OT: Deliver Me From Nowhere (Springsteen Movie)
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Why Are Concert Tickets So Expensive? — GQ
It's not just you: It’s never been harder to buy a reasonably priced ticket to a major concert or a sporting event. Taylor Swift tours. Playoff baseball games. World Cup matches. Why does the market-from frenzied fights for exclusive drops to exorbitant resale prices-feel like such a colossal mess?
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“In our world, however, no market efficiency goes unpunished. As far back as the 1980s, the economist Milton M. Shapiro argued that rights holders’ “hidebound adherence to underpricing” ends up constituting an “open invitation to the ticket scalper” to enter the picture. Scalpers (called touts in the UK) buy up tickets never intending to go to an event, instead expressly seeking to resell them for profit. The greater the difference between face value and market value, the greater the incentive to scalp. So long as in-demand tickets have existed, it seems, fans, ticketers, and rights holders alike have had to learn to live with scalpers. ”
This is a pretty interesting article about why and how the reselling market prospers. And how very difficult it is to counter it. Underpricing isn’t the solution.
How is that possible ? He's friggin 76 years old.
As I said earlier...in a class by himself.
Watched the movie on the flight home today and have to say I kind of liked it. Granted I was on a plane and not necessarily a movie I’d pay to see in the theater but it certainly was entertaining. I thought both Jeremys did a good job
Why Are Concert Tickets So Expensive? — GQ
It's not just you: It’s never been harder to buy a reasonably priced ticket to a major concert or a sporting event. Taylor Swift tours. Playoff baseball games. World Cup matches. Why does the market-from frenzied fights for exclusive drops to exorbitant resale prices-feel like such a colossal mess?
“In our world, however, no market efficiency goes unpunished. As far back as the 1980s, the economist Milton M. Shapiro argued that rights holders’ “hidebound adherence to underpricing” ends up constituting an “open invitation to the ticket scalper” to enter the picture. Scalpers (called touts in the UK) buy up tickets never intending to go to an event, instead expressly seeking to resell them for profit. The greater the difference between face value and market value, the greater the incentive to scalp. So long as in-demand tickets have existed, it seems, fans, ticketers, and rights holders alike have had to learn to live with scalpers. ”
This is a pretty interesting article about why and how the reselling market prospers. And how very difficult it is to counter it. Underpricing isn’t the solution.
Worth a mention that the artists roll along nice with the high prices, and they hide behind complaints about the sellers. When Taylor Swift tickets were in the thousands Robert Smith was blasting Ticketmaster for dynamic pricing and Ticketmaster stopped. He also went after the scalpers. If fans stopped grabbing their ankles and over-paying for gigs the artists would respond. Taylor Swift and other big names with high costs could get ticket prices down with the snap of a finger.
The Swift shows were actually pretty good but not for $1000s. I saw a dozen of them - online. Some dedicated fans record shows from the best seats and post them on Reddit, YT and such. They are quite worth watching but you have to get gig uploads in a day or two before YT takes them down. I usually
Playing the clock helps with tickets. If you can wait until the time is running out the prices drop. If tickets run out online getting to gig before start has scalpers looking to get rid of last tickets. Its harder if buying a lot of tickets. I saw Bruce once and it was great but I cant see going 20 times or something. Now is voice is so jacked I wouldn't go for free. He still sounds good on Spotify.
Robert Smith Is 'Not Letting This Go' on Affordable Tickets
Robert Smith opened up about his viral battle to keep The Cure tickets cheap, weighing in on Ticketmaster and artists' power to price their tickets.
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Worth a mention that the artists roll along nice with the high prices, and they hide behind complaints about the sellers. When Taylor Swift tickets were in the thousands Robert Smith was blasting Ticketmaster for dynamic pricing and Ticketmaster stopped. He also went after the scalpers. If fans stopped grabbing their ankles and over-paying for gigs the artists would respond. Taylor Swift and other big names with high costs could get ticket prices down with the snap of a finger.
