“Risk of Attack Is Too High”

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Will crazy fuel prices and associated higher inflation help or hurt MAGA candidates heading into the midterms? I don't have a good feel for this, can anyone help me? thx
I think it will hurt, but generally, we don’t do things because of what the emotions of the polls say. We do things because it’s the right thing to do, regardless of the political fallout.

Hillary’s policies fluctuated with the polls, ditto for Kamala, and Biden. Why? Because they didn’t believe in anything but the consolidation of power.
 

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I think it will hurt, but generally, we don’t do things because of what the emotions of the polls say. We do things because it’s the right thing to do, regardless of the political fallout.

Hillary’s policies fluctuated with the polls, ditto for Kamala, and Biden. Why? Because they didn’t believe in anything but the consolidation of power.

That's exactly why this problem went on for 48 years. Too many people worried about polls and not doing the right thing.
 
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Will crazy fuel prices and associated higher inflation help or hurt MAGA candidates heading into the midterms? I don't have a good feel for this, can anyone help me? thx
Based on data from 2021 through early 2025, the average gas price during the Biden administration has generally fluctuated between $3.50 and $4.00 per gallon. While gas prices hit a record national average peak of over $5.00 per gallon in June 2022, they later stabilized and declined in subsequent years.
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Key details regarding gasoline prices during this period include:
  • Highest Point: The national average peaked above $5.00 per gallon in June 2022.
  • Lowest Point: The lowest point in the term occurred around early 2021, when the average was approximately $2.39–$2.42 per gallon.
  • Trend: Prices remained above $3 per gallon for almost the entire presidency.
  • Comparison: As of late 2024, gas prices had fallen, but they were generally higher than the average seen during the previous administration.
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The rise in prices was largely attributed to factors such as the COVID-19 pandemic's impact on supply and demand, as well as the Russian invasion of Ukraine.
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Great that we knocked out all their boats....Now we should knock out their drones.

Maybe we should attack the people that are STILL attacking ships AND ships are still being attacked by drones launched by Iran
I think the biggest threat in the gulf is the sea mines.
 
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I totally support EVERYTHING President Trump is doing. My beef is with the war planners....they totally missed on the Iranian missile and drone capability.
I promise you that President Trump is not happy with some of his generals.
I don't think we missed on the drone capability. We have the technology on our ships to combat it. The problem is we don't have enough of the tech to escort every oil tanker.
 

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Hours ago, U.S. forces successfully employed multiple 5,000-pound deep penetrator munitions on hardened Iranian missile sites along Iran’s coastline near the Strait of Hormuz. The Iranian anti-ship cruise missiles in these sites posed a risk to international shipping in the strait.
 

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Iranian intelligence minister killed in precision airstrike, while US military targets missile sites​

Iran’s Minister of Intelligence Esmaeil Khatib was killed overnight in a precision strike, a senior Israeli official told Fox News. U.S. Central Command said Tuesday night that U.S. forces struck Iranian missile sites along the country’s coastline near the Strait of Hormuz using powerful deep-penetrating munitions.
 
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I think it will hurt, but generally, we don’t do things because of what the emotions of the polls say. We do things because it’s the right thing to do, regardless of the political fallout.

Hillary’s policies fluctuated with the polls, ditto for Kamala, and Biden. Why? Because they didn’t believe in anything but the consolidation of power.

NATO Countries are proving they have no military and are worthless. At this point I'm ok with Trump taking his time to show that. Time to stop wasting money on them. Matter of fact I'm good with him shutting the Strait Down until we are finished. Don't let anything out until our so called Allies get their **** together and learn to fight again.

Lol...also an option.





HOLY CRAP. President Trump is now considering PULLING OUT from the Strait of Hormuz after defeating Iran, forcing our “allies” to defend it themselves No free rides! “I wonder what would happen if we “finished off” what’s left of the Iranian Terror State, and let the Countries that use it, we don’t, be responsible for the so called “Straight?” That would get some of our non-responsive “Allies” in gear, and fast!!! President DJT”
 
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DUBAI, United Arab Emirates (TNND) — Ali Larijani, a top Iranian security official and leader within the country, was killed in an Israeli strike, Iranian authorities confirmed on Tuesday.
 
