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Instead of playing useless teams like JSU & Alcorn, why not play ECCC & PRCC instead- since they are better at baseball?

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Why waste time playing those two swac schools? It’s a complete waste of time. EMCC and PRCC both are better and would beat those swac schools. It would still be instate so we’d still be paying out and wasting money to an instate school still at least. It would be a great recruiting evaluation opportunity for us. It would help those two recruit and bring in even more talent knowing we’re on their schedule every year, and it’s be a great experience for the kids on those two teams. Why don’t we do this instead of playing those inferior swac schools? What would be the downsides to doing this?
 
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bulldoghair said:
Why waste time playing those two swac schools? It’s a complete waste of time. EMCC and PRCC both are better and would beat those swac schools. It would still be instate so we’d still be paying out and wasting money to an instate school still at least. It would be a great recruiting evaluation opportunity for us. It would help those two recruit and bring in even more talent knowing we’re on their schedule every year, and it’s be a great experience for the kids on those two teams. Why don’t we do this instead of playing those inferior swac schools? What would be the downsides to doing this?
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Probably because it wouldn't even count as an official game....
 
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bulldoghair said:
Count for what? It’s a non-conference game. These meaningless SWAC games barely would count anyway. So why not the switch the better instate teams instead?
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It doesn’t count for RPi. Which is better than playing Alcorn but not better than playing JSU. They are a pretty decent RPI game considering we can also get underused pitchers some work
 
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8dog said:
It doesn’t count for RPi. Which is better than playing Alcorn but not better than playing JSU. They are a pretty decent RPI game considering we can also get underused pitchers some work
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RPI is pretty much meaningless in March. No one is looking at RPI that early because it doesn’t matter. February and March wouod be the times to just swap these games out is what I’m saying. Play EMCC and PRCC instead of the swac teams. You’d still get those same underused pitchers some work- Lord knows we need that for sure. So it seems like a no brainer upgrade since RPI isn’t what matters the most anyway- especially in March.
 
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Uhhh those are junior colleges. They aren't 4 year colleges so there's no way that could happen. PRCC has a great baseball program and I love watching them play, but they certainly aren't going to play an SEC squad. The annual game they play against the Shuckers is just an exhibition game for both teams.
 
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3 games this season against SWAC teams is beyond ridiculous. Not sure who the genius was that scheduled that many (hopefully was already done before BOC got here) but they are a waste of time and are hits to the RPI. Two would be more than enough. Look at USM's schedule, they don't play any. I know they probably can't afford to with playing a Sun Belt conference schedule, but they find plenty of other non-conference teams to play without loading up on SWAC teams. We should be able to find other teams as well. And playing Grambling is totally moronic, at least with the others you could make the excuse you were helping out MS universities.
 
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bulldoghair said:
RPI is pretty much meaningless in March. No one is looking at RPI that early because it doesn’t matter. February and March wouod be the times to just swap these games out is what I’m saying. Play EMCC and PRCC instead of the swac teams. You’d still get those same underused pitchers some work- Lord knows we need that for sure. So it seems like a no brainer upgrade since RPI isn’t what matters the most anyway- especially in March.
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All the games into the year end rpi. It doesnt matter when you play them.
 
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bulldoghair said:
RPI is pretty much meaningless in March. No one is looking at RPI that early because it doesn’t matter. February and March wouod be the times to just swap these games out is what I’m saying. Play EMCC and PRCC instead of the swac teams. You’d still get those same underused pitchers some work- Lord knows we need that for sure. So it seems like a no brainer upgrade since RPI isn’t what matters the most anyway- especially in March.
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Is this a long played troll game or are you that 17ing stupid.
 
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bulldoghair said:
Why waste time playing those two swac schools? It’s a complete waste of time. EMCC and PRCC both are better and would beat those swac schools. It would still be instate so we’d still be paying out and wasting money to an instate school still at least. It would be a great recruiting evaluation opportunity for us. It would help those two recruit and bring in even more talent knowing we’re on their schedule every year, and it’s be a great experience for the kids on those two teams. Why don’t we do this instead of playing those inferior swac schools? What would be the downsides to doing this?
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Your dumbassery is only surpassed by your mastery of idiocy.
 
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8dog said:
All the games into the year end rpi. It doesnt matter when you play them.
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That’s not true according to the experts that argued me down about that here in this thread 👇🏻
www.on3.com

What SHOULD we be ranked when the new polls come out? Then, what we will actually be ranked?

?
www.on3.com www.on3.com

RPI is meaningless and worthless in March- It’s not the metric that matters the most according to them.

Even it did- these SWAC games give almost zero RPI boost anyway- so the net RPI would be neutral. You lose nothing in RPI, but you also gain nothing extra either compared to swapping these games to the two JUCOS. So much benefits to swapping, it would be smarter baseball for the same price.
 
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bulldoghair said:
It’s not illegal to play them. Others do it around the country
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I don't think anyone was saying that it's illegal. My point was that playing a non-NCAA team would not count as an actual game. It would be no different than a fall exhibition game.
 
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bulldoghair said:
That’s not true according to the experts that argued me down about that here in this thread 👇🏻
www.on3.com

What SHOULD we be ranked when the new polls come out? Then, what we will actually be ranked?

?
www.on3.com www.on3.com

RPI is meaningless and worthless in March- It’s not the metric that matters the most according to them.

