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Iowa, and just about every other program was late to the party reacting to what Cael was doing in Happy Valley. Im just wondering if history is going to repeat itself again. DT is having some quick success. Alot of people thought it would take some time for him in Stillwater. What he's doing with this young talent is impressive. I wonder if we will hear the same " wait till this class is gone" kind of talk with him. He had a front row seat to see how the reloading thing is super important. Time will tell, but wrestling fans have seen this story before.
 

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Messenbrink came out of a box from California Baptitst to Penn State. Another Akren kid we didn't either recruit or Cal Baptist out recruited us. He is from Wisconsin. How can you miss that talent. How many generational talented fresman or redshirt freshmen this year? We landed ZERO!!!! Unless Ferrari is in that category.
How did he resist the chance to be coached by Morningstar? Angelo is a beast but he will never be that bonus points machine. Angelo has some of the best defense on the planet so he can and will always be right in the money. There are similarities between he and Vega.
 

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Realism only seems negative to those living in an alternate reality. The team did very well vs expectations, but that was helped by extremely low expectations (seeds) which were a direct result of severe under performance most of the year.
Blah blah blah don't care what you say I forgot more about wrestling as I typed this then you
ever knew. Now go kick your dog
 

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How did he resist the chance to be coached by Morningstar? Angelo is a beast but he will never be that bonus points machine. Angelo has some of the best defense on the planet so he can and will always be right in the money. There are similarities between he and Vega.
Change is coming this offseason. But people will have to wait a little bit. But I don't know anything so I would never know what's gonna happen 🤣
 

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Blah blah blah don't care what you say I forgot more about wrestling as I typed this then you
ever knew. Now go kick your dog
You care about everything I say. I would live rent free in your head but you are my personal welfare case so I kick you a few bones here and there. Don't you need to field calls from Cael and DT today? I noticed Cael pretty much said you were the reason for the season in his post tournament comments.
 

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Blah blah blah don't care what you say I forgot more about wrestling as I typed this then you
ever knew. Now go kick your dog
Now Corby be careful, you said earlier last month that you had contact with TNT but when your bluff was called you admitted you never talked to them. Do you really know that much about wrestling or are you just a fan of Google and AI? ;)
 

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You care about everything I say. I would live rent free in your head but you are my personal welfare case so I kick you a few bones here and there. Don't you need to field calls from Cael and DT today? I noticed Cael pretty much said you were the reason for the season in his post tournament comments.
How many coaches were texting you during NCAAs? I have a Google doc with every wrestler and his tendencies 🤷. You don't know anything about what happens. Welfare 🤣 I'm retired at 51.
 

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Change is coming this offseason. But people will have to wait a little bit. But I don't know anything so I would never know what's gonna happen 🤣

How many coaches were texting you during NCAAs? Buddy I have a Google doc with every wrestler and his tendencies. You don't know anything about what happens. Welfare 🤣 I'm retired at 5.







 
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Blah blah blah don't care what you say I forgot more about wrestling as I typed this then you
ever knew. Now go kick your dog
Serious question. Im not trying to get in an argument at all with you. You have extensive wrestling knowledge. No doubt. How can you not see this for what it is? Anyone who has followed wrestling has seen programs hit a decline. It may start slow, and there may be some bright spots, but you have to call it like you see it. It may be a podium team that drops to a top ten ten program, or it can be a championship caliber program that is fighting for a team trophy. Its a decline either way. Just a matter of expectations.
 

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I liked brands 10 years ago. The lunatic personality doesn’t work anymore. One thing i noticed this year was the chain and scrambling wrestling has advanced incredibly. Maybe I’m old but this was the best wrestling I’ve ever seen in the semis and finals. The Iowa guys seem to be plodding and keeping things low and close. In a sense our offensive wrestling reminds me of the football teams offense.
Do not confuse having a "lunatic" personality with being hard-nosed. I've heard some Nits say this over the last twenty years, and those morans just like to pile on 83% of the time. He may not be the most articulate coach in the America, but we usually got his drift. He's not selling any used cars. He generally makes no excuses, but lately he didn't have too much to offer either. I agree with most of he rest of your comments.
 
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Serious question. Im not trying to get in an argument at all with you. You have extensive wrestling knowledge. No doubt. How can you not see this for what it is? Anyone who has followed wrestling has seen programs hit a decline. It may start slow, and there may be some bright spots, but you have to call it like you see it. It may be a podium team that drops to a top ten ten program, or it can be a championship caliber program that is fighting for a team trophy. Its a decline either way. Just a matter of expectations.
Iowa wrestling needs some improvements as does every program. But my opinion is Tom isn't one of the improvements needed. I think this offseason some improvements will happen. The RTC will have more guys competing which is important.
 
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Iowa wrestling needs some improvements as does every program. But my opinion is Tom isn't one of the improvements needed. I think this offseason some improvements will happen. The RTC will have more guys competing which is important.
Answer one thing honestly. Will Iowa win another NCAA team title with Tom Brands as the head coach no matter how many years they keep him? The correct answer is no. I gave you an easy test with the answer. Extra credit. What color is Corby's black dog?
 
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How many coaches were texting you during NCAAs? Buddy I have a Google doc with every wrestler and his tendencies
You are the equivalent of the head groupie of a C-rate band. Anyone that has to try to brag about being ā€œa big dealā€ for having some sort of weird gossip in a niche sport leads an incredibly sad, pathetic life.

