OT: Rutgers Facilities Construction Projects; Status of 2030 Plan, Brower Demo, New CA Quad, etc.

bac2therac

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I'm in Belle Mead, close to the Hills border. Yes, I know about that plan. At first, it sounds crazy to put a Chik Fil A at that intersection. However, that company is very good/innovative with managing traffic and designing drive-thru lanes that can queue a ton of vehicles.

Regardless, would love a CFA in the area! :)

Me too

Looks like Moes is closed on 206
 
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Me too

Looks like Moes is closed on 206
Yeah, I noticed that Moe's closed. That place was pretty successful until Chipotle opened in the old Stop & Shop complex. I don't think they ever recovered from that.

As for the Monty Promenade: signed tenants in addition to Whole Foods:

European Wax
Spavia
Dor L’ Dor
Turning Point
Robinson’s Ale House
Iron Whale
Hallmark
Panera
Ulta
Hair Cuttery
Woof Gang Bakery
BodyRok
Learning Care Group
Wonder
Shake Shack
Image Studios
IVX Health
Deluxe Dentistry
Love & Honey Chicken
Alloy Personal Training
Buffalo Wild Wings To Go
AFC Urgent Care
YogaSix
Ariya Nail Lounge
Taste Buds
Shinjuku Sushi
Angelina Bakery
Toastique
 

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Yeah, I noticed that Moe's closed. That place was pretty successful until Chipotle opened in the old Stop & Shop complex. I don't think they ever recovered from that.

As for the Monty Promenade: signed tenants in addition to Whole Foods:

European Wax
Spavia
Dor L’ Dor
Turning Point
Robinson’s Ale House
Iron Whale
Hallmark
Panera
Ulta
Hair Cuttery
Woof Gang Bakery
BodyRok
Learning Care Group
Wonder
Shake Shack
Image Studios
IVX Health
Deluxe Dentistry
Love & Honey Chicken
Alloy Personal Training
Buffalo Wild Wings To Go
AFC Urgent Care
YogaSix
Ariya Nail Lounge
Taste Buds
Shinjuku Sushi
Angelina Bakery
Toastique
I see traffic nightmare.how is not going to backup even more than already at the shoprite and wawa lights
 

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I see traffic nightmare.how is not going to backup even more than already at the shoprite and wawa lights
Those 2 large light-to-light loops roads are going to help a lot. No more left hand turns from 206. No more left hand turning lane or signal. Just straight and a new dedicated right-turn lane. Also, remember the 518 entrance to the Promenade. Most folks in town will use that and completely avoid 206. Fingers crossed. :)
 

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Those 2 large light-to-light loops roads are going to help a lot. No more left hand turns from 206. No more left hand turning lane or signal. Just straight and a new dedicated right-turn lane. Also, remember the 518 entrance to the Promenade. Most folks in town will use that and completely avoid 206. Fingers crossed. :)
It dont know i think it will still be bad
 
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And honestly, there still isn't any hope for completion. The project is 3 parts:

Part 1: The actual bypass (shortened, but completed)
Part 2: Widening from the bypass to the CSX train bridge near Camplain Road (delayed, but ongoing)
Part 3: Replacement of the CSX train bridge

Part 3 is the MOST important part of the project and is the biggest pinch-point on 206 in Hillsborough. This work is NOT even funding yet. LOL! The road widening work is completely pointless until the train bridge is replaced.
I don't know about you, but I blame the last 20 years of Montgomery mayors for everything.

Also, why can't they create some kind of access road from 518 to access the back of the Shoprite complex? I have no idea what's back there but I'm guessing it's homeowner land? Also, when will the Panera/Shake Shack be open?
 
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I don't know about you, but I blame the last 20 years of Montgomery mayors for everything.

Also, why can't they create some kind of access road from 518 to access the back of the Shoprite complex? I have no idea what's back there but I'm guessing it's homeowner land? Also, when will the Panera/Shake Shack be open?
What about PJ Pancake House when is that opening and when will Tigers Tale be moved? And that WaWa has to be the most run down in all of NJ
 

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I don't know about you, but I blame the last 20 years of Montgomery mayors for everything.

Also, why can't they create some kind of access road from 518 to access the back of the Shoprite complex? I have no idea what's back there but I'm guessing it's homeowner land? Also, when will the Panera/Shake Shack be open?
Maybe because the land behind and adjacent to the SR complex is a different freaking town. LOL! I think the mayor before me tried to create a 518 entrance but Rocky Hill had issues with the proposed plan.