Even it did- these SWAC games give almost zero RPI boost anyway- so the net RPI would be neutral. You lose nothing in RPI, but you also gain nothing extra either compared to swapping these games to the two JUCOS. So much benefits to swapping, it would be smarter baseball for the same price.
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Just stick to your other username instead of all this nonsense
 
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DesotoCountyDawg said:
Is this a long played troll game or are you that 17ing stupid.
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The Cooterpoot said:
Your dumbassery is only surpassed by your mastery of idiocy.
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You’d get:
Same negligible RPI impact. Better competition for development. Stronger in state recruiting pipeline- JUCOs feed SEC rosters. More meaningful experience for JUCO kids. Same cost- guarantee money still paid to in-state schools. How you two nerds not agree with thís? Or are you disagreeing just to disagree with me personally?
 
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John Deaux VII said:
I don't think anyone was saying that it's illegal. My point was that playing a non-NCAA team would not count as an actual game. It would be no different than a fall exhibition game.
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Nothing meaningful is wrong with having 2 fewer “official” games on the schedule. Losing them changes nothing measurable. You’d still have the same RPI/SOS impact- maybe even better.
 
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bulldoghair said:
That’s not true according to the experts that argued me down about that here in this thread 👇🏻
www.on3.com

What SHOULD we be ranked when the new polls come out? Then, what we will actually be ranked?

?
www.on3.com www.on3.com

RPI is meaningless and worthless in March- It’s not the metric that matters the most according to them.

Even it did- these SWAC games give almost zero RPI boost anyway- so the net RPI would be neutral. You lose nothing in RPI, but you also gain nothing extra either compared to swapping these games to the two JUCOS. So much benefits to swapping, it would be smarter baseball for the same price.
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SWAC games lower your RPI because they lower your strength of schedule rating. That is not even debatable. RPI is more about how your opponent's fare and how your opponent's opponents fare than it is about your own W-L results. Heck, why do you think teams routinely cancel late season low RPI games whenever possible? It's to avoid the RPI hit you take by just playing these SWAC type schools even when you win.
 
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maroonmania said:
SWAC games lower your RPI because they lower your strength of schedule rating. That is not even debatable. RPI is more about how your opponent's fare and how your opponent's opponents fare than it is about your own W-L results. Heck, why do you think teams routinely cancel late season low RPI games whenever possible? It's to avoid the RPI hit you take by just playing these SWAC type schools even when you win.
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Exactly. Shows these confident experts on here don’t know what they’re talking about. Swapping these swac games to those two JUCO games would be a no brainer in that regard. And more fun.
 
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maroonmania said:
It would actually be better to play them. They are probably better competition and they wouldn't count in the RPI.
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EMCC would probably tear up our mid week pitching and bullpen- They’re averaging over 13 runs per game. If we played them it would look like a football game score.
 
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EMCC would probably tear up our mid week pitching and bullpen- They’re averaging over 13 runs per game. If we played them it would look like a football game score.
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EMCC is 9-18 scoring 5 runs a game. Think you got your teams mixed up. Plus it doesn't matter how many runs they are scoring, because they are playing other shi tty juco teams.
 
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bulldoghair said:
EMCC would probably tear up our mid week pitching and bullpen- They’re averaging over 13 runs per game. If we played them it would look like a football game score.
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I don’t think these Fr/So only teams would fare nearly as well as you think
 
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muddawgs said:
EMCC is 9-18 scoring 5 runs a game. Think you got your teams mixed up. Plus it doesn't matter how many runs they are scoring, because they are playing other shi tty juco teams.
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I don’t think these Fr/So only teams would fare nearly as well as you think
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No- you are mixed up. East Central Community College is currently 25-5 overall and averaging over 13 runs per game. They would smoke all the SWAC D1 teams that we play.
 
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maroontide06 said:
That's not an actual game. When do actual games that count in the W/L column get played in October? That's not when actual baseball season is.
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Not an actual game? Well they were keeping score. If we played PRCC or ECCC in October or February or March it wouldn’t count as an “actual game” on the record, but it would still be a real game. The point remains it would still be better and more beneficial to play both of them in place of those SWAC teams on our schedule.
 
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bulldoghair said:
Your whole rebuttal is just calling ideas stupid without explaining why- maybe the stupidity is… projecting?
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There is no rebuttal for stubborn stupidity. It must be mocked until the idiot just retreats (or gets banned).

You've been rebutted multiple times here, but experience with you indicates that will change nothing in your mind.
 
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She Mate Me said:
There is no rebuttal for stubborn stupidity. It must be mocked until the idiot just retreats (or gets banned).

You've been rebutted multiple times here, but experience with you indicates that will change nothing in your mind.
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You’ve personally dodged the entire thread- aside from name calling. No one- not you or anyone else has dropped a single factual, evidence based rebuttal showing that dropping SWAC games would hurt our RPI. In fact, the opposite keeps getting reinforced- that SWAC opponents are low RPI drags that tank SOS even when you win big anyway. Those midweek guarantee games give negligible or negative RPI value- So swapping them out loses almost nothing measurable on paper. So who cares that the JUCO swaps wouldn’t count as an official game since they wouldn’t ding the RPI anyways. In return they wouod provide better competition- Real development reps for midweek arms/bullpen- Better excitement and instate recruiting analysis- And same payout structure money staying in MS.

What are the downsides- with evidence?

If nothing, then the “point” stands strong, and mocking it just highlights you’ve got nothing substantive.

PS- your “mock until they retreat or get banned” strategy is starting to look like the real problem here- a problem that should be banned.
 
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