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A stupid thread: Who would be best to take over for TnT?
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Not that I think that's making a huge difference, but just speaking to what I know of. It wasn't meant to be a testament to his recruiting prowess, just mentioning the ones I personally know of.
Maybe I'm stuck in the past. I remember Metcalf being one of the biggest names in the sport in the last 20 years. I guess he's yesterdays news to most kids. I also don't agree that Brands coached wrestlers are somehow tainted. Doug Schwab has done ok with a program that has never/will never be a powerhouse. Tony Ramos has been an important part of the successes at UNC or so I'm told. Kemerer I don't think we should have let go of, I think he was one of the better guys to never win it. Gilman I've heard does well with developing kids. Cory Clark was someone I'm surprised we haven't seen coaching D1. Cassiopi is at Wisconsin, I guess we'll see how that goes.
Now as far as the Sanderson coaching tree, we've really only seen David Taylor. I think guys like Nolf, Retherford, etc... can and would do well. But half of the world or olympic champs from NLWC didn't even go to PSU. Molinaro is one of the only guys I can think of from Cael who's actively coaching in college. I guess Mark Hall and Vicenzo Joseph are too? Nick Lee never left. I always wondered why we didn't seem more of them. Whatever happened to guys like Ed Ruth, Quentin Wright, Morgan McIntosh, Max Dean etc?
So far the only thing I've heard on here that gets any traction is Burroughs or bust. There's got to be more that only 1 viable option.
Do you not agree that Iowa should steer clear of Spencer or that Lil Spence is cranky?
Ed - Head Coach of Team Croatia
Quentin - High school coach in PA
Morgan McIntosh - Army, currently getting paid through WCAP to wrestle at NLWC
Max Dean - club coach in Michigan
I appreciate the speedy and accurate response. I am still surprised, however, that more of the PSU stars haven't taken spots in prominent programs over the last 15 years.
Calling him lil spence... I dont think he should be the next coach though. he isnt the same as DT or JB in my opinion. To much like BrandsDo you not agree that Iowa should steer clear of Spencer or that Lil Spence is cranky?
Kemmerer is the only brands coached athlete I would want coaching here. His coaching ability surpasses his wrestling ability which was very high when healthy. He gets it. Minnesota is seeing the benefits of him being on staff.
That said, Nolf is my number one pick. He has the attributes of Kemmerer plus a little better results. Is currently running a seemingly successful club. He can relate to young recruits and seems to have a good pulse on them and make connections. He can speak intelligently and is clear in his communication.
I would also be pleased with Burroughs, especially with his connections to donors and businesses.
Whomever it is needs to be creative. Any Iranians want to wrestle and or coach at HWC?
That said, Nolf is my number one pick. He has the attributes of Kemmerer plus a little better results. Is currently running a seemingly successful club. He can relate to young recruits and seems to have a good pulse on them and make connections. He can speak intelligently and is clear in his communication.
I would also be pleased with Burroughs, especially with his connections to donors and businesses.
Whomever it is needs to be creative. Any Iranians want to wrestle and or coach at HWC?
No he's not. But right now, I don't want to F with Spencer's chi. I want him to win a world and Olympic title and not worry about all the other stuff.
Iowa has a significant advantage in reputation. They are considered a blue blood. Everyone is talking about them, good or bad which gives them significant name recognition. If anyone gets to the point where they are even considered by Iowa that is a dream come true. You think that is the same for ISU? When every other show on FRL, or every other clip they see is about the Hawkeyes that helps build their brand and name recognition. That plus their storied history of winning, makes the program a top sell. I think that is, and would have been, the case if they replaced Zalesky with anyone.
Also, have you seen the new facility? Pretty nice. There are a ton of resources that are better at Iowa than 99% of programs.
- Brand recognition/media
- Historical results and significance
- Financial resources and support
- Fan base
This post said it better than me. Your selling your program short thinking the only advantage you have is money. It’s night and day when trying to recruit to a school like ISU vs Iowa
Post in thread 'Coaching Staff Next Year'
https://www.on3.com/boards/threads/coaching-staff-next-year.8723339/post-182565382
David Carr has had more to do with Iowa State gaining some relevance, than any of the coaches have. The Carr family has deep roots at Iowa State. Nate being hired as CWC and his son coming to IA State was probably dictated by the Carr family and their interactions with donors and administrators. Nate came back because of his desire to see his alma mater succeed. He knew his son would go a long way in accomplishing this.
Metcalf is probably looking for head coaching jobs now, because after the next Olympic cycle, David Carr could be the next head coach at ISU.
Cyclone finishes without David Carr
2021 Tie for 26th 1 AA. UNI finished 19TH
2022 25TH 2 AA UNI finished 20TH
2023 16TH 1 AA UNI finished in 16TH
2024 14TH 3 AA UNI finished in 15TH
Carr was finished.
2025 27TH 1AA UNI finished 9TH
No, I don’t think the answer is anyone from the ISU staff. Too bad we couldn’t have found a spot for Lee Roper. His wife worked at the NWHF Dan Gable Museum, discussions could have been set up with TNT, and maybe they were?
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