Weather bruhs…….heat dome……

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TroyMcClure2025

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The non-environmental world results in a monetary expedition, so I am unsure why it would surprise anyone that the environmental world would result in a monetary expedition.
And I am unsure why revenue or profit are seen as dirty or dishonest when it comes to environmental based tech, initiatives, or companies.

Things can be both noble AND profitable. Or both noble AND charge for it.
Simple. Because the “environmental world” infringes on rights for the sake of emotion versus science. Argue what you will, sweetheart. Al Gore and Greta are accurate faces for the movement. That hole is the ozone layer hasn’t killed us yet.
Regulations raise prices on every single process for American businesses/people. Taking advantage of hard-working Americans for profit from arbitrary, largely bs environmental standards is evil.
The people who call carbon a “pollutant” are not only stupid, they’re supporting sociopaths.
 

IBleedMaroonDawg

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I like what I heard a meteorologist say many years ago. How much concrete has increased in these weather sites? Concrete holds heat a whole lot better than trees.
 

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Simple. Because the “environmental world” infringes on rights for the sake of emotion versus science. Argue what you will, sweetheart. Al Gore and Greta are accurate faces for the movement. That hole is the ozone layer hasn’t killed us yet.
Regulations raise prices on every single process for American businesses/people. Taking advantage of hard-working Americans for profit from arbitrary, largely bs environmental standards is evil.
The people who call carbon a “pollutant” are not only stupid, they’re supporting sociopaths.
I thumbed up(?) both @mstateglfr 's post and your rebuttal.

People are nuanced.

Science shouldn't be. It's not an entity, but an ever-evolving process of discovery.

It's the interpretation of current knowledge in its respective time that always muddles the mix.

Yet, as humans we can't escape it. We (all of us) should stop weaponizing it.
 
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Dawgbite

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I have been trying to grow a Palm Tree here in North Mississippi for 30 years . They keep dying.

And I have to dig up my Banana Trees, Elephant Ears and Plumeria every winter still.
We had two palms outside our front door in North Ms. they never froze. Fire ant built a big mound around the base of one and killed it. I finally dug the other one up because there was no way I was ever going to match it. I’ve heard of people digging bananas up but I always just cut them off level with the ground and they came back every spring.
 

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He is a rice farmer. I don't know much about Miss rice growers but the rice patties I saw overseas were really wet. I'm banking farmers need to have some knowledge about weather.
Water in rice fields ain’t coming out of the sky, it’s coming out of the ground.
 

mstateglfr

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Simple. Because the “environmental world” infringes on rights for the sake of emotion versus science. Argue what you will, sweetheart. Al Gore and Greta are accurate faces for the movement. That hole is the ozone layer hasn’t killed us yet.
Regulations raise prices on every single process for American businesses/people. Taking advantage of hard-working Americans for profit from arbitrary, largely bs environmental standards is evil.
The people who call carbon a “pollutant” are not only stupid, they’re supporting sociopaths.
Perhaps we are talking about related yet different things.

My comment about environmental businesses being allowed to profit without a double standard of scrutiny is, in my view, distinctly different from what you just ranted about in your post above.

- I think a wind turbine company should be able to profit without the scrutiny of being told it should have to barely break even because it exists to generate cleaner energy.
- I think a waterways decontamination company should be able to profit without the scrutiny of being told it should have to barely break even because it exists to remove physical and chemical pollutants from creeks, rivers, ponds, and lakes.


You ranted about how companies that have products intended to make the world cleaner are infringing on your rights and are based on emotion instead of science. That is such a wildly extreme generalization that it lacks value or meaning.
You claimed Al Gore, someone who hasnt been relevant in a decade at least and who I dont think I have even heard about this decade, is a face for the movement. This isnt 2006 still- that movie of his came out 2 decades ago. He simply isnt a face of a 'movement', even if he does still talk at random conferences.
Your crying over regulations is wild. Lack of regulations is, in part, why cities were so completely dirty for decades. Regulations were a significant reason why cities are cleaner- the air, water, and ground. And in cities/states where environmental regulations have been rolled back, there is a direct connection to worse environmental conditions for people to live and recreate in. I live in a state where environmental regulations are lax and enforcement is seemingly non-existent...and it is disgusting to see the results.


Everyone should want clean air, water, and ground. This really shouldnt be a partisan issue- clean air, water, and ground helps everyone breathe better, drink healthy water, fish/boat/swim, hunt, hike, etc.

You really veered off on a tangent because nothing you posted addressed my observation that companies which exist to provide products that result in a cleaner environmental, should be able to profit without a double standard of criticism.
 
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TroyMcClure2025

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Perhaps we are talking about related yet different things.

My comment about environmental businesses being allowed to profit without a double standard of scrutiny is, in my view, distinctly different from what you just ranted about in your post above.

- I think a wind turbine company should be able to profit without the scrutiny of being told it should have to barely break even because it exists to generate cleaner energy.
- I think a waterways decontamination company should be able to profit without the scrutiny of being told it should have to barely break even because it exists to remove physical and chemical pollutants from creeks, rivers, ponds, and lakes.


