same and one's dad is EMT for one of the largest companies in ny
OT: Anyone else think Rutgers is absurdly expensive?
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It’s always someone you know. Very rarely it’s your kids.
My point was there is nothing wrong with that. Too many kids are taught that if you don’t go to college you are a failure. That simply is not true.
I think that 20-30% of college students shouldn’t be there with students that were 2.0 grade students in high school getting into colleges.
Don’t think anyone was debating that. My point is that most on here wouldn’t push their kids to go to trades and their kids wouldn’t voluntarily go that route.
Reddit is HUUUUGE and if you know what you're doing you can discover real nuggest there. That's why Google bought it for AI data. I go to a microbiome forum that has researchers that are tip top. Car stuff, history, photos and posts right from war zone or large events will get you things MSM wont have. Of course it pays to be wary of the agitprop but the photos and video aren't AI as a rule.
Boomers got that treatment. Around time of JFK a college education was held-up and a key to heaven. trades were really looked down on. Then they got guys like McNamara to pop that Ivy League balloon. América was going to solve poverty and disease and wars with college grads out front. Then they made things worse. Pride goes before a fall and all that.
My 34 YO son grand from Rowan. He's just finished his 6th ARBnB to rent and has a Senior Supply Chain job at Church and Dwight making 150k.
Harvard could charge $1,000,000 per year and fill its freshman class. Lots of rich families around the world would pay it for bragging rights.
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That’s cheap compared to how much they have to donate to get a look.
At those schools is all about the connections that you make (or your parents make for you). I'm close to a Princeton / Harvard PhD worth in excess of $100M (probably closer to $500M). He was the real deal in HS and college, but the big break for him was a friend who recommended for a job (I'm not going to say where). He was never after money and would have been happy simply doing his thing (Big data analytics). Another close friend also from an IVY, majored in Comparative Literature, took a part time job in the city with a Real Estate Developer to pay for beer on the weekends, learned the business in 1 year and is now one of the biggest in the industry, and yes, in NYC.
I’m not sure that can happen again today. Even the Ivy kids need to be better prepared. Companies are not willing to start from scratch to train you. Ofc being a client’s kid certainly helps.
Another blue collar job that pays well are corrections officers. I hear the recruiting commercials after 5 years $105,000 but 5 years from now probably $110,000. Police officers make $130,000 not including the OT and retire after 20 years at 50% their salary.
Does raise the issue the trades advocates pretend to overlook:some blue collar jobs are not so great for your safety, health and/or overall quality of life. Which is why parents tend to push kids toward other paths.
To refocus this post, my daughter was accepted to and had enrolled at Mason Gross. I’m about send my 4th child through Rutgers. Couldn’t be happier with her choice. The value is amazing. Other choices would have been a greater impact for a lesser education. So proud that my wife and I will have all four of my children as alumni of our alma mater.
My class had 22 & by month 6 there were 2 left & we both retired after 30 years
There is no motivation to try and keep expenses and salaries reasonable when you can just hike tuition and fees plus get greater government funding. In the last 30 years, college costs have outpaced inflation by 300%.
Eventually the high education bubble will burst.
It’s been one of the most predictable economic tragedies for years as the pace is unsustainable and AI/robots will further reduce the actual value of a college degree.
Rutgers is expensive but the value for the cost is still reasonable.
Northwestern, Michigan, Vanderbilt, Cornell, and other schools charging $80K and more every year for marginal returns ln the degree are in for a rude awakening.
Previous poster already stated the reason RU tuition is going up is because government funding is down. Not sure where you are getting the greater government funding.
Not sure I agree with your list. There are plenty of schools that have poor return on investment but the schools you listed are not them.
starting salary in finance is low 100k plus bonuses. Plenty of kids from those schools are being targeted.
I went to one of them undergrad and soon they’ll cost $500K For a four year undergrad.
For some students it will be worth it but the median salaries do not justify the cost.
We’re hitting some breaking points as a country and insane inflation for college tuition is one of them.
A cop in the burbs can make good money for a fairly safe job. But to get one of those jobs is more about who you know.
I think only about 15% pay sticker price. It seems like everyone is getting discounts or grants or scholarships which make everyone happy paying for the overprice education.
True, at my health club, there was a young white male with good communication skills that graduated college and I asked him why he was working there at the reception desk. He wanted to become a police officer and I guess waiting for the right opportunity.
I went to Rutgers in the late 70s when tuition had skyrocketed to a whopping $320 per semester. With minimum wage around $2.50 an hour, I paid for college by working 50 hours a week over the summer and over winter and spring breaks and easily paid for college and had a reasonable amount of spending money.
With college costs soaring I worry that college may no longer be a good investment for my grandchildren especially if they want to go into silly majors. I also worry that colleges seem more interested in indoctrination and uniformity than critical thinking and development of skills that will help their careers.
What do you mean by indoctrination and uniformity? My oldest is in college and I feel like it’s a white collar trade school.
Sounds great what college and what major? I’m guessing not gender studies or art history.
What type of field of work does a graduate with a BA in Gender Studies pursue?
Same question for Art History, but probably something at a museum or perhaps teaching art in elementary or high school?