What potential do you see in Pope? Guy is in his 50s with tons of datapoints to show he's not it. To me, the implication Pope has a higher ceiling than Golden seems ludicrous, would like to understand what you see in Pope.
You Would Take Todd Golden Next Year Over Pope And You Know It.
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I didn’t say anything about Pope having a higher ceiling than Golden. Re-read what you replied to. I’ve long past quit taking the time to explain what I see in Pope. Had the same conversation with Eagle and Ortho. I took about 45 minutes to explain in a very detailed fashion and heard nothing back. Was a waste of my time. Most people are cemented on their opinion on the topic already and you most certainly are.
I actually think that’s what he mirrors his personality to project. In real life he’s just a quiet little punk who would run from the first person that stepped up to him
The way some people think is just dense.
Golden lost to Vandy, he's bad. But then those same people still want Pope. Or if Golden would of won, he's so good omg.
I look at things from a bigger picture. I don't flip flop like some of you on here.
Golden lost to Vandy, he's bad. But then those same people still want Pope. Or if Golden would of won, he's so good omg.
I look at things from a bigger picture. I don't flip flop like some of you on here.
Walter Clayton isn't coming back and didn't he stalk women? He is becoming hurley ish without winning two in a row.
No, I would not. I want to see Golden without Hausz, Condon and company. Next year will be telling for Mr. Golden.
I want to see Mark Pope with a healthy roster. Last season down 3 starters in the tournament (Butler and Carr were 50%)
This season: Down 3 starters.
He’s a perv. Fla bought off the girls and misdirected the investigation
Do we really want a MOIST alpha though?? I have reservations
Yep he develops players like Pitino. He can develop a game plan to shut down the other teams best player like Pitino. He’s got the Cal swag. He’s young and would make Kentucky a contender every year.
Yeah he’s a lost puppy. Poor guy can’t win the sec tourney. I guess he will have to be content with the regular season championship and reigning national champion and a # 1 seed. Good grief man!
Golden brought a young gritty Florida into Rupp three years ago and beat us easily, we had a good team that year. You could see his attitude and potential then. Having said that, I thought Lamont Paris was gonna be the next big name. I was highly impressed with him, his team and talent fell off big time but he knows ball. I also liked Gregg Marshall and his crazy *** wife. I might not be the best judge.
I have repeatedly said that I was impressed with Florida but today was not one of those days. I was talking about a single game in which Golden was outcoached and beaten by an inferior team. Is it that hard to understand or do I need draw you a picture?
My phone strikes againDo we really want a MOIST alpha though?? I have reservations
This! We were their Super Bowl, even though they had already beaten us twice this season. One can verify this by their play and energy against us and by their coach’s comments in regards to Kentucky. It’s comical.
EDIT: Golden has an absolute HARDON for UK. It’s really weird.
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Don’t forget, we also lost Kerr to a season ending injury as well. So, Kerr and Robinson completely out and Butler and Carr were nowhere near 100%. Hell, Butler was playing with one arm. Sucks, because that was a hell of a team when healthy.
LOL Kerr could have played in the tourney but wanted another season.
Meh. That is irrelevant to the discussion. He didn’t play another game after said injury. I can’t really blame him. We weren’t going anywhere without a healthy Robinson, Butler and Carr anyway.
I thought it was ****** of him when Butler could barely move and still gave it everything. A quitter like Wheeler.
Please draw me a picture. He lost so what?? Apparently a big deal for you. I didn’t realize the better teams always win unless your coach is Golden. My bad
Most successful coaches have a lot more maturity than Golden does. That team was on a mission to beat UK and forgot that if they won, they would be playing again the next day. Most coaches would approach it as "just another game." As you said, "We were their Super Bowl." That thinking might work during the regular season when you have a few days between games but doesn't work in a tournament playing another game a day later.
When you don’t hear back from me it’s usually because I get it. Understand it. I know you stated the off and def efficiency numbers you wanted and I thought I gave the thumbs up.
Perhaps I missed a post also.
You had me untill "MOIST alphas"
Bottom line this mess. Are there any coach in the SEC that we would not try Pope for?
