Lino Mark
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You make it sound like Knights presence has little impact on the vision of the offense.
Which is the opposite of other posts where if Knight leaves for Pitt we have no vision or offensive plan to pitch to transfers.
So which is it - does Knight being on staff matter or not for recruiting transfers?
Magoo you really are blind if you think Francis would be a bench player on most teams!!! Pretty sure he is the second leading scorer in the B1G
Something I noticed in the Penn State game is Lino’s off the ball defense.
he really clogged up the middle of the lane when the ball was on one side and his man was on the other side of the court.
His quick reaction and recovering speed was really good. Now if he can still do this when guarding a better shooter will be interesting to watch for.
he really clogged up the middle of the lane when the ball was on one side and his man was on the other side of the court.
His quick reaction and recovering speed was really good. Now if he can still do this when guarding a better shooter will be interesting to watch for.
I’ll eat some crow re: my comments on mark
I had said that his potential was much lower than powers. Now I think it’s debatable .
frankly in the last few games he has shown MORE than powers. That’s unquestionable
His ability to get to the rim is indeed impressive and his d is good.
Now having a point guard who doesn’t really distribute that well and his shooting is very questionable …. There are still big question marks about his ceiling . If he doesn’t develop the ability to facilitate the offense and shoot then maybe he’s close to his ceiling already? I don’t know.
But with powers - I just get the sense that he’s just scratching the surface and that he will DEVELOP into a very solid big 10 guard. But his development will take longer. He just strikes me as a guy who becomes really good as an upperclassman as his game matures.
if given the choice who to retain… tough call.
a few weeks ago I thought it was clearly powers. Now - not so sure.
I had said that his potential was much lower than powers. Now I think it’s debatable .
frankly in the last few games he has shown MORE than powers. That’s unquestionable
His ability to get to the rim is indeed impressive and his d is good.
Now having a point guard who doesn’t really distribute that well and his shooting is very questionable …. There are still big question marks about his ceiling . If he doesn’t develop the ability to facilitate the offense and shoot then maybe he’s close to his ceiling already? I don’t know.
But with powers - I just get the sense that he’s just scratching the surface and that he will DEVELOP into a very solid big 10 guard. But his development will take longer. He just strikes me as a guy who becomes really good as an upperclassman as his game matures.
if given the choice who to retain… tough call.
a few weeks ago I thought it was clearly powers. Now - not so sure.
What have you not watched about Mark’s shooting saying it is questionable ? He is finishing almost everything at the rim whereas he drove earlier in the year and hardly ever converted. He started 0-17 from 3. But since the USC game about 8-10 games ago he is shooting 50% from 3 although in a small sample size at 8/16. So his shooting has improved a lot. Regarding his passing it will get better as he was the only one to give Ogbole an alley oop yesterday. As more attention is paid to him or when defenses try to send 2 guys to stop his blur fast breaks he will dish to the wings for 3’s. Overall , we have a point guard and have to keep him.
Regarding Powers he is also needs to be retained for a lot of the reasons you state. It shouldn’t be one or the other . We need both back.
You can always throw 10 million at only five players and play zone.
Most teams, maybe not, but he would come off the bench for 5 or 6 of them easily, as they wouldn't need his scoring. I mean let's not forget he spent much of the season coming off the bench for us, and we're one of the worst teams in the league.
Some interesting comments under this post.
Big IF but if we keep both of them and get it done early, Pike will at least be positioned well for once to shop for the type of players he likes.
When you say decent I’m thinking the big Croatian guy on PSU. He averaged 10/5. I assume he’ll get around $2 mil.
You're asking the wrong guy lol. I don't do ANY of those social media platforms other than FB and even that I have limited use.
1st 13 gm,
11.3min, 10-44 22.8%, 3pt 0-11 0%, FT 14-16, 2.6pts, 1.5 reb, 0.5ast
Last 17 gm, All B1G games
18.3min, 46-95 48.4%, 3pt 8-24 33%, FT 29-38, 7.6pts, 1.7 reb, 1.5ast
Last 10 B1G games 54.4/44.4/71.4
9gm(missed vs NEB), 19.8min, 10.8pts, 1.9reb, 1.8ast
8gm(-1 min vs MD), 22.9min 12.1pt, 2.1reb, 2.0ast
3pt 6-10 60%, last 5 gm.
