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Nashville_Hawk

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This is a poor take. PK mentioned it after the season concluded. Most of our guys were more concerned with winning matches.

Our schedule was by far the toughest in the nation. Had we not skipped the soldier salute our seeds would have been much better. If any team outside of the big ten had wrestled our schedule, I doubt many of their guys would have been seeded higher than 6 or 7. Okie State would be the exception




Generational wealth must be a beautiful thing? You should have enough wealth put away to help the Hawks land those elite, can’t miss prospects? On the other hand, you probably influenced Angelo based on his style and tendencies?

Only one team a year hits their expectations. Ohio State came up short. Iowa State (losing Elam really hurt)and Cornell failed miserably. Had Iowa had the same team and individual results those teams had…,I don’t even need to say it.

83% came from the Cornell coaching staff.
I'm out of the Corby discussions. I've said my piece and am moving on. Since you brought it up I really hated it for Elam. I was hoping he'd be able to take out Josh Barr in the finals, but when I saw that televised match he lost to what was it a 10-seed, he literally looked injured and drugged (as in pain meds drugged). He did not look like Rocky Elam at all. Hated that!!
 

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I'm out of the Corby discussions. I've said my piece and am moving on. Since you brought it up I really hated it for Elam. I was hoping he'd be able to take out Josh Barr in the finals, but when I saw that televised match he lost to what was it a 10-seed, he literally looked injured and drugged (as in pain meds drugged). He did not look like Rocky Elam at all. Hated that!!
Smart move you've said enough BS and put enough words is my mouth. The best was when I said I talk to "coaches" and you then said that I claimed I talk TNT. People like you are the problem you make up stuff that fits your narrative
 
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Nashville_Hawk

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Smart move you've said enough BS and put enough words is my mouth. The best was when I said I talk to "coaches" and you then said that I claimed I talk TNT. People like you are the problem you make up stuff that fits your narrative
Now see Corby, I'm trying to take the high ground and you're not. And I didn't put any words in your mouth. And I didn't claim you talked to TNT. I read a post where you said words to the effect that you were in contact with TNT or they were in contact with you, and then someone (not me) asked words to the effect, do you talk to TNT and you said no, which made some wonder how are you in contact with TNT though haven't talked to them. That's it. Again, I don't want to argue any longer.
 

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Now see Corby, I'm trying to take the high ground and you're not. And I didn't put any words in your mouth. And I didn't claim you talked to TNT. I read a post where you said words to the effect that you were in contact with TNT or they were in contact with you, and then someone (not me) asked words to the effect, do you talk to TNT and you said no, which made some wonder how are you in contact with TNT though haven't talked to them. That's it. Again, I don't want to argue any longer.
So others put words in my mouth and you decided to say the same got it. Moving on and won't be responding to you anymore
 
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So others put words in my mouth and you decided to say the same got it. Moving on and won't be responding to you anymore
Note: I will probably hate myself for doing this, but here goes...

Now you are trying to put words in his mouth.

What you describe is not what happened. You made a definitive statement about what "Tom" thinks. I asked you to clarify if that came from Tom or was your opinion. Given the way you worded it you made it sound like it came from "Tom". You then backed away from that without exactly saying it was just your opinion. It reminded me of something an old boss told me. One man's confusion is another man being intentionally vague.
 

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Note: I will probably hate myself for doing this, but here goes...

Now you are trying to put words in his mouth.

What you describe is not what happened. You made a definitive statement about what "Tom" thinks. I asked you to clarify if that came from Tom or was your opinion. Given the way you worded it you made it sound like it came from "Tom". You then backed away from that without exactly saying it was just your opinion. It reminded me of something an old boss told me. One man's confusion is another man being intentionally vague.
I don’t mind you joining the fray as you are one of the good guys and have always had good intentions. I’ve never spoken to Tom or anyone on the team nor gotten any closer to any of them but from my CHA seat, so can’t imagine ever what Tom thinks. So I’m asking anyone on this forum to please send me the post where I said I knew what Tom was thinking, and it can’t be me referencing another poster. If someone can do that I will gladly step away from this forum…no new names, etc., I will be gone. You can even send it privately. If it exists I’m gone. Go Hawks!
 