The Swift shows were actually pretty good but not for $1000s. I saw a dozen of them - online. Some dedicated fans record shows from the best seats and post them on Reddit, YT and such. They are quite worth watching but you have to get gig uploads in a day or two before YT takes them down. I usually
Playing the clock helps with tickets. If you can wait until the time is running out the prices drop. If tickets run out online getting to gig before start has scalpers looking to get rid of last tickets. Its harder if buying a lot of tickets. I saw Bruce once and it was great but I cant see going 20 times or something. Now is voice is so jacked I wouldn't go for free. He still sounds good on Spotify.
Robert Smith Is 'Not Letting This Go' on Affordable Tickets
Robert Smith opened up about his viral battle to keep The Cure tickets cheap, weighing in on Ticketmaster and artists' power to price their tickets.
Well said. I used to go to multiple concerts a week. Prices were fair and I enjoyed the scene. Now I grew up and know what a ripoff it has become post Covid. Easier to just not go. The scam is ridiculous. Artist blames Ticketbastard. Meanwhile still works for them. Local government hims and haws but nothing changes
The World Cup ticket overpricing disaster was equally predictable.
I can’t deal with big concerts anymore. One of the things I love about Key West is you can walk into most bars and see really good music and yes sometimes below average too but much more enjoyable
Long gone are the days back when I was in college, and for a while after, when you could walk down the street in New York and see someone great on the bill and pay less then ten bucks to see a quality band.
Fillmore East you are sorely missed.
Fillmore East you are sorely missed.
In NYC sure but that’s alive and well in places like Nashville and Key West
Quite a few good bands playing in AP and all around the shore. Different types of music free every night of the week somewhere, although moreso in the summer.
Club and theater shows are more enjoyable and much more reasonable. Tickets for bands that had hits in the 1990s in a club or theater often running $50 or less.
The Metallica Sphere on sale this week was ridiculous. Hard to find exact numbers, but some were saying tickets were going for $700 and higher.
He's wrong. Lots of people care what celebrities have to say. Except for idiots like him. Perhaps he should shut up himself and concentrate on painting his face, putting on a costume, and shooting flames out of his ***.
I always thought his band was a bunch of idiots with nothing to say.
Bon Jovi making a movie now
Bon Jovi Music Biopic in the Works at Universal
https://variety.com/2026/film/news/bon-jovi-movie-universal-1236683570/
Why Springsteen: Deliver Me From Nowhere Flopped At The Box Office - Looper
Although musical biopics have done well at the box office, "Springsteen: Deliver Me From Nowhere" failed to deliver. What happened?
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Massive flop. Lost millions LOL!
I saw Springsteen in Houston in 2009. I paid $25 each for two tickets on Stubhub (day of), standing center stage on the bicycle fence (first come first serve), about 10 feet from Bruce all night. Face value on the tickets were $95 each, so somebody got crushed trying to scalp (probably because it was a Wednesday night).
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Bruce Springsteen Setlist at Toyota Center, Houston
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Bad job by the author of the article in not even mentioning the factor of his political activism turning off many potential movie goers. I was a pretty big fan of Springsteen and his music, but because he cant help himself from speaking out on political issues, there is no way I would ever spend a dime on anything related to him again. Just boggles my mind that they think their opinions matter to anyone.Why Springsteen: Deliver Me From Nowhere Flopped At The Box Office - Looper
Although musical biopics have done well at the box office, "Springsteen: Deliver Me From Nowhere" failed to deliver. What happened?
Massive flop. Lost millions LOL!
It’s true that he has amped up his activism lately but his leanings have been obvious for decades. His recent activism has lost him some fans and gained him other ones. I doubt anyone knows whether he’s had a net gain or loss.