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I don't think we missed on the drone capability. We have the technology on our ships to combat it. The problem is we don't have enough of the tech to escort every oil tanker.
My problem is that we still have NOT knocked out their drones and missiles. If we knocked out the missiles and drones AT the source there would be no need to escort any ship.
 
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Hours ago, U.S. forces successfully employed multiple 5,000-pound deep penetrator munitions on hardened Iranian missile sites along Iran’s coastline near the Strait of Hormuz. The Iranian anti-ship cruise missiles in these sites posed a risk to international shipping in the strait.

Hopefully this will take care of the drone and missile problem...should have been a priority at the start.
 
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Hopefully this will take care of the drone and missile problem...should have been a priority at the start.

It takes care of more terrorist. You need to stop crying about the strait. I hope Trump shuts it down himself. China and are so called allies need it open more than we do. If they want open faster maybe they should do something about it.
 

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It takes care of more terrorist. You need to stop crying about the strait. I hope Trump shuts it down himself. China and are so called allies need it open more than we do. If they want open faster maybe they should do something about it.
You are a idiot or suffer from brain damage.....My issue is with the DRONES and MISSILE SITES.....what part don't you understand ? You are the one that is obsessed with the strait...not me.

You need to stop posting 24/7 and get a life.
 

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You are a idiot or suffer from brain damage.....My issue is with the DRONES and MISSILE SITES.....what part don't you understand ? You are the one that is obsessed with the strait...not me.

You need to stop posting 24/7 and get a life.

You're the brain dead idiot constantly complaining about the strait and **** you don't understand. Obviously proving you lied about ever serving in the Military. You don't even understand basic **** about warfare. How about you stop posting like you are the second coming of Patton and STFU and let the DOW under Trump handle this. They have alot more information than you do. The big picture you are not seeing or just bitching and complaining to do so.
 

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You are a idiot or suffer from brain damage.....My issue is with the DRONES and MISSILE SITES.....what part don't you understand ? You are the one that is obsessed with the strait...not me.

You need to stop posting 24/7 and get a life.

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Acts like we are playing this.

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You're the brain dead idiot constantly complaining about the strait and **** you don't understand. Obviously proving you lied about ever serving in the Military. You don't even understand basic **** about warfare. How about you stop posting like you are the second coming of Patton and STFU and let the DOW under Trump handle this. They have alot more information than you do. The big picture you are not seeing or just bitching and complaining to do so.
I served in the military....probably longer than you did. I'm beginning to think you are the fraud.
 

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I served in the military....probably longer than you did. I'm beginning to think you are the fraud.

No you didn't or you wouldn't be attempting to play Monday Morning QB 18 days into this. Now go watch Tulsi Gabbard's opening statement in front of Congress currently happening and learn something.
 
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bornaneer

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No you didn't or you wouldn't be attempting to play Monday Morning QB 18 days into this. Now go watch Tulsi Gabbard's opening statement in front of Congress currently happening and learn something.
I don't Play Monday morning QB.....I simply want to see a problem taken care of.

I totally support what President Trump is doing.

You constantly post sh*t that has zero to do with the subject at hand. A poster posted good info about how the war is being handled and you reply with an article about INFLATION....and you do this all the time. You think you get "extra credit" for that kind of crap?
 

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I don't Play Monday morning QB.....I simply want to see a problem taken care of.

I totally support what President Trump is doing.

You constantly post sh*t that has zero to do with the subject at hand. A poster posted good info about how the war is being handled and you reply with an article about INFLATION....and you do this all the time. You think you get "extra credit" for that kind of crap?

