popes coaching was his substitution patterns. Like bringing in backups when a player is hot. DA was hot, then he brings in JJ. Total momentum killer.
 
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UKDC80

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Chandler is a guard that can’t dribble, Kam is a scoring wing that can’t score, Moreno is a 7 footer that can’t rebound, Jelavic is a stretch 4 that can’t shoot. I wouldn’t be mad at any of them leaving. Plenty of portal guys would be an upgrade
This! None of them are elite. NONE!
 
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Mossip

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Richie Saunders SR 18 ppg 6 right 2 app
Richie Saunders Soph 9.6 ppg 4 rpg 1 apg
Collin Chandler Soph 9.7 ppg 3 rpg 2 apg

RR: "We need a player like Richie Saunders!"
RR: "Get Collin Chandler out of here now!"

Prepare for PDS Spin.....
I’m not trying to really argue the point, but why does everybody assume Chandler and Saunders are the same player guaranteed to develop similarly? Because they are white Mormons?

Chandler can’t dribble and has zero court vision. His ceiling is super low with his deficiencies. Did Saunders have a summer of incredible ball handling and court vision improvement? Was Pope around for it?
 

NociHTTP

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They were trying to play a role that was too much for them. Collin Chandler is not a "lead" type player. He is a 6th or 7th man type player. Aberdeen is not a PG. Moreno was forced into minutes he wasn't ready for. Pope and company was dumb enogh to think that JQ would be totally healed and able to play this year. It takes bigs longer to heal fromt eh ACL than most. Oweh was Oweh. Jelivic isn't ready for this level yet either.
Keep trying. I bet you thought your geometry teacher was picking on you. "Obtuse....."
 

UKCowboys

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I’m not trying to really argue the point, but why does everybody assume Chandler and Saunders are the same player guaranteed to develop similarly? Because they are white Mormons?

Chandler can’t dribble and has zero court vision. His ceiling is super low with his deficiencies. Did Saunders have a summer of incredible ball handling and court vision improvement? Was Pope around for it?
I am guessing you are about 25 and only know the Cal One and Done method. All these teams that have won Championships the last several years with experienced kids instead of McDonald's All Americans....those Jr's and Srs improved greatly from their first two years. Thats how it works my man
 

Mossip

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I’m 42 and “just how it works” is not the kinda basketball analysis I put much stock into. You didn’t address any of my points except to try to minimize me.

Chandler is 22 and still looks down at the ball to dribble. He’s got some glaring weaknesses for a starting sg
 
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Mossip

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Just so we’re clear, I want Chandler to stay—as a bench piece. I like the kid and think he can give us quality minutes and go on some heaters from 3 to help us win certain matchups.
 

catfanlou

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My biggest complaint with Popes coaching was his substitution patterns. Like bringing in backups when a player is hot. DA was hot, then he brings in JJ. Total momentum killer.
Agree and would add that he subbed like a church league. best five should play unless tired or in foul trouble. if They get fatigued even with all of the TV timeouts you either have the wrong players or have failed in your
Man....do have any idea what a disgrace to BBN you are?
 

UKCowboys

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I’m 42 and “just how it works” is not the kinda basketball analysis I put much stock into. You didn’t address any of my points except to try to minimize me.

Chandler is 22 and still looks down at the ball to dribble. He’s got some glaring weaknesses for a starting sg
Such a ridiculous take for a 42 year old SMH
 
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Richie Saunders SR 18 ppg 6 right 2 app
Richie Saunders Soph 9.6 ppg 4 rpg 1 apg
Collin Chandler Soph 9.7 ppg 3 rpg 2 apg

RR: "We need a player like Richie Saunders!"
RR: "Get Collin Chandler out of here now!"

Prepare for PDS Spin.....

Yeah but most of the time that's the exception not the rule.

Most players are what they are.

Not that I want Chandler out of here. He's a good player. I just don't see him ever avging 18 a game.
 
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UKCowboys

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Yeah but most of the time that's the exception not the rule.

Most players are what they are.