However, the Whole Foods/Promenade will have a very convenient 518 entrance for folks coming from the west/Hopewell. :)
Wonder, Shake Shack, Panera, WF, and Ulta should all open within 2-3 months. I think Panera will be first.
 
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What about PJ Pancake House when is that opening and when will Tigers Tale be moved? And that WaWa has to be the most run down in all of NJ
Wawa has been desperately trying to get a new location and enough land for a modern complex for 15 years. We spoke with them about every side of that intersection and their attempts to buy the land. Old Texaco/parts store. The bank on the Promenade side. The existing Shell station and lawn mover business! The lawn mover guy refused to sell to Wawa. LOL!

I believe all the plans for a new TT fell apart. Not sure they are moving anymore. The Promenade offered Cory a brand new building, but it didn't work out for some reason. PJ's was delayed for 6 months due to the developer/financing but it's all been worked out. Look for PJ's to open later in the summer.
 

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Anybody else have good traffic content about the highways and byways here in the crowded Garden State?
sure Glad that mess at the High Crest Bridge has been resolved its smooth sailing now.
 

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Wawa has been desperately trying to get a new location and enough land for a modern complex for 15 years. We spoke with them about every side of that intersection and their attempts to buy the land. Old Texaco/parts store. The bank on the Promenade side. The existing Shell station and lawn mover business! The lawn mover guy refused to sell to Wawa. LOL!

I believe all the plans for a new TT fell apart. Not sure they are moving anymore. The Promenade offered Cory a brand new building, but it didn't work out for some reason. PJ's was delayed for 6 months due to the developer/financing but it's all been worked out. Look for PJ's to open later in the summer.
I dont know why Hillsborough couldnt get wawa to take over Exxon on Triangle and build there
 
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Last time I was there people were waving Confederate flags on Amwell & 206. The bad element is there already. Hope that wasn't you.
No community is safe from paid protesters on any side of an issue. Just modern society. FYI, you live in a much more rebel yell area of the state. LOL!
 

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No community is safe from paid protesters on any side of an issue. Just modern society. FYI, you live in a much more rebel yell area of the state. LOL!
Paid or not, which I doubt in Hillsborough, a bit jarring to see in 2026 in any part of NJ. It was absolutely disgusting.

Yes I know that but depends which town in HC. Where I am, the river towns, and others are not.
 

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Paid or not, which I doubt in Hillsborough, a bit jarring to see in 2026 in any part of NJ. It was absolutely disgusting.

Yes I know that but depends which town in HC. Where I am, the river towns, and others are not.
The same “protesters” were also in Princeton for another professionally organized ICE event. Both sides feed off each other.

Regardless, way more confederate flags per capita in HC than Hillsborough. Hey, speaking of HC. Read an article that says Hunterdon Central HS enrollment is down by 1/3 over the past decade. Wow. Even with current demographic changes (less births) that’s still a huge decline. Does HC even need 3 high schools? My daughter plays against South Hunterdon quite a bit. That school population seems a little light as well.
 

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The same “protesters” were also in Princeton for another professionally organized ICE event. Both sides feed off each other.

Regardless, way more confederate flags per capita in HC than Hillsborough. Hey, speaking of HC. Read an article that says Hunterdon Central HS enrollment is down by 1/3 over the past decade. Wow. Even with current demographic changes (less births) that’s still a huge decline. Does HC even need 3 high schools? My daughter plays against South Hunterdon quite a bit. That school population seems a little light as well.

I don't want to hijack the thread any longer but yes I saw that article as well. I would imagine they could consolidate but then some students could have a decent commute which I'm sure would be opposed. I think at minimum maybe South Hunterdon and DelVal could be combined and then maybe North and Voorhees but that is only off the top of my head.

Last thing I will say is that Kasia is a great place! Some really good stuff in there.
 
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I don't want to hijack the thread any longer but yes I saw that article as well. I would imagine they could consolidate but then some students could have a decent commute which I'm sure would be opposed. I think at minimum maybe South Hunterdon and DelVal could be combined and then maybe North and Voorhees but that is only off the top of my head.

Last thing I will say is that Kasia is a great place! Some really good stuff in there.
Yes, Kasia is awesome. I know the owner very well. It's been a great additional to the community and the complex is starting to fill out nicely. My little one and her neighborhood crew go to the Hungry Tiger Cafe all the time!
 
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Whats going on with that ridiculous solar panel forest planned by the municipal building
 

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Last time I was there people were waving Confederate flags on Amwell & 206. The bad element is there already. Hope that wasn't you.
Lol if only those people had a "Hate Has No Place Here" or "Free Palestine" yard sign instead, that's better.