Wildfire in Carroll county

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My Olive Baptist Church in that area along with several houses.
Already an area hit by a tornado a few years ago that destroyed a very beautiful and old Methodist Church along with a very old schoolhouse.
 

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South MS/LA is under a Red Flag Warning for wildfires. Saturday will be breezy and 20-25% humidity. Nice weather but also dangerous for wildfires.
 

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Most of the state under the red flag warning, but with the winds and seeing dust bowl type situations in northwest corner of the state today. Nobody needs to light a cigarette and throw it or the match down anywhere in this state right now.
 
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I’m looking at my onx hunting app that picks up hot spots based on satellite…. And it looks about 7-8 miles south of 82. Just east of highway 17 and near county road 145.
I heard from them, not close to their home. Thanks for the reply.
 
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Maybe some of you foresters can chime in. It seems like wildfires in the Pacific Northwest and Canada were due to lack of harvesting lumber, biomass buildup due to conifer needles and dead trees, lack of understory. Do we just have too much moisture normally down here to not have wildfires often? I see control burns on the Natchez Trace that keep the leaf litter down and the trees survive and new understory promotes wildlife. I often think about box turtles in a fire, but maybe that's just me.
 
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Maybe some of you foresters can chime in. It seems like wildfires in the Pacific Northwest and Canada were due to lack of harvesting lumber, biomass buildup due to conifer needles and dead trees, lack of understory. Do we just have too much moisture normally down here to not have wildfires often? I see control burns on the Natchez Trace that keep the leaf litter down and the trees survive and new understory promotes wildlife. I often think about box turtles in a fire, but maybe that's just me.
It’s because we are in an over winter drought that has only gotten worse and we haven’t had significant rains in the last two months. That’s pretty unusual for Mississippi because the February to April stretch is usually very wet.

 

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Maybe some of you foresters can chime in. It seems like wildfires in the Pacific Northwest and Canada were due to lack of harvesting lumber, biomass buildup due to conifer needles and dead trees, lack of understory. Do we just have too much moisture normally down here to not have wildfires often? I see control burns on the Natchez Trace that keep the leaf litter down and the trees survive and new understory promotes wildlife. I often think about box turtles in a fire, but maybe that's just me.
Fire ecology in the mountain west is completely different. You would need 5,000,000 volunteers to train up on prescribed burning to even begin to make a dent based on how short the windows are to actually safely burn each year. Harvesting timber is also completely different. It's ridiculous harder

The reality is wildfires are good for the forest. They have happened for millions of years and are part of the natural cycle. We try to prevent them now but it's throwing a hotdog at a grizzly bear in the West. There's absolutely nothing practical we can do other than listen to smoky and prevent all the fires started by humans to curb fires in the West.

Weather is 1000x more important than prescribed burns or increased lumber harvesting for fires. See my thread on this year's snowpack.
 

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Unless you live there a$$hole !
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Maybe some of you foresters can chime in. It seems like wildfires in the Pacific Northwest and Canada were due to lack of harvesting lumber, biomass buildup due to conifer needles and dead trees, lack of understory. Do we just have too much moisture normally down here to not have wildfires often? I see control burns on the Natchez Trace that keep the leaf litter down and the trees survive and new understory promotes wildlife. I often think about box turtles in a fire, but maybe that's just me.
It is abnormally dry right now. We haven’t fully greened up outside yet. Low humidity, high winds. All three are what’s happening right now.

Also as compared to out west, we have many many more roads and it makes it easier to fight the fires here versus out there. We can usually get them put out fairly quickly here.
 

DAWGSANDSAINTS

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Great news, the fire is out, no homes lost, no injuries.

Somehow, i was an Ahole for pointing out it was in a sparsely populated area.
Anyone that knows Carroll County south of Hwy 82 knows it’s sparsely.
There are still homes and trailers and pine forests dotted throughout that area
and you own a home or timber and if a large wildfire is raging and headed in your direction, it’s a Huge deal!
 

greenbean.sixpack

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Anyone that knows Carroll County south of Hwy 82 knows it’s sparsely.
There are still homes and trailers and pine forests dotted throughout that area
and you own a home or timber and if a large wildfire is raging and headed in your direction, it’s a Huge deal!
No one was making a point that it wasn't a big deal. Just pointing out it was in a sparsely populated area. Had it threatened Carrollton or Vaiden, that would have been a different situation. The containment strategy was likely based on the fire not threatening larger population centers.