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Note: I will probably hate myself for doing this, but here goes...

Now you are trying to put words in his mouth.

What you describe is not what happened. You made a definitive statement about what "Tom" thinks. I asked you to clarify if that came from Tom or was your opinion. Given the way you worded it you made it sound like it came from "Tom". You then backed away from that without exactly saying it was just your opinion. It reminded me of something an old boss told me. One man's confusion is another man being intentionally vague.
You know what they about the word assume🤷
 

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I don’t mind you joining the fray as you are one of the good guys and have always had good intentions. I’ve never spoken to Tom or anyone on the team nor gotten any closer to any of them but from my CHA seat, so can’t imagine ever what Tom thinks. So I’m asking anyone on this forum to please send me the post where I said I knew what Tom was thinking, and it can’t be me referencing another poster. If someone can do that I will gladly step away from this forum…no new names, etc., I will be gone. You can even send it privately. If it exists I’m gone. Go Hawks!
I was not referring to you. It was corby who wrote the post as though he knew Brands and could say what he thinks.
 

Nashville_Hawk

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I was not referring to you. It was corby who wrote the post as though he knew Brands and could say what he thinks.
Thank you!! I thought I’d lost my mind. LOL!! I’m anything but an insider; I literally know exactly one person on this board, nobody in the room, nobody on the staff, nobody in CHA, etc. And I don’t pretend to know anyone. I only know what I get from FLO and you kind gents on this board.
 

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Thank you!! I thought I’d lost my mind. LOL!! I’m anything but an insider; I literally know exactly one person on this board, nobody in the room, nobody on the staff, nobody in CHA, etc. And I don’t pretend to know anyone. I only know what I get from FLO and you kind gents on this board.
lol I was pretty sure you’d lost the plot while reading this thread just now. Glad you’re back…
 

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lol I was pretty sure you’d lost the plot while reading this thread just now. Glad you’re back…
Thanks brother. Unlike some on here, I don't pretend to know anyone or anything. But at the same time I'm not going to be an ant and just follow the ant in front of me. Like one of the others indicated, this is a discussion board so we should be able to freely provide an opinion...
 
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We really won't be able to judge if DT success is sustainable until he recruits the replacements of his current freshmen. Can he maintain the RTC in Stillwater?

How does Robideu, Vega, and Merill look next year. Do they all hold their weights again? Vega seemed more reliant on his reach advantage to counter wrestle. How committed are the donors in the long run?
 

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Thanks brother. Unlike some on here, I don't pretend to know anyone or anything. But at the same time I'm not going to be an ant and just follow the ant in front of me. Like one of the others indicated, this is a discussion board so we should be able to freely provide an opinion...
@Corby2: that was not directed at you...seriously. I'm done with the arguments and won't be doing any cheap shots either.
 

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We really won't be able to judge if DT success is sustainable until he recruits the replacements of his current freshmen. Can he maintain the RTC in Stillwater?

How does Robideu, Vega, and Merill look next year. Do they all hold their weights again? Vega seemed more reliant on his reach advantage to counter wrestle. How committed are the donors in the long run?
I don't know about the long term sustainability, but am curious to see what next year's team looks like with the incoming hammers, current hammers, and any portal guys he grabs. At the end of the day I know we're a few years out but it sure would be nice to see Penn State challenged come 2027 NCAAs.
 
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We really won't be able to judge if DT success is sustainable until he recruits the replacements of his current freshmen. Can he maintain the RTC in Stillwater?

How does Robideu, Vega, and Merill look next year. Do they all hold their weights again? Vega seemed more reliant on his reach advantage to counter wrestle. How committed are the donors in the long run?
DT is in it for certain. The only question at this point is does he settle in at number 2 or keep moving and pass PSU. Next year he won't catch him, but 2028 is a race.
 
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Corby seems like a good dude, and he definitely knows wrestling and has a lot of connections. His contributions to the board are welcome.

