I bet Pope using Cal's last 4 years to promote his "progress" pissed Cal off.

UKGrad24

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I said the one thing that Pope hasn’t done is lower standards and I gave him credit for that. Welp, he just did it. ā€œBetter than last 4ā€ is not what he was hired to do. He was hired to come in and put an end to Calipari’s mess and he created his own.

Pope is now in lower the bar phase just like his supporters are doing to run for cover because the guy cannot do this job. And he and they will continue to do so. The ā€œcoaches won’t comeā€ ā€œcherry picked dates to make it look worseā€ crowds need to pack it in and leave with the guy when he’s fired this next season.
 

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I don't know about Cal but it pissed me off. Cal's last few years' record was why we wanted him gone so being marginally better doesn't cut it, especially when things are trending downward.
Yea if marginally better then Calipari’s last 4 is why he was hired we just would have rolled with Calipari and protected the legacy and went Jim Boeheim. Hell Calipari had the ability to produce with recruiting any minute.

And why 4? Why not 5? Because there was an elite 8 if you say 5. Classic logical fallacy designed to change the facts and create your own timeframe for support. Seems as smart as he is he needs an intro to philosophy course.

He’s not here to take a sht sandwich, ignore the lobster from the meal before, and piss in the bread to call it easier eat. Get the guy out.
 

Beatle Bum

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And I wouldn't be surprised if he goes and takes any recruits Pope even contemplates landing.

Nobody does petty like Coach Cal. And nobody is ripe to be a victim like Mark Pope.
But was he wrong? In those 4 years was Cal constantly battling injuries to his key players and starters? I wish Pope had not made that reveal, but was he wrong?
 

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Pope is spiraling right now, honestly at this point, I don’t believe a word he says anymore, he’s desperate in clinging to his new lifestyle and salary, he’ll go the route of Tubby’s last few years, soften the out of conference schedule to pad his stats a bit and then get beat down in the tournament.
 

Beatle Bum

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Pope is spiraling right now, honestly at this point, I don’t believe a word he says anymore, he’s desperate in clinging to his new lifestyle and salary, he’ll go the route of Tubby’s last few years, soften the out of conference schedule to pad his stats a bit and then get beat down in the tournament.
But, WAS HE WRONG? It’s factual. Either he was wrong or right, regardless of whether or not you believe him.
 

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Yea if marginally better then Calipari’s last 4 is why he was hired we just would have rolled with Calipari and protected the legacy and went Jim Boeheim. Hell Calipari had the ability to produce with recruiting any minute.

And why 4? Why not 5? Because there was an elite 8 if you say 5. Classic logical fallacy designed to change the facts and create your own timeframe for support. Seems as smart as he is he needs an intro to philosophy course.

He’s not here to take a sht sandwich, ignore the lobster from the meal before, and piss in the bread to call it easier eat. Get the guy out.
Why not 3? You had to go to 4 to include the 9–16 season just to get marginally better, otherwise we are marginally worse than the previous 3. I have already reached the point I don’t like pope, not as a coach, and not as person as I have no respect for the man. He’s a useless tool who is milking the university like stoops did. He knows he’s in over his head and if he doesn’t he is not half as smart as he claims to be.
 

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But was he wrong? In those 4 years was Cal constantly battling injuries to his key players and starters? I wish Pope had not made that reveal, but was he wrong?
Yes he was wrong because it was a cherry picked stat. If he had used 3 years or 5 years as a barometer then the same claim cannot be made. I could not stand Cal, now pope is right there with him in that regard. Pope can coach maybe slightly better than cal but considering cal can’t coach that’s not a compliment but cal can recruit his *** off to make up for it. Pope is the worst recruiter we have ever seen in our history and there isn’t a close 2nd.
 

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ā€œBetter than the last fourā€ reminds me of the graphics during games that show that a player is only the second player in history other than Wilt Chamberlain to have 17 points, 7 rebounds, 3 assists, and 4 fouls in a game after being traded on a Tuesday.
 

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Meh, Calipari’s like, I’ll call your Sour Grapes, and raise you Jordan Smith Jr., ya goofy schmuck!šŸ˜‚
 
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I'm down on Pope. I don't have faith in him. I think he is in way over his head. With that being my current frame of mind, I'm trying to make sure every little thing he does isn't met with confirmation bias as to the aforementioned, BUT, it does seem to me that he is reeling big time right now. He is compounding a terrible season with excuses. Stoops used to just say the old mantra "we'll get back to work". It would do Pope some good to sort of copy that right now and just say "this is unacceptable. We must do better. We're not meeting the standard but I plan to change that" and then just leave it alone.
 

