OT: County level/Metro Population Estimates for July 2025 released today

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patdog

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Interesting, Harrison County is now the largest county in the state. Desoto in 3rd, but may pass Harrison in a decade or so. Delta and Southwest continue to hemorrhage population.
 

OG Goat Holder

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Brain drain still in full effect, even if it did tick up from 2024 to 2025. Trend line since 2020 is still -0.2% down, just like from 2010 to 2020.

I'm telling you, young people want a thriving metro area. As cities become more expensive, folks start migrating to cheaper cities. Jackson could conceivably become one of those, if it would get out of its own way. But it won't, and MS will continually be held back by that.
 

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Brain drain still in full effect, even if it did tick up from 2024 to 2025. Trend line since 2020 is still -0.2% down, just like from 2010 to 2020.

I'm telling you, young people want a thriving metro area. As cities become more expensive, folks start migrating to cheaper cities. Jackson could conceivably become one of those, if it would get out of its own way. But it won't, and MS will continually be held back by that.
All facts.
 
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ZombieKissinger

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For Jackson, step 1 is safety and utilities in a green zone near UMMC, including fondren and Elvis’s; then secure all the UMMC students nearby; then give them consolidated, safe places to rage; then build into the young couples and singles residential

they’ve done some good stuff there in the last 15 years but it’s not nearly complete/sufficient
 
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Leeshouldveflanked

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Delta and Southwest continue to hemorrhage population.
January 6 GIF by GIPHY News
 

paindonthurt

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For Jackson, step 1 is safety and utilities in a green zone near UMMC, including fondren and Elvis’s; then secure all the UMMC students nearby; then give them consolidated, safe places to rage; then build into the young couples and singles residential

they’ve done some good stuff there in the last 15 years but it’s not nearly complete/sufficient
I think a lot of that would happen if it was safe.

being safe should be pretty easy, but it won’t be.
 

patdog

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I think a lot of that would happen if it was safe.

being safe should be pretty easy, but it won’t be.
I think with new mayor & the Capitol Police Zone there will be some improvement. But there’s a long way to go & if they keep electing the same judges, not much you can do. I do think the Capitol Police Zone also has a different judicial system. But that’s only in the zone.
 
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For Jackson, step 1 is safety and utilities in a green zone near UMMC, including fondren and Elvis’s; then secure all the UMMC students nearby; then give them consolidated, safe places to rage; then build into the young couples and singles residential

they’ve done some good stuff there in the last 15 years but it’s not nearly complete/sufficient
A big step would get getting rid of the stadium and have UMMC get bigger. Build JSU’s stadium. Thats actually the first step.
 

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I mean, yeah probably but you’re talking years from now. Hernando is still in the growth stage.
I think Hernando has a chance to hold on. I haven’t been there in a long time, but if they can keep the retail, crappy apartments, and things like that in check, they have a chance. Brandon is trying to do that. Madison’s obviously done a good job but they don’t have a core downtown/square type area like the other two, I wonder if it stays up once that mayor is done. Contain riff raff in other areas, is the key.

In non-suburbia area, Tupelo has done a decent job too. Obviously the college towns. That’s about it.

I don’t count the coast since it’s limited by hurricanes. It’ll always be cool, but just limited.

ETA: At some point, you have to invest to keep a place nice. You can’t just continually outrun stuff.
 
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ZombieKissinger

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A big step would get getting rid of the stadium and have UMMC get bigger. Build JSU’s stadium. Thats actually the first step.
I’m in favor of the stadium leaving, but UMMC already has 2500 active students, and they’re too scattered. If you make the surrounding area safe enough to get the girls who move to 17ing Flowood to feel comfortable living within walking distance, that’s a big deal. I was a UMMC student not that long ago and saw all this stuff first hand
 

patdog

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I’m in favor of the stadium leaving, but UMMC already has 2500 active students, and they’re too scattered. If you make the surrounding area safe enough to get the girls who move to 17ing Flowood to feel comfortable living within walking distance, that’s a big deal. I was a UMMC student not that long ago and saw all this stuff first hand
A lot of them live in the large gated condo complex across the street on Lakeland. They definitely need more though.
 

ZombieKissinger

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A lot of them live in the large gated condo complex across the street on Lakeland. They definitely need more though.
Yeah, that came right after I left, and that’s what they need more of + more places to go out nearby. Before that, it was random sketchy apartments in belhaven/fondren, random houses in leftover and parham bridges, vieux carre, and flowood/brandon. I saw all the taxi voucher receipts for the parties, so I saw all the places people were going. It was insane, so we capped the vouchers.
 
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I think Hernando has a chance to hold on. I haven’t been there in a long time, but if they can keep the retail, crappy apartments, and things like that in check, they have a chance. Brandon is trying to do that. Madison’s obviously done a good job but they don’t have a core downtown/square type area like the other two, I wonder if it stays up once that mayor is done. Contain riff raff in other areas, is the key.

In non-suburbia area, Tupelo has done a decent job too. Obviously the college towns. That’s about it.

I don’t count the coast since it’s limited by hurricanes. It’ll always be cool, but just limited.

ETA: At some point, you have to invest to keep a place nice. You can’t just continually outrun stuff.
Hernandos main problem is infrastructure.
 

L4Dawg

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I’m in favor of the stadium leaving, but UMMC already has 2500 active students, and they’re too scattered. If you make the surrounding area safe enough to get the girls who move to 17ing Flowood to feel comfortable living within walking distance, that’s a big deal. I was a UMMC student not that long ago and saw all this stuff first hand
Unfortunately that ship sailed a long time ago. I lived across the street (Lakeland) for two years when I was there. Even back then it was starting to get a bit sketchy. I moved my last two years.
 

paindonthurt

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I think with new mayor & the Capitol Police Zone there will be some improvement. But there’s a long way to go & if they keep electing the same judges, not much you can do. I do think the Capitol Police Zone also has a different judicial system. But that’s only in the zone.
I agree they are doing better but the stuff was so bad that better is still bad.
 
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paindonthurt

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I’m in favor of the stadium leaving, but UMMC already has 2500 active students, and they’re too scattered. If you make the surrounding area safe enough to get the girls who move to 17ing Flowood to feel comfortable living within walking distance, that’s a big deal. I was a UMMC student not that long ago and saw all this stuff first hand
But it’s already safe. Ask goat.
 
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HWY51dog

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What's the typical price per square foot now for a new home around Hernando?
185 sq ft new construction. I’m working with one now in a neighborhood with average of 220 sq ft new.

Crazy stat…the 400-600 homes are sitting longer but the 1 million range are selling within 2 weeks.
 
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HWY51dog

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Becomes infiltrated with Memphis. A few short years ago, Southaven was Hernando. Cordova was Germantown. South Jackson was tame.
Lewisburg is changing before Hernando, it’s already started there. ( most people don’t realize it yet) Hopefully, Hernando will continue to stay away from large apartment complex’s and that will help among other things.
 
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That town has been in decline 40 years. And it’s not near anything. Nice olace
To visit. But I wouldn’t live there.
They are trying, I remember they were paying remote workers 15K to move there, for a while. And they have the movie industry, which has convinced an airline to start up small service at the airport. So it's not as dire as it used to be. But yeah still a long way to go. Currently have a good mayor, but we all know that can change quickly.
 
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