Everything is connected and it definitely has Everything to do with the subject at hand. You sound like the Democrats currently questioning Gabbard looking to nitpick anything that goes wrong to blame Trump. The war is being handled great so far and what has been accomplished this quickly is a testament to our Military currently in the fight. Anyone who has any training on how to shape a battlefield knows that and if they say otherwise they are lying or playing politics.
 

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He's mad because his CCP friends and Europe are upset. No **** it's going to be closed while we are bombing their ***. If they want it done faster they can join the fight. Until then STFU and Centcom will let you know when they are ready to get it open. Unlike the rest of the world Islamic Jihadist don't quit as easily.






JUST IN: DNI Tulsi Gabbard FIRES BACK when Dem Sen. Mark Warner demands she disclose private briefings she had with President Trump SEN. WARNER: Did you brief the president if he starts a war of choice that the likely result would be Iran would strike adjacent Gulf nations, and close the Strait of Hormuz? GABBARD: I have not and WON'T divulge internal conversations! I will say those of us within the Intel Community provide the president with ALL the best intel available to inform his decisions. What a dumb question.
 

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She was there because she's looking into if the CCP, Venezuela, Russia, and Iran interfered in our elections. You idiots kept saying Russia did so might as well check it all out.






HOLY CRAP! Democrat Sen. Mark Warner just PANICKED that DNI Tulsi Gabbard was on-scene when the FBI seized Fulton County, Georgia 2020 ballots for potential election fraud "I was at Fulton at the request of the president to observe this action that had LONG been awaited." *Warner gets angry* "This occurred the day the FBI had their warrant approved by a local judge." They do NOT want the Trump admin busting voter fraud! Keep pushing!
 

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Hey NATO Stop talking and get busy doing.






BREAKING: After pressure from President Trump, NATO SecGen Mark Rutte says allies are RUSHING to find a way to secure the Strait of Hormuz "I have been in contact with many allies...Strait has to open!" "Allies are discussing how to do that. What is the best way to do it, they are working to find a way forward." Rutte KNOWS Trump means business, and Trump just threatened to pull away from the Strait entirely and let it fall on our "allies" to secure it LESS TALK, MORE ACTION! Our allies must pull their weight!
 

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NATO Countries are proving they have no military and are worthless. At this point I'm ok with Trump taking his time to show that. Time to stop wasting money on them. Matter of fact I'm good with him shutting the Strait Down until we are finished. Don't let anything out until our so called Allies get their **** together and learn to fight again.

Lol...also an option.





HOLY CRAP. President Trump is now considering PULLING OUT from the Strait of Hormuz after defeating Iran, forcing our “allies” to defend it themselves No free rides! “I wonder what would happen if we “finished off” what’s left of the Iranian Terror State, and let the Countries that use it, we don’t, be responsible for the so called “Straight?” That would get some of our non-responsive “Allies” in gear, and fast!!! President DJT”



If they don't get busy we need to dissolve Nato as in its worthless to us and should reconfirm why alot of our families left Europe in the first place.






BREAKING: After pressure from President Trump, NATO SecGen Mark Rutte says allies are RUSHING to find a way to secure the Strait of Hormuz "I have been in contact with many allies...Strait has to open!" "Allies are discussing how to do that. What is the best way to do it, they are working to find a way forward." Rutte KNOWS Trump means business, and Trump just threatened to pull away from the Strait entirely and let it fall on our "allies" to secure it LESS TALK, MORE ACTION! Our allies must pull their weight!
 

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You are a idiot or suffer from brain damage.....My issue is with the DRONES and MISSILE SITES.....what part don't you understand ? You are the one that is obsessed with the strait...not me.

You need to stop posting 24/7 and get a life.

Trump isn't the one who needs your support right now. History will prove he did the right thing. **** past History already shows that. There's another group in the area that needs everyone's support. Hence my aggravation with many right now. That includes some on the right and some that seem to only care about Markets and future elections. If that's not you then I apologize. I'm seeing alot of it right now and it's beyond stupid and selfish as in anyone paying attention understands Iran had it coming and the CCP's Belt to Road initiative is taking a beating this year.
 

