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How did Florida lose to this Iowa team?

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I'm not saying Iowa is terrible. They may well win this game tonight and go to the Final Four (its tied with 8-minutes to go as I write this.)

But they are not elite at anything, really -- not athletic, one good shooter, don't really rebound that well, not great size. They are well coached.

That smirky little turd Todd Golden may be a lot more humble after this tournament. He was outcoached by a guy in his first year as a major conference head coach.
 
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MD, it’s funny you mention this as I was just talking to my brother-in-law about that today, I did not see the Iowa-Florida game. Did you see it by chance? Or whoever did, how the hell did they beat them? (I certainly know how it ended, but how did it get to that?)
 
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MdWIldcat55 said:
I'm not saying Iowa is terrible. They may well win this game tonight and go to the Final Four (its tied with 8-minutes to go as I write this.)

But they are not elite at anything, really -- not athletic, one good shooter, don't really rebound that well, not great size.

That smirky little turd Todd Golden may be a lot more humble after this tournament.
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Florida was a terrible shooting team. I said after they beat us in the SEC Tournament that they wouldn't be winning either tournament with that shooting.
 
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What it shows is that if McCollum ever gets NBa level talent he’s gonna be a boss.
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I don’t think he’ll need it. He’s a great teacher of the game and motivator similar to Hurley.

But he’s certainly going to get better players once Stirtz goes from an unknown to a first rounder.
 
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Because Iowa was a decent team this season lol.
Same reason why UF lost to TCU, Missouri and Auburn.

Things happen in a one and done tournament. We just got one tournament last season where all 1 seeds made it but that's typically an outlier and frankly they were always the most likely of the 1s to fall.
 
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MdWIldcat55 said:
. He was outcoached by a guy in his first year as a major conference head coach.
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Do you know anything about that "first year major conference head coach." He's extremely well known in basketball circles and has won big everywhere. You act like he's some complete unknown. He won 4 DII titles and has a career 81% winning percentage. If you can coach, you can coach
 
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billCgmx_ said:
1 - It's a one and done tournament.
2 - SEC was overrated?
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No. 1.......yes. 2.......no.

The SEC top to bottom was still very good this year. You could definitely say that the Big 10 had way more title contenders this season compared to the SEC but top to bottom I'd still argue we were just as good if not better.
 
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TALtruthatlast said:
MD, it’s funny you mention this as I was just talking to my brother-in-law about that today, I did not see the Iowa-Florida game. Did you see it by chance? Or whoever did, how the hell did they beat them? (I certainly know how it ended, but how did it get to that?)
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Florida was motivated and had fire when they played us in the SEC tournament. After that, they seemed flat and seemed like they wanted to just coast to a win against Vandy and Vandy took them to the woodshed, Golden looked like a lost puppy on the sideline. You would think that would have motivated them but it really didn't. Iowa took the game to them and that kept it close.

With Florida up by 2 in the final seconds against Iowa, Golden told his players to foul. As a result, the Florida players were chasing the Iowa players up the floor and gave up a wide open 3. Poor coaching, over confident team, lack of focus, etc did Florida in.
 
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preacherfan said:
Florida was motivated and had fire when they played us in the SEC tournament. After that, they seemed flat and seemed like they wanted to just coast to a win against Vandy and Vandy took them to the woodshed, Golden looked like a lost puppy on the sideline. You would think that would have motivated them but it really didn't. Iowa took the game to them and that kept it close.

With Florida up by 2 in the final seconds against Iowa, Golden told his players to foul. As a result, the Florida players were chasing the Iowa players up the floor and gave up a wide open 3. Poor coaching, over confident team, lack of focus, etc did Florida in.
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Surely not! I read it right here that Golden was the best coach in the country! Fact of the matter is, and I’ve said it since last season, he had Clayton and nobody else did. That’s the ONLY reason they won it last year. He’ll never win another one at Florida. Take it to the bank!
 
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preacherfan said:
Florida was motivated and had fire when they played us in the SEC tournament. After that, they seemed flat and seemed like they wanted to just coast to a win against Vandy and Vandy took them to the woodshed, Golden looked like a lost puppy on the sideline. You would think that would have motivated them but it really didn't. Iowa took the game to them and that kept it close.

With Florida up by 2 in the final seconds against Iowa, Golden told his players to foul. As a result, the Florida players were chasing the Iowa players up the floor and gave up a wide open 3. Poor coaching, over confident team, lack of focus, etc did Florida in.
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Yeah we're their Super Bowl 🙄
 
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MdWIldcat55 said:
I'm not saying Iowa is terrible. They may well win this game tonight and go to the Final Four (its tied with 8-minutes to go as I write this.)