On a related note, in the 80s, it seemed that controlled burns of private property were more common, this likely deceased the chances of wildfire. I have a couple of different parcels of deer hunting land in Carroll County, it would do them good to get burned, but I'm too scared to do it.
 

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No one was making a point that it wasn't a big deal. Just pointing out it was in a sparsely populated area. Had it threatened Carrollton or Vaiden, that would have been a different situation. The containment strategy was likely based on the fire not threatening larger population centers.

On a related note, in the 80s, it seemed that controlled burns of private property were more common, this likely deceased the chances of wildfire. I have a couple of different parcels of deer hunting land in Carroll County, it would do them good to get burned, but I'm too scared to do it.
It doesn’t matter if it’s sparsely populated if you happen to live there.
 

greenbean.sixpack

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No, just happened to have folks that lived near the area you said was sparsely populated. If I’m stupid, and I probably am, you are heartless.
Sparsely populated vs densely populated is the difference between no homes lost or injuries vs dozens of deaths and hundreds of homes lost. No one claimed either is a good thing, but a disaster (tornado, fire, hurricane, etc.) hitting a sparsely populated area generally does much less damage to humans/homes/property than hitting a densely populated area.

That I have to draw a map for you is embarrassing.
 

L4Dawg

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Sparsely populated vs densely populated is the difference between no homes lost or injuries vs dozens of deaths and hundreds of homes lost. No one claimed either is a good thing, but a disaster (tornado, fire, hurricane, etc.) hitting a sparsely populated area generally does much less damage to humans/homes/property than hitting a densely populated area.

That I have to draw a map for you is embarrassing.
Population density doesn’t matter if you happen to be the one place in the path of a disaster. I thought for a while I had relatives in just that situation for that fire. You are heartless if you can’t understand that. The thing is you are doubling down on being a jerk about it. You have expressed no empathy at all for those ”sparsely populated” folks who could have easily been in the path of that fire. Ho hum, just idiots who happen to live in the sticks. Who cares, right?
 

greenbean.sixpack

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Population density doesn’t matter if you happen to be the one place in the path of a disaster. I thought for a while I had relatives in just that situation for that fire. You are heartless if you can’t understand that. The thing is you are doubling down on being a jerk about it. You have expressed no empathy at all for those ”sparsely populated” folks who could have easily been in the path of that fire. Ho hum, just idiots who happen to live in the sticks. Who cares, right?
Good gosh almighty you are stupid. No one said anything about not having empathy, that's my home county and I have friends who had smoke so thick they couldn't see outside. They would all tell you they would have rather had the fire there (Big Hungry) - where very few people were in harm's way - than in Carrollton. Why you can't understand that while no one wants any disaster anywhere, it's better when a disaster hits parsley populated areas.
 

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Good gosh almighty you are stupid. No one said anything about not having empathy, that's my home county and I have friends who had smoke so thick they couldn't see outside. They would all tell you they would have rather had the fire there (Big Hungry) - where very few people were in harm's way - than in Carrollton. Why you can't understand that while no one wants any disaster anywhere, it's better when a disaster hits parsley populated areas.
You continue to show zero empathy for some poor soul that Might have lived in the threatened area.. As I said, I have family that lives there, NOW. They were scared for a bit. You obviously could care less. Hopefully you are never personally threatened by a natural disaster. It changes your perspective. I’ve had it happen multiple times now, to me and through close family. It’s stupid to feel for people in harms way is it? That is a very telling perspective. It’s all about you obviously.
 

greenbean.sixpack

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You continue to show zero empathy for some poor soul that Might have lived in the threatened area.. As I said, I have family that lives there, NOW. They were scared for a bit. You obviously could care less. Hopefully you are never personally threatened by a natural disaster. It changes your perspective. I’ve had it happen multiple times now, to me and through close family. It’s stupid to feel for people in harms way is it? That is a very telling perspective. It’s all about you obviously.
haha, you either have a great sense of humor, or are the dumbest MFer this board (which is a high bar). Either way, well played.
 

L4Dawg

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@L4Dawg holy shít man, all he said was it was sparsely populated. You’re making this into a bigger deal than it is.
I happen to have relatives that live in that sparsely populated area. It WAS a big deal to us. Thank God it missed them. He basically dismissed them as unimportant because they live in a “sparsely populated area.“ Come on Desoto you are a decent guy, you have to understand why his take pissed me off.