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But was he wrong? In those 4 years was Cal constantly battling injuries to his key players and starters? I wish Pope had not made that reveal, but was he wrong?
Yes, he is wrong. He is terrible. Cal's last year he had all 3 centers out. Cal had just as many injuries as Pope. Pope is just trying to cover is backside.

2019-20 Nate Sestina- Broken Wrist, EJ Montgomery- Ankle, Immanuel Quickley- Chest
2020-21 Terrence Clarke- ankle, Keion Brooks- calf
2021-22 Savir Wheeler- ankle/shoulder, C.J. Frederick- cracked ribs/broken finger, Jacob Toppin- shoulder/ankle
2022-23 Cason Wallace- back/ankle, Oscar Tshiebwe-knee surgery
2023-24 Bradshaw- foot, Onyenso-foot, Plus Ivisic - ncaa eligibility issues

So Cal dealt with issues too. It is part of the game. Iowa State came up with a game plan pretty fast. It is a shame Pope did not have more time to design an offense for right handed players. What a fraud.
 
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But was he wrong? In those 4 years was Cal constantly battling injuries to his key players and starters? I wish Pope had not made that reveal, but was he wrong?
When you’re playing the first game of the entire conference tournament you have an opportunity for two wins before a team with the double bye even plays. A fair comparison would be has he advanced past the quarterfinals? That would be improvement over Cal’s last four years and the answer is no.

Also as others have mentioned he couldn’t compare Cal’s last 2, 3, or 5 years because it would be wrong then. Only 4 worked and it was cherry picked for that reason. It’s like when people say, ā€œhow many titles has Kentucky won since 2000?ā€ Why stop at 2000? They want to omit the 96 and 98 titles. Same stuff here by Pope. Why compare your two to his last four? Oh because that’s the only way it true
 
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We were a half court last second heave to force overtime against Santa clara. They haven't been to the tournament since Steve nash. Yea buddy it's better than Cals first round exit. A last second miracle three better lol. Good on you Popester. Hope he told Oweh thanks.
 

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I’m still puzzled by the choices of stats CMP shared. (And it makes me wonder about the methodology used for in-game analytics, like when to make substitutions, etc….)

To clearly dig at Cal was not wise, considering Cal is still in the dance, coaching in his second straight Sweet 16. And won this year’s SEC Tournament. We all are aware of how dire the post-seasons were from 2021-2024, but to say we’re making progress this year leaves me with few words when we won one NCAA tournament game (barely) and then got blown out the next, but last year made the Sweet 16.

Although the lack of post-season wins and all the drama behind the scenes drove a wedge between Cal and the BBN, it is unwise to make the comparisons Pope did, considering Cal’s exceptional overall record (2020-21 excluded, the last several years had ā€œgoodā€ regular seasons by most standards; it was the lack of post-season wins that broke the camel’s back).

This is Pope’s record at UK
Pope’s First Year: 2024-2025
24-12
Ended the Year Ranked 18 in the AP Poll
1 SEC Tournament Win
2 NCAA Tournament Wins, Lost in Sweet 16

Pope’s Second Year: 2026-2026
22-14
Ended the Year Unranked
2 SEC Tournament Wins
1 NCAA Tournament Win

We don’t need to go back to include four seasons prior to that to gauge ā€œprogress.ā€
 
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And I wouldn't be surprised if he goes and takes any recruits Pope even contemplates landing.

Nobody does petty like Coach Cal. And nobody is ripe to be a victim like Mark Pope.
Sure did. Several talking heads alluded to it. Cal will wait until his next victory or big recruiting haul and cut Pope's legs out.
 

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But was he wrong? In those 4 years was Cal constantly battling injuries to his key players and starters? I wish Pope had not made that reveal, but was he wrong?
Yes, he was creating a narrative. Last 2 yrs to his first 2 would be a fair comparison bc they're both NIL. He went with 4 yrs bc the historically bad Covid yr brought %'s way down giving him the perception of progress.
 

Beatle Bum

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Yes, he is wrong. He is terrible. Cal's last year he had all 3 centers out. Cal had just as many injuries as Pope. Pope is just trying to cover is backside.