Yes sir it was a really potent team. Final 4 quality if healthy, IMO. Carr seemed to come alive in the big moments- its great to have a stretch 4 like him.
I agree. However, I also understand the reasoning as to why he didn’t come back and play. He’s not going to play in the NBA. Might as well make as much $ as possible while in college. Still, I think it was crappy he left us in a spot. I agree.
Agreed on all points. It’s beyond obvious we are still Florida’s Super Bowl. They didn’t play with 1% of the energy and focus today as they did against UK. It’s also clear that Golden has an absolute hardon for UK. Just listen to him talk. He went out of his way to make sure to tell the world that we’ve played three times and that UK hadn’t led even once. I mean, who does that?! It’s weird to the point of obsession.
I can’t stand their punkass players either. They act like jackasses on and off the court. Quite the disrespectful bunch. They’re now my most hated team in the SEC. I would pull for duke or the cheats over them.
Kentucky was up four in the last minute and Reed Sheppard played the worst defense I have ever seen late in that game. They won by three in OT. I'm not sure "easily" would be the word to use, here.
I mean. Yeah. Is this a real question. Kids can’t relate to Pope. Cal had that swag. And big connections. You know what I mean. How does all the Italian coaches do what they do ? Don’t be naive. We need s crook. Give me Pearl or Rick. But I’d take Golden or Oats
We need somebody with swag. An a**hole who’s cocky. This is UK. I miss Wall throwing up his clique and Boogie busting Louisville
Players noses.
You can say the same thing when Cal didn't have his star players. This argument is moot because it can be applied to any coach. The guys Golden got were not star players. He fixed positions and they excelled. Haugh is a 3 star player and now will be a lottery pick.
His first two seasons at Florida were far worse the Pope‘s first two here.
His first two seasons at Florida were far worse than Pope‘s two here.
Golden first two seasons at Florida….40-29….losing record his first year. Second season, 24-12…lost in first round of tournament.
Pope’s first two seasons here so far….45-25…first year he won two tournament games.
2nd season, definitely in the tournament again.
So, by your logic, Florida should have fired Golden after his second season. Sounds brilliant.
Would Todd Golden take you all?!
That’s the question that really needs to be asked on all these hot seat, short list, who is next threads!
No longer are we in an era of who does this program and fan base want, but the reverse.
Who in the hell wants xyz program?! Have seen it in football as well!
Gators wanted a lot of people. Turns out Sumrall was the only guy who wanted them!
Michigan probably had some hot names in mind. Ole Utah dude had a great career in the mountains where nobody cares. Not sure a retired guy was their first choice.
Bama wanted Lanning. He said “nah I’m good”
We wanted a list of dudes. Got one to actually come to Lexington and he couldn’t leave fast enough!
I’ll bet dollars to donuts if Self bows out Jayhawks will not get the top of wish list hot up and coming coach.
We actually got a top of wish list up and comer in football. Why!? Because as soon as Pope loses a game he’s good!
It’s why Bama, Florida got the coaches they got in BBall.
People actually think either one would leave those gravy trains for the crazy train!
Doboer and Sumrall lose 2 games all Golden Oats have to do is make the dance.
That’s the question that really needs to be asked on all these hot seat, short list, who is next threads!
No longer are we in an era of who does this program and fan base want, but the reverse.
Who in the hell wants xyz program?! Have seen it in football as well!
Gators wanted a lot of people. Turns out Sumrall was the only guy who wanted them!
Michigan probably had some hot names in mind. Ole Utah dude had a great career in the mountains where nobody cares. Not sure a retired guy was their first choice.
Bama wanted Lanning. He said “nah I’m good”
We wanted a list of dudes. Got one to actually come to Lexington and he couldn’t leave fast enough!
I’ll bet dollars to donuts if Self bows out Jayhawks will not get the top of wish list hot up and coming coach.
We actually got a top of wish list up and comer in football. Why!? Because as soon as Pope loses a game he’s good!
It’s why Bama, Florida got the coaches they got in BBall.
People actually think either one would leave those gravy trains for the crazy train!
Doboer and Sumrall lose 2 games all Golden Oats have to do is make the dance.