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Option A is they aren't saying anything because some of our own political class are being Investigated for being involved and covering it up. That's why they are pressing because they want that out now so they can cry to the media.

Option B people are attempting to avoid conflict at all cost with China. If it's that everyone needs fired regardless if we like them or not. Can't play that game.






JOHN SOLOMON: Tulsi Gabbard Needs To Use The FACTS! We Were Told For 6 Years There Were No Foreign Intrusions In Our Election. Now There Are Indictments Over Iran Hacking One Voter Database And Evidence China Penetrated Voter Databases In 18 States!​

 

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Every Branch of the military has this. The information they are gathering right now will advance capabilities rapidly.



The Navy Lessons Learned Program (NLLP), governed by OPNAVINST 3500.37E, is a structured, five-phase process (discovery, validation, resolution, evaluation, dissemination) designed to improve operational readiness, safety, and effectiveness across the fleet. It aligns with the "Get Real, Get Better" mindset, focusing on self-assessment and continuous improvement by capturing, analyzing, and sharing insights from operations and exercises.
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Key Aspects of the NLLP:
  • Purpose: The Navy Warfare Development Command (NWDC) manages the program, which focuses on enhancing doctrine, training, and operational performance.
  • Process: The five phases are Discovery (collecting data), Validation (verifying the lesson), Resolution (finding a solution), Evaluation (measuring the solution's impact), and Dissemination (sharing the lesson).
  • System (NLLIS): The Navy Lessons Learned Information System (NLLIS) is the primary database for storing and accessing these reports, which include after-action reports and observations.
  • Scope: It includes both shore commands and fleet-level operations, and it integrates with joint-level lessons learned to improve overall warfighting capability.
  • Accessibility: Lessons are available through a CAC-enabled, user-friendly interface, ensuring that sailors and personnel can learn from past experiences.
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Lessons Learned mentioned in press conference. Around 29 min mark.



 

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Good news:

The U.S. and its regional allies have deployed 64 Apache helicopters in a mission to take down Iran's fleet of one-way attack drones, the Pentagon announced Thursday.

Join Chiefs Chairman Gen. Dan Caine made the announcement during a press conference alongside War Secretary Pete Hegseth.

The pair said U.S. forces have begun using "stand-in" style weapons as opposed to the long-range "standoff" weapons seen earlier in the operation.
 

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The US-Israeli operation in Iran is a historic opportunity to neutralize the Middle East's greatest destabilizer over the past four decades.

What frustrates senior Gulf officials, as Iran aims missiles and drones at their citizens and countries, is that too many in Washington are making the war a matter of US domestic politics and President Donald Trump. For them, what’s at stake is whether the Middle East moves in a uniquely positive direction or reverts to a more familiar, uglier one.

Some officials in these countries argued privately against Trump’s decision to go to war alongside Israel. Others argued in favor. But none of those I spoke with now want the United States to cut and run before the job is done. Even those Gulf officials wary of escalation (and that includes most of those I spoke to) see this war as the culmination of a long trajectory that required a response at some point—before the balance of power tilted irretrievably in Iran’s direction.

At this time of war without an obvious end, that vision sounds fantastical. But it is seemingly impossible developments like this one that could become reality, serving both US interests and those of its regional partners, if the Trump administration sees through the mission in Iran that it has set out for itself.


 
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That should get our so called Allies attention.





BREAKING: President Trump announces the US is ON THE VERGE of 100% completing the Iran war, and that America will NOT be responsible for securing the Strait of Hormuz once it's won "We are getting very close to meeting our objectives as we consider WINDING DOWN our great Military efforts..." NO FREE RIDES! "The Hormuz Strait will have to be guarded and policed, as necessary, by other Nations who use it — The United States does not!" "If asked, we will help these Countries in their Hormuz efforts, but it shouldn’t be necessary once Iran’s threat is eradicated. Importantly, it will be an easy Military Operation for them."
 
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