But they are not elite at anything, really -- not athletic, one good shooter, don't really rebound that well, not great size. They are well coached.

That smirky little turd Todd Golden may be a lot more humble after this tournament. He was outcoached by a guy in his first year as a major conference head coach.
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Iowa scored more points
 
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preacherfan said:
Roll your eyes all you want to but we all saw the fire and motivation against UK. To them, it was personal. Then they went flat. You cannot deny the clear facts. Having said that, i never said that we were their Super Bowl, you did.
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How do you know that "to them it was personal"? So they had more "fire and motivation" in an SECT quarterfinal game than in the semifinal game? Makes a lot of sense. They just got beat by a better team that day
 
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SECHonk said:
How do you know that "to them it was personal"? So they had more "fire and motivation" in an SECT quarterfinal game than in the semifinal game? Makes a lot of sense. They just got beat by a better team that day
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How many game did UK play this year and posters talked about how they didn't have that energy and passion we all want to see from our players? For example, we were a defeated team in the first Vandy game, weren't we? It was obvious. The second Vandy game was completely different. We all know this is true because we saw it on the court.

I saw the passion Florida had when they played us. I saw the lack of passion Florida had when they played Vandy the next day. It really is that simple.

So, serious question: Do you believe that every single time UK lost this year it was ONLY because they got beat by a better team that day? It had nothing to do with coming out with fire and determination? If so, you may be the only one.
 
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preacherfan said:
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So, serious question: Do you believe that every single time UK lost this year it was ONLY because they got beat by a better team that day? It had nothing to do with coming out with fire and determination?
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Yep that's the way it works. Not sure what's hard to understand about that.
 
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MdWIldcat55 said:
I'm not saying Iowa is terrible. They may well win this game tonight and go to the Final Four (its tied with 8-minutes to go as I write this.)

But they are not elite at anything, really -- not athletic, one good shooter, don't really rebound that well, not great size. They are well coached.

That smirky little turd Todd Golden may be a lot more humble after this tournament. He was outcoached by a guy in his first year as a major conference head coach.
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The better team does not always win!
If Iowa and Florida were to play 10 times, Florida wins at least 7, probably 8, maybe even 9 of them. Just not that 1.
That is why people saying Team X beat Team Y, and Team Y beat Team Z, so Team X must be better than Team Z, is stupid.

But matchups are also a factor.
 
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SECHonk said:
Yep that's the way it works. Not sure what's hard to understand about that.
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Ohhh, I understand it just fine. Believe it or not, I don't expect everyone to agree with me any more than I agree with them. I do expect people to be consistent. I hope to see you next season in one of those threads in which the team is being trashed for lack of effort letting them know that they are mistaken. I actually like it when we hear the contrarian voice once in a while.
 
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Ohhh, I understand it just fine. Believe it or not, I don't expect everyone to agree with me any more than I agree with them. I do expect people to be consistent. I hope to see you next season in one of those threads in which the team is being trashed for lack of effort letting them know that they are mistaken. I actually like it when we hear the contrarian voice once in a while.
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Except that's not what you were saying. You were basically making that nonsensical "we're everybody's Super Bowl" argument and that Florida was more motivated in an SEC QF game against a completely mediocre UK team and less so on the SF game against Vandy. The argument that teams "shoot their load because they're extra motivated for UK" is nonsensical currently. Hasn't been true for years
 
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Except that's not what you were saying. You were basically making that nonsensical "we're everybody's Super Bowl" argument and that Florida was more motivated in an SEC QF game against a completely mediocre UK team and less so on the SF game against Vandy. The argument that teams "shoot their load because they're extra motivated for UK" is nonsensical currently. Hasn't been true for years
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It has been on this board a lot that there is some kind of bad blood between Golden and Pope. Some attributed it to us taking DA. Like it or not, it is there. Like it or not, Florida had a swag when they played us. They were flat and seemingly unmotivated against Vandy. I don't why this bothers you so much.

Even when we are down, teams still want to take UK down. It has always been that way. So that is your history lesson for the day.
 
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megablue said:
SEC was a balanced league with no great teams.
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I dunno UF did earn a 1 seed. So they were a title contender.

I've always been of the opinion tho that people really need to consider ALL TEAMS when talking about what the best conference was. It seems like very often we only look at teams that made the tournament or the top teams in each.

I still maintain top to bottom we were as good if not better than the Big 10..........despite the Big 10 having more title contenders. The Big 10 had some truly terrible teams that dragged them down........Rutgers, Oregon, Penn St, Maryland, USC, Minn.

You just didn't see that in the SEC. Miss St and South Carolina had bad numbers....but the rest of the league was formidable
 
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