Nor should they. You are a gentleman and a scholar. As to the one you are "debating," best to put that person on ignore.
OT: Washington is going to have a hard time with NIL
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You are a cretin. And so is the person who found your comment funny.
Thank you for the nice compliment. I resist putting people on ignore unless they personally insult me. At that point, I smile: the best way to prove someone correct is to insult him personally -- that's a proof that the insulter knows he doesn't have a leg to stand on.
FWIW, the vast majority of states with sales taxes impose sales tax on toilet paper -- NJ and Pa. are among the exceptions. But Florio did a terrible job convincing the electorate that the taxes were needed.
I was young, but in my memory, Florio and Whitney were two of the worst Governors in my lifetime. This great State could use another Brendan Byrne or Tom Kean Sr as Governor again.
Are you seriously suggesting that the reason FSU is their current position is lack of donations? Don't most of their alums live in Florida?
Most Oregon alums live in Oregon and have no issue.
Not really. OR and CA have the highest taxation. FL has among the lowest. The football results speak for themselves.
Do Dodgers players not pay the same taxes as Padres players?
Seems absolutely ridiculous.
How do you get "lack of donations" from "spent poorly"?
You seriously think Oregon alums are footing the bill? Try one alum in Phil Knight, who has given Oregon over $1 billion dollars and just recently $500 mil. to their NIL and basically said, there's more where that came from.
Taxes or not, Oregon is going to be at an advantage from having Knight as a donor. NIL deals with third parties are OK if there is (a) a valid business purpose related to the endorsement and marketing of products and (b) compensation commensurate with the work. Knight, as owner of a maker of athletic equipment, will be more able to meet those requirements than most other boosters trying to get NIL deals past the College Sports Commission.
You obviously love cherries -- you pick them a lot! Ask *anybody* at Cal if they would prefer their football record over the past decade to FSU's, and they won't be able to stop laughing.
Depends how the deal is structured. If there's deferred comp that hits after retirement the tax hit might well be lower. Not exempt because is related to employment. Isn't there a former Met who gets deferred comp years after he retired?
July 1, Bobby Bonilla Day. They deferred the money to have more liquid cash to invest with Madoff
The details of how the dodgers deferred Ohtani’s contract are pretty crazy. Not surprising given how they operate that the padres couldn’t figure out something similar.
Another reason why the compensation is deferred is precisely to allow Ohtani to evade California income tax (with a top rate of 13.3%) by moving out of California when his playing career is over. (This link *may* be behind a paywall.) https://www.forbes.com/sites/nathan...advantaged-contract-appears-to-be-paying-off/
Actually California has a shot to tax that, at least partially, as connected to employment within the state.
Maybe, but I can tell you that at least one California legislator is nervous enough to have introduced a bill to limit deferred compensation deals like this one. I wonder where Bobby Bonilla is living and whether he is paying New York income tax on what he receives on Bobby Bonilla day every July 1.
Looks like he was smart and moved to a no tax state.
Former MLB star Bobby Bonilla lives in Sarasota, Florida. He moved to Florida, which has no state income tax, allowing him to keep more of his annual $1.19 million deferred payments from the New York Mets. These payments, celebrated annually on "Bobby Bonilla Day," continue through 2035
Good question on Bonilla. And I'm sure California will try to stop it. What I do know (not personally) is if you worked in NY and then retire to Florida with employee stock options unexercised NY will get to tax them when you do exercise them. It gets complicated if you lived in NJ worked in NY and then retire to Florida. 30 years ago NY did that with pensions until Congress stopped it legislatively.
I *think* that stock options are different because the employee can choose when to exercise them -- that is, the employee could have exercised them while working at the NY job. With Ohtani's contract, he doesn't have the right to receive the money until the year of payment and so his state of residence in that year is the key to state taxation. That may be why Bonilla is living in Sarasota, Florida. But I'm not going to pretend to be an expert on tax law.
As you pointed out, Floridas scholarships and savings programs have helped keep a good portion of the best and brightest home. One of my friends chose Florida over Duke.
And I can tell you that your friend is not the only Floridian who has done that. It's very hard to turn down a good education at a very reasonable price and choose instead to pay oodles at a private college, as excellent as Duke is.
CA is so desperate Newsome openly spoke of taxing people even after they leave the state. It's dire times out here. A poster in this thread used to crow about the alleged surplus Ca had. I told him it was nothing but smoke and mirrors and what they truth was, but he wasn't smart enough to figure it out. Now look at him lol #PudgyJoker
I know from personal experience regarding deferred income. It’s is taxed in the state where you currently reside when it’s becomes current year income.
Most people here know my actual name, and you can google the results from July the year I graduated. The NY ones leaked online. And then you can also check my status with the state bar.
He tried this before and was humiliated. You'd think that his status, leaving the board and trying to start his own venture that imploded, would chasten him...but...
The taxation is the same in LA as it is in SD though. The bottom line is, if CA taxation is ruining teams there, then surely there isn't a CA team that won back to back World Series...oh...
Knight did NOT give $500 million for NIL at UO.
"Phil Knight, co-founder of Nike, and his wife Penny have made multiple, distinct $500 million pledges to the University of Oregon(UO) for scientific research. These historic, record-breaking gifts established and expanded the Phil and Penny Knight Campus for Accelerating Scientific Impact, designed to fast-track research
and boost economic development in Oregon. "
A simple Phil Knigh NIL search found a this. Both things can be true. Phil did give to cancer research and NIL. Been quoted as saying he wants to see 2 things before he dies. Cancer cured and the ducks win a national championship.
Nike co-founder Phil Knight is a major proponent of University of Oregon athletics, significantly funding Name, Image, and Likeness (NIL) efforts through the Division Street Collective to secure top talent. Knight’s "unlimited" funding approach aims to win a national title, often directly engaging in recruiting high-profile prospects.
Key Aspects of Phil Knight's NIL Role:
- Division Street Collective: Knight co-founded this organization to facilitate NIL opportunities specifically for Oregon athletes.
- "Unlimited" Funding: He has been described as providing nearly unlimited NIL resources in his pursuit of a national championship.
- Direct Recruiting: Knight has actively assisted in recruiting, playing a significant role in flipping top prospects, such as 5-star cornerback Na'eem Offord.
- Impact on Oregon Football: His financial influence has helped Oregon maintain a top-tier recruiting class in 2025.
- "Uncle Phil" Persona: Players and coaches often refer to him affectionately as "Uncle Phil," highlighting his close relationship with the program.
- Rivalries & Influence: Despite Ohio State being a major Nike partner, Knight’s efforts are squarely focused on Oregon, leading to intense competition between the schools, such as when Oregon beat Ohio State for key recruits.
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Poor valet now calls himself "failed attorney" after promising to leave the board to create his own, which shocker, failed MISERABLY.
Not a surprise. As you may know, Florio was an amateur middleweight boxer when serving in the United States Navy before going to college. His left cheekbone was permanently sunken as a result.As he aged, Florio bore a striking resemblance to Cesar Romero..