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Why greater parity historically in MBB than WBB?

18IsTheMan

18IsTheMan

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I won't bother summarizing the data in the tables below, but the difference is striking to say the least. Not only have the lower seeds not had a shot in WBB, they haven't even had a shot at a shot.

MBB tournament performance by seed:
SEEDOVERALL RECORDBEST FINISH
No. 1534-134Champions (26 times)
No. 2373-155Champions (five times)
No. 3294-156Champions (four times)
No. 4250-158Champion (two times)
No. 5183-160Runner-up (four times)
No. 6168-159Champions (once)
No. 7141-159*Champions (once)
No. 8113-159Champions (once)
No. 998-160Final Four (two times)
No. 1097-159*Final Four (once)
No. 11105-160Final Four (five times)
No. 1281-160Elite Eight (two times)
No. 1339-160Sweet 16 (six times)
No. 1425-160Sweet 16 (two times)
No. 1516-160Sweet 16 (once)
No. 162-160Second round (two times)

WBB tournament performance by seed:
SeedOverall recordBest finish
No. 1475-101Champions (23 times)
No. 2332-119Champions (five times)
No. 3272-121Champions (three times)
No. 4218-124Runner-up (once, 1994 Louisiana Tech)
No. 5148-124Runner-up (once, 2013 Louisville)
No. 6127-124Final Four (once, 1997 Notre Dame)
No. 7105-124Final Four (twice)
No. 865-124Sweet 16 (once, 2006 Boston College)
No. 968-124Final Four (once, 1998 Arkansas)
No. 1050-124Elite Eight (once, 2017 Oregon)
No. 1151-124Elite Eight (once, 2011 Gonzaga)
No. 1231-124Sweet 16 (twice)
No. 1310-124Sweet 16 (three times)
No. 140-124First round
No. 150-124First round
No. 161-124Second round (once, 1998 Harvard)
 
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18IsTheMan said:
I won't bother summarizing the data in the tables below, but the difference is striking to say the least. Not only have the lower seeds not had a shot in WBB, they haven't even had a shot at a shot.

MBB tournament performance by seed:
SEEDOVERALL RECORDBEST FINISH
No. 1534-134Champions (26 times)
No. 2373-155Champions (five times)
No. 3294-156Champions (four times)
No. 4250-158Champion (two times)
No. 5183-160Runner-up (four times)
No. 6168-159Champions (once)
No. 7141-159*Champions (once)
No. 8113-159Champions (once)
No. 998-160Final Four (two times)
No. 1097-159*Final Four (once)
No. 11105-160Final Four (five times)
No. 1281-160Elite Eight (two times)
No. 1339-160Sweet 16 (six times)
No. 1425-160Sweet 16 (two times)
No. 1516-160Sweet 16 (once)
No. 162-160Second round (two times)

WBB tournament performance by seed:
SeedOverall recordBest finish
No. 1475-101Champions (23 times)
No. 2332-119Champions (five times)
No. 3272-121Champions (three times)
No. 4218-124Runner-up (once, 1994 Louisiana Tech)
No. 5148-124Runner-up (once, 2013 Louisville)
No. 6127-124Final Four (once, 1997 Notre Dame)
No. 7105-124Final Four (twice)
No. 865-124Sweet 16 (once, 2006 Boston College)
No. 968-124Final Four (once, 1998 Arkansas)
No. 1050-124Elite Eight (once, 2017 Oregon)
No. 1151-124Elite Eight (once, 2011 Gonzaga)
No. 1231-124Sweet 16 (twice)
No. 1310-124Sweet 16 (three times)
No. 140-124First round
No. 150-124First round
No. 161-124Second round (once, 1998 Harvard)
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nlstanford

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18IsTheMan said:
I won't bother summarizing the data in the tables below, but the difference is striking to say the least. Not only have the lower seeds not had a shot in WBB, they haven't even had a shot at a shot.

MBB tournament performance by seed:
SEEDOVERALL RECORDBEST FINISH
No. 1534-134Champions (26 times)
No. 2373-155Champions (five times)
No. 3294-156Champions (four times)
No. 4250-158Champion (two times)
No. 5183-160Runner-up (four times)
No. 6168-159Champions (once)
No. 7141-159*Champions (once)
No. 8113-159Champions (once)
No. 998-160Final Four (two times)
No. 1097-159*Final Four (once)
No. 11105-160Final Four (five times)
No. 1281-160Elite Eight (two times)
No. 1339-160Sweet 16 (six times)
No. 1425-160Sweet 16 (two times)
No. 1516-160Sweet 16 (once)
No. 162-160Second round (two times)

WBB tournament performance by seed:
SeedOverall recordBest finish
No. 1475-101Champions (23 times)
No. 2332-119Champions (five times)
No. 3272-121Champions (three times)
No. 4218-124Runner-up (once, 1994 Louisiana Tech)
No. 5148-124Runner-up (once, 2013 Louisville)
No. 6127-124Final Four (once, 1997 Notre Dame)
No. 7105-124Final Four (twice)
No. 865-124Sweet 16 (once, 2006 Boston College)
No. 968-124Final Four (once, 1998 Arkansas)
No. 1050-124Elite Eight (once, 2017 Oregon)
No. 1151-124Elite Eight (once, 2011 Gonzaga)
No. 1231-124Sweet 16 (twice)
No. 1310-124Sweet 16 (three times)
No. 140-124First round
No. 150-124First round
No. 161-124Second round (once, 1998 Harvard)
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I don’t think it’s much more than a smaller pool of talent to choose from. And I mean no disrespect. Just saying that fewer women playing basketball (specifically AAU, club, etc.) than men = fewer top tier players (naturally) = more consolidation of talent among the top teams.
 
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nlstanford said:
I don’t think it’s much more than a smaller pool of talent to choose from. And I mean no disrespect. Just saying that fewer women playing basketball (specifically AAU, club, etc.) than men = fewer top tier players (naturally) = more consolidation of talent among the top teams.
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This is what I think as well.

Not something that can be fixed easily too, it would take time.
 
Uscg1984

Uscg1984

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The top talent is concentrated among about 10 programs.

That's actually better than it was, say, 10 years ago when it was concentrated among about 5 programs.
 
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