I really don’t want political opinions from celebrities, I also don’t want it in sports either as sports is an escape from that garbage. Don’t want to hear Bruce’s political opinions, just like I don’t want to hear Kid Rock’s political opinions, let’s have them shut their pie holes on both sides of the aisle.
You're gonna absolutely love Neil Young's new album. And him talking about it.
According to what you seem to be saying, no artist should have a tune about anything having to do with politics. And no one creating a movie should do one having anything at all to do with politics. And nobody should talk about any of that stuff.
Of course, my position is very different. I look for music and movies that speak to political issues. Mostly from points of view that I share. You know...the correct ones. Christ, my album collection would be much smaller if the records I have concerning the War in Vietnam, the draft, civil rights, and so many other political issues didn't exist. Speaking up is a good thing IMO.
BTW, you must be a big fan of Michael Moore movies. And him talking about the subjects of his movies.
same here. still enjoy most of his music. not interested in his opinions. dribble the ball b*tch, that's what i paid for.
you must be quite the fu*king party
Well, I'm 76 years old, so most of it's in the past.
But, yeah.
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The fans he lost weren't actually listening. If they were, they'd have dropped him a long time ago if his politics were that objectionable. People act like he just started being an activist.
Like me and several others I know, there is a generation of millions of people who despite his politics, are still fans of Springsteen’s music and still listen, but at the same time probably haven’t purchased concert tickets, CD’s or downloads in years. These folks would clearly have been potential customers of attending a movie, similar to the many people who bought tickets for the Dylan/ Freddie Mercury movies after not purchasing content by these artists for years. I think it would be pretty safe to assume his vocal political opinions have turned off a huge segment of this potential movie going fanbase and was a significant negative factor in the poor attendance.
I tend to agree with your post. I wasn’t dissuaded from attending solely by his politics. (I actually don’t even know it was released yet). I believe there is just a disinterest in the topic. And many who could have been audience members chose not to spend their money.
yet you’re talking about it AND his political views caused you to react this way “never spend a dime”. So it seems it truly DOES matter to YOU particularly
fwiw artists commenting on political and social issues is hardly new. It’s literally been the case for centuries across all types of art.
But if you wanna go-full-snowflake over Bruce because his politics trigger you, oh well , something tells me Bruce doesn’t mind
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I think it's funny how badly it flopped. He should do a sequel!
It’s common for people to become more conservative with age. Many now dislike that Bruce “has changed” not realizing that it is they who have changed. Bruce’s words and ideals that appealed to them when they were 20 don’t appeal to them now that they are 60. They want to believe that they still do, but their dislike of Bruce’s 2026 politics shows that they don’t.
For those who used to attend his concerts but don’t anymore, and mistakenly think Bruce has lost a big chunk of his fanbase and therefore has a smaller audience than he used to - well, you’ve been replaced. He has a very large following of young and youngish fans drawn to his message like you used to.
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I disagree. He has definitely amped up his politics and his displeasure with the person who shall not be named. Born in the USA was as political song, but it resonated more as an anti-war song than a song about any one party or person. Back in 2004 he and other artists did the Vote for Change tour, which was purportedly non-partisan, but it was clear which side they were on.
Lately, however, like Robert DeNiro, he is full on against one party and one person. To the point where he and his ilk were dead silent on various miscarriages of the prior administration(s), and they come off like one-party trick ponies. That is a big difference than in the past.
There a lot of hard core fans who never like or enjoyed the Nebraska album and still do not like the album, and that may be another major reason the movie did not sell well. I really like the Nebraska album and many of the themes of that album personally resonate with me, so I was interested in the movie. However, not enough to go to a movie theater. I waited until it came out in free version on Disney plus.
Everything you said is true. But as noted above, he has amped up his approach and focused on a person who shall not be named, who won in a landslide (IDGAS about popular vote) and still enjoys a decent popularity rating. The attacks are personal, and in several instances poorly supported and just other party talking points. A one-party trick pony he is. The other party NEVER does/did anything wrong? That's quite impossible.