Not that I want Chandler out of here. He's a good player. I just don't see him ever avging 18 a game.
Simply not true. I can post a hundred players that averaged 8-9 as a sophomore and were all conference-all American as SRs with double the points and boards
 

Goingfor9

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Please name me 1 coach in all of college BB that had 3 starters/key players not play because of injuries that would have a significant better record?
Losing has its way of bringing out injuries. I mean, I’m just saying you really believe that JQ couldn’t play but next month he’s gonna hit the combines? I have my doubts about Lowe as well when that injury actually occurred. I mean, I will pretty much just like figure on 2-3 guys a year quitting from here on out and just the nature of NIL they get paid, and then they become afraid to be exposed. I ain’t used to spend people here swearing up down up and down that Lowe’s is a two-year contract, blah blah blah man that dude it’s been gone since the day he decided to have his elective surgery. I watch teams in NCAA with injuries plenty I mean Duke was without two of their top guys for the first couple games. Kentucky’s the team that never can overcome everyone has injuries becomes like the perpetual excuse in injuries and referees. In reality, there’s no excuse. It’s just poor. Poor decisions for play for preparation. Pops are very disorganized coach I’m afraid of anyone who goes and plays for Pope Probably does so knowing that he’s soft so the level of mental toughness and these guys has decreased, I mean this is probably going to find Pope Kentucky. Head case players like Kerr like Lowe. They came to make money that’s it.

On the positive side, I was impressed with how Diabaté changed his game. He was injured. He could’ve played that thing out for weeks and weeks or had more injury and he didn’t. Chandler was never injured nor Moreno or our most physical play player Oweh. Toughness between the ears one guy may not be able to play with that shoulder problem. One another guy uses it for fuel. I think we can speak our mind out seasons over these guys are transferring or going to the NBA where their guys are on last year‘s team Jackson Robinson, for instance he kinda reminds me of Low a little bit another guy with elective surgery.
 
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Chandler is what he is IMO.

I mean it's not to say guys don't improve or get better but very rarely do you see guys just take off.

If he stays the entire time, sure we'll hear about these epic practices before the season about how much better they look..........only for the season to begin and them to be..........exactly what they were previously lol.
 
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Not the point

I'm sorry..........you just can't post something comparing Chandler's stats with Saunders and conclude anything lol.
It's more likely Chandler does exactly what he's done in his entire career going forward than..........not.

Again I want Chandler to stay here but I'm not expecting more than 10 ppg next season if he does.

Relying on guys making vast improvements i think was what failed us this season. Everyone thought Oweh was going to be this superstar player instead of just being a very solid player.

I'm just saying I'm not banking on Chandler becoming some all star here.
 
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UKCowboys

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I'm sorry..........you just can't post something comparing Chandler's stats with Saunders and conclude anything lol.
It's more likely Chandler does exactly what he's done in his entire career going forward than..........not.

Again I want Chandler to stay here but I'm not expecting more than 10 ppg next season if he does.

Relying on guys making vast improves i think was what failed us this season. Everyone thought Oweh was going to be this superstar player instead of just being a very solid player.

I'm just saying I'm not banking on Chandler becoming some all start here.
Agree to disagree
 

NociHTTP

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I was actually good in geometry.But I would love to hear your take on the matter. Better yet, keep it to yourself, I'm sure it would make no sense.
Your ratio suggests you can't even circle around to a point, so yeah, you wouldn't understand anything.
 

Blue till I die

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Kam
Chandler
Moreno
Hawthorne
Mo

That is 5 great bench players

Keep as many of them as possible and go get 5 starters, 2 or 3 of which will eventually play in the NBA

That's how you get a Final Four team
 

Ukdaddy98

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I so bad want to be positive, but I have a bad feeling about next year.

Unless some minor miracles occur, I think a losing season is looming… looking for a new coach next March.

Hope I’m dead wrong!
 

UK_Kelly

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There's your troll post for the year.
I’m not sure what product you’re looking at on the floor???? If you think any of this years players are UK material then I don’t know what to say. You can be critical, honest and still be a fan. Are you a participation trophy guy???