He really came on the end of the season. What was a weakness, the backcourt, in the beginning of the year has become a strength w/ Francis, Mark, Powers, Davis and Zrno.
11.3min, 10-44 22.8%, 3pt 0-11 0%, FT 14-16, 2.6pts, 1.5 reb, 0.5ast
Last 17 gm, All B1G games
18.3min, 46-95 48.4%, 3pt 8-24 33%, FT 29-38, 7.6pts, 1.7 reb, 1.5ast
Last 10 B1G games 54.4/44.4/71.4
9gm(missed vs NEB), 19.8min, 10.8pts, 1.9reb, 1.8ast
8gm(-1 min vs MD), 22.9min 12.1pt, 2.1reb, 2.0ast
3pt 6-10 60%, last 5 gm.
He really came on the end of the season. What was a weakness, the backcourt, in the beginning of the year has become a strength w/ Francis, Mark, Powers, Davis and Zrno.
We need a center who avg 10 points per game. They are out there. I don’t care if it costs $3 million. It’s the most important thing. No more getting tall muscular guys who score 3 pts and pray that somehow Pike and his magic lamp will suddenly turn those kids into offense powers with post moves, positioning and FT shooting. Every other Big Man in the B1G can shoot 3s and FTs now except us, we live in 2003 offense
More importantly we need a center that can defend, block shots and rebound
Tonight really may be something that affects Lino stock. He’s showing some good stuff lately but today it was clear that he’s not a knockdown three-point shooter, which is somewhat needed for a smaller guard. Hope he stays next year and is that off the bench spark plug
He's terrible against zone defenses. Can't shoot. Ineffective against condensed traffic in the paint. Not a drive and kick guy.
Agree with you. Basketball is always situational and about matchups. Credit Pike for not using him as much in this game, especially since we didn’t press much.
I think I was at the last real good one: Ron, Geo, Caleb I still have the T-shirt.
I can't understand why we didn't press the whole game.
Mark is 2 years away from maybe being a backup! Struggle placate rim. cannot shoot. Undersized!
He looked better out on the brake against man to man. He could turn into a contributor but next year we shouldn’t be relying on him.
He looked better out on the brake against man to man. He could turn into a contributor but next year we shouldn’t be relying on him.
Only thing I could think of is Nwuli was out and Dortch limited. Add in Buchanan had three first half fouls. I still would have pressed.
Fortunately - this opinion is coming from someone who thinks Tariq would be a 7 or 8 man at best on any other high major roster so your probably wrong about this too.
You obviously have not been watching . Everything you said isn’t factual even if yesterday he didn’t play well or shoot well. Just ignore his last 6 games before that then you are fine. Other people actually look at what a player actually does on the court . He broke down man and he broke down zone played by other teams but you want to ignore , that is fine. He has more upside than any of the other freshman and I think Powers has big upside also. Just ignore
Also a fact! Tariq is a good player whose best position is coming off the bench. He doesn’t play much more then 10-12 mins a game on a top tier team
Hell Pike did it for 3/4 of the season.
You support Pike so I guess worth both wrong.
You can have your opinion! I watch or attend every game. Mark had 5-6 serviceable game all year.
He is to small, he can not shoot, and struggles against the zone.
Good thing your not the GM
Your kidding, right? Come on man. He looked tired having played 2 back to back games. Went 0-5 from 3. Last game against UCLA he was 2 for 3 from deep and 4 of 8 overall from the field. Nobody dominates game in and out.
This was Tariq’s first single digit game since 1/8. Before that, 12/13. He’s been incredibly consistent scoring the ball at the high major level. Full stop. Ace Bailey, for perspective, had twice as many single digit outputs during the same span.
It was more of a strategy
Francis was clearly not a bench player because he was our best scorer
Maybe Pike thought he could keep the others teams and coaches attention away from him a bit this way
Or take some of the pressure off him
As long as he got the major minutes it didn't matter
Tariq has the most one year potential on the roster. Anyone who doesn’t see this is blind. He showed steady improvement at almost every facet of the game over the course of the season and he did what he did without a great facilitator and virtually zero front court scoring threat to compliment his game.
Yet we have folks pointing to one off game coming off a 29 point performance claiming it proves Tariq should be a bench warmer on a decent team. Mind boggling to me.