With that said, just like Willy calling himself the Brain and telling us he is the smartest guy in wrestling ( he might be), it reminds me of the friend we all have who is rich, and almost every day he tells you how rich he is. I get it, pal, you're loaded.I see the BMW, I see the Rolex -you dont have to constantly remind me and say how rich you are on a regular basis.

Corby feels the need to remind us how he has connections we don't have and how he talks to coaches. I think it's awesome, and it often adds value---you just dont have to tell us that all the time or suggest that is why you know more than us--we get it :)

Now quit teasing and tell us who we might target in the portal!
 

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Corby seems like a good dude, and he definitely knows wrestling and has a lot of connections. His contributions to the board are welcome.

With that said, just like Willy calling himself the Brain and telling us he is the smartest guy in wrestling ( he might be), it reminds me of the friend we all have who is rich, and almost every day he tells you how rich he is. I get it, pal, you're loaded.I see the BMW, I see the Rolex -you dont have to constantly remind me and say how rich you are on a regular basis.

Corby feels the need to remind us how he has connections we don't have and how he talks to coaches. I think it's awesome, and it often adds value---you just dont have to tell us that all the time or suggest that is why you know more than us--we get it :)

Now quit teasing and tell us who we might target in the portal!
Oh yeah, Corby, well Tom Brands once said he liked my shirt! So you’re not the only one who is CoNnEcTeD!

It was an Iowa Wrestling shirt, of course.
 

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Oh yeah, Corby, well Tom Brands once said he liked my shirt! So you’re not the only one who is CoNnEcTeD!

It was an Iowa Wrestling shirt, of course.
Well I have never said I was "connected" . I said I talk to coaches. I have been around for years and know people in the wrestling word . It's not as big of a deal as people think. And after constantly being attacked I say smarta*s things back.
 

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Well I have never said I was "connected" . I said I talk to coaches. I have been around for years and know people in the wrestling word . It's not as big of a deal as people think. And after constantly being attacked I say smarta*s things back.
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Oh yeah, Corby, well Tom Brands once said he liked my shirt! So you’re not the only one who is CoNnEcTeD!

It was an Iowa Wrestling shirt, of course.
Basch, VanDeventer, Saylor, Pyles, Chapman, Sherrill, Klingman all have been around talking wrestling with themselves and anyone who would listen for quite a long bit now. Some wrestled, some didn't. People that write for The Mat, Wrestling Media, WIN and Smalls two companies that combined have just networked with others in the wrestling community. VanDeventer has been talking wrestling and over the years the circle just gets bigger with who they all talk to. The thing about it is for most, one person tells you something and that is it. When you have the amount of people all those guys know tell you something, there is most likely 4-5 more that will confirm it. Just makes "gossip" take a step into reality.

It happens when you are around wrestling long enough. I met Jim Jackson because he was roommates with the son of a colleague of my mother's while in college. Who knew he would become one of the winningest coaches in Minnesota history at Apple Valley High, Shakopee, Staples-Motley. I live on Leech Lake in the summer, and he has had a place on a small lake very close. With over 900 coaching wins the guy knows wrestling and wrestling people.
 

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Basch, VanDeventer, Saylor, Pyles, Chapman, Sherrill, Klingman all have been around talking wrestling with themselves and anyone who would listen for quite a long bit now. Some wrestled, some didn't. People that write for The Mat, Wrestling Media, WIN and Smalls two companies that combined have just networked with others in the wrestling community. VanDeventer has been talking wrestling and over the years the circle just gets bigger with who they all talk to. The thing about it is for most, one person tells you something and that is it. When you have the amount of people all those guys know tell you something, there is most likely 4-5 more that will confirm it. Just makes "gossip" take a step into reality.

It happens when you are around wrestling long enough. I met Jim Jackson because he was roommates with the son of a colleague of my mother's while in college. Who knew he would become one of the winningest coaches in Minnesota history at Apple Valley High, Shakopee, Staples-Motley. I live on Leech Lake in the summer, and he has had a place on a small lake very close. With over 900 coaching wins the guy knows wrestling and wrestling people.

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