2019-20 Nate Sestina- Broken Wrist, EJ Montgomery- Ankle, Immanuel Quickley- Chest
2020-21 Terrence Clarke- ankle, Keion Brooks- calf
2021-22 Savir Wheeler- ankle/shoulder, C.J. Frederick- cracked ribs/broken finger, Jacob Toppin- shoulder/ankle
2022-23 Cason Wallace- back/ankle, Oscar Tshiebwe-knee surgery
2023-24 Bradshaw- foot, Onyenso-foot, Plus Ivisic - ncaa eligibility issues

So Cal dealt with issues too. It is part of the game. Iowa State came up with a game plan pretty fast. It is a shame Pope did not have more time to design an offense for right handed players. What a fraud.
I loved Cal. His last five years were frustrating as hell, however. Last year was a breath of fresh air. This year was like Cal’s last five, but not as bad as may of those years individually. It was 2018-19 when we last made it past the first weekend of the tournament. All the while we are stacking the NBA with players. WTF!

Did Pope say Cal had no injuries? Is that what he said? I did not listen. But, comparing seasons, you have to go back to that 2018-19 year to find a year Cal had success in the tournament.
 

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And, each coach coaches with the rules that are in place. Only Comparing Cal’s NIL years with Pope’s first two is BS. UK has played basketball for over a century. We don’t judge seasons by the rules. We judge by success. Cal never won as many ranked games as Pope won last year. Cal did not get out for he first weekend of the tourney for years.

And that covid year? Every team played that year. We got out asses handed to us by other teams facing the same issues. That team was a sad joke.
 
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I loved Cal. His last five years were frustrating as hell, however. Last year was a breath of fresh air. This year was like Cal’s last five, but not as bad as may of those years individually. It was 2018-19 when we last made it past the first weekend of the tournament. All the while we are stacking the NBA with players. WTF!

Did Pope say Cal had no injuries? Is that what he said? I did not listen. But, comparing seasons, you have to go back to that 2018-19 year to find a year Cal had success in the tournament.
Cal is a nice guy I was blessed to be around him a few times. His son acts nothing like him tho
 

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And, each coach coaches with the rules that are in place. Only Comparing Cal’s NIL years with Pope’s first two is BS. UK has played basketball for over a century. We don’t judge seasons by the rules. We judge by success. Cal never won as many ranked games as Pope won last year. Cal did not get out for he first weekend of the tourney for years.

And that covid year? Every team played that year. We got out asses handed to us by other teams facing the same issues. That team was a sad joke.
Both of Pope's years were terrible. Do not just count his ranked wins, count his blow out losses to scrub teams too. EXHIBIT A. OHIO ST. There is too much cherry picking of the data. Pope is awful and in a few years history will prove it.
 

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Yea if marginally better then Calipari’s last 4 is why he was hired we just would have rolled with Calipari and protected the legacy and went Jim Boeheim. Hell Calipari had the ability to produce with recruiting any minute.

And why 4? Why not 5? Because there was an elite 8 if you say 5. Classic logical fallacy designed to change the facts and create your own timeframe for support. Seems as smart as he is he needs an intro to philosophy course.

He’s not here to take a sht sandwich, ignore the lobster from the meal before, and piss in the bread to call it easier eat. Get the guy out.
Why not 3 because there was a 9-16 garbage season in there if you go back 4 to use to his advantage
 

Beatle Bum

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Both of Pope's years were terrible. Do not just count his ranked wins, count his blow out losses to scrub teams too. EXHIBIT A. OHIO ST. There is too much cherry picking of the data. Pope is awful and in a few years history will prove it.
False. You should have made that point last year. Pointing to OSU and acting like that was the season is just stupid.
 

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False. You should have made that point last year. Pointing to OSU and acting like that was the season is just stupid.
I did last year. I said OSU, Georgia, etc. were just as bad as his good wins. We're Kentucky Basketball. We should always beat those schools. We are not talking football.
 

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I thought Pope was a little defensive and his justification of progress was unnecessary. Sounded like he was fighting for his job… that comes next season!

Cal was so pissed that he got laser focused like never before in San Jose to show UK and Pope. šŸ˜‚

Cal is new to Arky, but last night I saw the same old Cal. Helpless, screaming at officials, refusing to go zone when his guys got in foul trouble or to slow down Arizonas penetration.

Arky gave up 81 ppg this year with a long and very athletic team, which was perfectly built to play a nasty Zone defense. He played man all year with a short bench. Same old Cal. Stubbornness I don’t miss!
 
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To people saying we won't get players. Portal isn't open, and we have several new coaches going to new places going to up some freshmen as well. Last year roster management was bad let's stop being negative buttholes.