You ranted about how companies that have products intended to make the world cleaner are infringing on your rights and are based on emotion instead of science. That is such a wildly extreme generalization that it lacks value or meaning.
You claimed Al Gore, someone who hasnt been relevant in a decade at least and who I dont think I have even heard about this decade, is a face for the movement. This isnt 2006 still- that movie of his came out 2 decades ago. He simply isnt a face of a 'movement', even if he does still talk at random conferences.
Your crying over regulations is wild. Lack of regulations is, in part, why cities were so completely dirty for decades. Regulations were a significant reason why cities are cleaner- the air, water, and ground. And in cities/states where environmental regulations have been rolled back, there is a direct connection to worse environmental conditions for people to live and recreate in. I live in a state where environmental regulations are lax and enforcement is seemingly non-existent...and it is disgusting to see the results.


Everyone should want clean air, water, and ground. This really shouldnt be a partisan issue- clean air, water, and ground helps everyone breathe better, drink healthy water, fish/boat/swim, hunt, hike, etc.

You really veered off on a tangent because nothing you posted addressed my observation that companies which exist to provide products that result in a cleaner environmental, should be able to profit without a double standard of criticism.
1) You’ve obviously never seen a rant. 2) You're a Democrat. 3) I know more about this than you. 4) I bet you sit with a deep leg cross. 5) See #2
 

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1) You’ve obviously never seen a rant. 2) You're a Democrat. 3) I know more about this than you. 4) I bet you sit with a deep leg cross. 5) See #2
- I have seen a rant- it was your post that didn't actually address what you were responding to and just went off instead.

- Over the past 20 years of local, state, and federal elections I have voted for Democrats, Republicans, and Libertarians. In the last year I have voted for Republican candidates.

- You may know more about this, but you seem incapable of staying on topic and addressing what has actually been said. You just reply and ramble abou some tangentially related points.

- I don't know what a deep leg cross is, but I bet you are saying this as a sad little insult. So sure, you got me good there. Ring me up on this one.
I cross my legs at my feet, at my knees, and also open so foot is on knee. It usually follows what there is room for me to do.
Not sure which is 'deep leg cross'.




None of this has dick to do with how I think supporting cleaner air, water, and land shouldn't be partisan because it benefits everyone.
None of this has to do with Al Gore not being relevant.
None of this has to do with whether alt energy companies should get grief for setting pricing to profit well.
 

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Just FYI, the "hole in the ozone layer" is a completely separate issue than global warming/climate change (ozone reflects out UV light rather than trapping heat in), and given that regulations banning CFCs across the globe are directly responsible for reversing ozone depletion (it's not totally "solved" yet, but it's been headed in the right direction for decades), Troy gave a really good example for the opposite side.
 

TroyMcClure2025

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- I have seen a rant- it was your post that didn't actually address what you were responding to and just went off instead.

- Over the past 20 years of local, state, and federal elections I have voted for Democrats, Republicans, and Libertarians. In the last year I have voted for Republican candidates.

- You may know more about this, but you seem incapable of staying on topic and addressing what has actually been said. You just reply and ramble abou some tangentially related points.

- I don't know what a deep leg cross is, but I bet you are saying this as a sad little insult. So sure, you got me good there. Ring me up on this one.
I cross my legs at my feet, at my knees, and also open so foot is on knee. It usually follows what there is room for me to do.
Not sure which is 'deep leg cross'.




None of this has dick to do with how I think supporting cleaner air, water, and land shouldn't be partisan because it benefits everyone.
None of this has to do with Al Gore not being relevant.
None of this has to do with whether alt energy companies should get grief for setting pricing to profit well.
Thank you. You confirmed all accusations.
 

TroyMcClure2025

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Just FYI, the "hole in the ozone layer" is a completely separate issue than global warming/climate change (ozone reflects out UV light rather than trapping heat in), and given that regulations banning CFCs across the globe are directly responsible for reversing ozone depletion (it's not totally "solved" yet, but it's been headed in the right direction for decades), Troy gave a really good example for the opposite side.
It’s not. It’s synonymous with climate change horse 💩. It’s the 1980’s version of 1990’s global warming and 2000’s climate change. It’s an adjustable narrative. The earth is ~6,000 years old (you won’t believe that either). We’ve been able to “see” the ozone layer ~50 years. How do we know what happened for the prior 5,950? Assuming you are an evolutionist, how do we know what happened 12 million years ago?
 

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I've not been in the world long enough to argue the statement but every generation has about the same trajectory on declaring the end of the world as we know it.
Never said end of the world just civilization as we relate to it.
 

mstateglfr

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Thank you. You confirmed all accusations.
do you support the idea that clean water air and land is good for us as a society and country?

very simple question just consider that question.
this is not a gotcha question.
I recognize that even if someone supports the idea, that does not mean they should therefore support all concepts, products, and initiatives related to clean air, water, land.
 
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