You mistake knowledge as wisdom. Real wisdom would have been able to make predictions prior to this tournament based on what was seen. You didn’t do that. You are a fraud in every sense of the word. Case in point, Iowa interviewing for an assistant position prior to the tourney, but your bat phone didn’t ring.

You claimed March is what counts yet Iowa had a **** conference tourney (which was held in March) leading to not great seeds relative to their actual talent which led to wrestling higher to seeds for some.

Iowa got 4th place at NCAAs. As an actual fan of the program, that is not good enough for us, fair or not.

Petersen didn’t AA. Drake took 5th after competing in the finals the previous 2 years. Bailey didn’t AA despite his seed. Mikey got smoked in the finals, Angelo defaulted out after taking a loss as predicted and despite his ranking coming out of HS. Kueter now has 2 low AA’s to his name despite his p4p ranking out of HS.

Bright spots - Kennedy took 3rd. Cool.
Block AA’ed - always had the ability.
Arnold- 7th place, best thing about the tourney

If these are the bright spots it does not leave this program in good shape. I was trying to not post anything negative because I really was over the moon for Gabe and block but the clowns like corby and msu dictated this.
 

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You are the equivalent of the head groupie of a C-rate band. Anyone that has to try to brag about being ā€œa big dealā€ for having some sort of weird gossip in a niche sport leads an incredibly sad, pathetic life.

You mistake knowledge as wisdom. Real wisdom would have been able to make predictions prior to this tournament based on what was seen. You didn’t do that. You are a fraud in every sense of the word. Case in point, Iowa interviewing for an assistant position prior to the tourney, but your bat phone didn’t ring.

You claimed March is what counts yet Iowa had a **** conference tourney (which was held in March) leading to not great seeds relative to their actual talent which led to wrestling higher to seeds for some.

Iowa got 4th place at NCAAs. As an actual fan of the program, that is not good enough for us, fair or not.

Petersen didn’t AA. Drake took 5th after competing in the finals the previous 2 years. Bailey didn’t AA despite his seed. Mikey got smoked in the finals, Angelo defaulted out after taking a loss as predicted and despite his ranking coming out of HS. Kueter now has 2 low AA’s to his name despite his p4p ranking out of HS.

Bright spots - Kennedy took 3rd. Cool.
Block AA’ed - always had the ability.
Arnold- 7th place, best thing about the tourney

If these are the bright spots it does not leave this program in good shape. I was trying to not post anything negative because I really was over the moon for Gabe and block but the clowns like corby and msu dictated this.
Blah blah didn't read any of your post . Whatever you don't know S*IT.
 

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What are you 12? Also using that word shows your intelligence. I help autistic kids so keep that BS to yourself loser
Anyone else feel like usage of that word has skyrocketed recently? It’s such a low IQ way to try to insult someone too. Learn some new words, dolts!
Keep your hands to yourself around those kids.
jesus dude. You’re not funny or clever. Seriously go **** yourself
 
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Iowa wrestling needs some improvements as does every program. But my opinion is Tom isn't one of the improvements needed. I think this offseason some improvements will happen. The RTC will have more guys competing which is important.
Fair enough. I personally think Tom is the guy, but I don't see many options that are better at the moment. I think there are probably 20-30 guys in coaching right now that could achieve the same success, but no guarantee on any that would do significantly better. Just my opinion. I completely agree with the RTC side. That gets rolling and the trickle down effect could be big.
 
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Fair enough. I personally think Tom is the guy, but I don't see many options that are better at the moment. I think there are probably 20-30 guys in coaching right now that could achieve the same success, but no guarantee on any that would do significantly better. Just my opinion. I completely agree with the RTC side. That gets rolling and the trickle down effect could be big.
Meant to say Tom isnt the guy. Im too dumb to figure out the edit part.
 

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Fair enough. I personally think Tom is the guy, but I don't see many options that are better at the moment. I think there are probably 20-30 guys in coaching right now that could achieve the same success, but no guarantee on any that would do significantly better. Just my opinion. I completely agree with the RTC side. That gets rolling and the trickle down effect could be big.
I mentioned I would call Pritzlaff before Burroughs everyone laughed. How did Columbia do 🤷
 

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I liked brands 10 years ago. The lunatic personality doesn’t work anymore. One thing i noticed this year was the chain and scrambling wrestling has advanced incredibly. Maybe I’m old but this was the best wrestling I’ve ever seen in the semis and finals. The Iowa guys seem to be plodding and keeping things low and close. In a sense our offensive wrestling reminds me of the football teams offense.
That goes back to recruiting again. Angelo didn’t just learn that defense and scrambling since starting college and neither has these other young studs. They’re working on that since childhood and some have the physical flexibility, quickness and athleticism to make it look easy. Jax is a freak of nature. Only thing that will stop him from being a 4 timer is the same thing that stopped Lee, severe injuries and surgeries.
 

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I mentioned I would call Pritzlaff before Burroughs everyone laughed. How did Columbia do 🤷
I brought that name into the conversation. You pointed out that he lives in has same house despite changing programs and would not be interested. Why are you always hoping for credit you didn't earn?
 
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Mine would be to Pat Pop. Then I would make a call to Stanford and Minnesota. Try to snag 2 young assistants that are doing some pretty good things.
That's years down the road and why I say Pritzlaff he will have a few more years as a HC before that.