A win over Syracuse does not move any needles. They will remain the next to last team in the field
BACATOLOGY 3/9 NCAA TOURNEY OUTLOOK
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A win over Syracuse does not move any needles. They will remain the next to last team in the field
Hofstra Flying Dutchmen back in the NCAA Tournament after a hard fought win over Monmouth in the Colonial final
Regular season champ Wright State rallies past Detroit Mercy to win the Horizon championship
Regular season champ Wright State rallies past Detroit Mercy to win the Horizon championship
Long Island beats Mercyhurst in the Northeast final in a game that didnt matter due to Mercyhurst's ineligibility
Wake wins 95-89. Virginia Tech now out of my bracket. Hokies are now a pathetic 2-10 in Q1. They certainly will be under consideration but they and Stanford are going to need all the schools below them to lose which considering what happened last weekend isnt all that far fetched is it?
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I still call St Johns the Redmen
Do you call Rutgers WBB the Lady Knights?
LAST 4 IN: INDIANA, SMU, VCU, TEXAS
FIRST 4 OUT: CALIFORNIA, AUBURN, VIRGINIA TECH, STANFORD
NEXT 4 OUT: CINCINNATI, OKLAHOMA STATE, NEW MEXICO, WEST VIRGINIA
ON DECK: OKLAHOMA, SETON HALL, SAN DIEGO STATE, BOISE STATE, USC
FIRST 4 OUT: CALIFORNIA, AUBURN, VIRGINIA TECH, STANFORD
NEXT 4 OUT: CINCINNATI, OKLAHOMA STATE, NEW MEXICO, WEST VIRGINIA
ON DECK: OKLAHOMA, SETON HALL, SAN DIEGO STATE, BOISE STATE, USC
Maryland and NW win in big 10 opening round.
Are Altman and Rhoades in trouble of being terminated ?
Onto MAAC finals to watch Gerry Mc Namara coach Siena.
Are Altman and Rhoades in trouble of being terminated ?
Onto MAAC finals to watch Gerry Mc Namara coach Siena.
Very possible. He’s quite feisty as a HC. Was an assistant at Cuse for some time before taking Siena job.
No but he is a coaching wizard hired to help Gerry. Brian Beaury enters his second season as the Special Assistant to Head Coach Gerry McNamara. Hired in July 2024, Beaury led nearby Division II The College of Saint Rose to 654 wins spanning a decorated 33-year head coaching career.
Poor Merrimack had a fine season and won the regular season MAAC but fall to Siena in the MAAC tourney final. Saints probably a 16 seed.
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I think its just because how dominant the top 3 schools have been and that Michigan beat them by 40 or so. They are 7-2 vs field and did beat Alabama, UCLA, Kentucky, St Marys and Santa Clara 3x
Definitely have a shot at that 3 seed now. Santa Clara probably an 11 but it could be in Dayton or not
Both WAB and SOR would have Auburn in the field where they are 44/45. Indiana at 46 in SOR is last team in while SMU at 47 in SOR is last team in.
WAB BUBBLE RANKINGS
Above the fray
37. Texas A&M
38. Central Florida
39. Iowa
40. Missouri
41. Saint Louis
42. VCU
Last 4 in
43. North Carolina State
44. Texas
45. Auburn
46. SMU
OUT
47. Indiana
48. Oklahoma State
49. California
50. New Mexico
51. Mc Neese State
52. Boise State
53. Virginia Tech
54. USC
55. San Diego State
56. Arizona State
The losses yesterday were pretty devastating for both Virginia Tech and Stanford. The Hokies SOR/WAB slipped to 58/53. At just 2-10 in Q1 and now sub 500 in Q1/2/3 and just 2-9 vs field. For the Cardinal the numbers cratered to 65/58. Now 4-4 in Quad 4 alone and while they are 5-4 vs the field, they now have EIGHT losses to schools not in the field.
With weird NET at 72, Oklahoma State not being talked about by many bracketologists has surged to 49/48 in SOR/WAB which is just outside the cut line. Their win over Colorado at least puts them right there if they can pick off one or two more Big 12 wins 5-8 vs the field and a clean sheet no losses outside Q2 and now up to 12-13 Q1/2/3. Cincinnati at 4-9 vs the field and two big wins over Kansas and Iowa State yet the SOR/WAB lags at 60. Arizona State still barely alive but have improved the SOR/WAB to 59/56 but will likely need 2 more wins.
Mc Neese is creeping up now surprisingly SOR/WAB of 48/51 and meet SF Austin in Southland tourney final. Zero Q1 wins, 1-2 in Q2 with best win of year neutral site George Washington and 9-4 in Q1/2/3 with a Q4 loss to Incarnate Word. With a loss the numbers will go down not much but a bit. I do not see how a profile like this would get an at large but we shall see what the numbers look like tomorrow. Their opponent and regular season champ SF Austin at 56/64 has no shot for an at large
Santa Clara should be alright . Would be a major shocker if they got snubbed. SOR/WAB 41/36. Its just a question of whether they are out of Dayton.
SMU was the only school projected in the field that won and it keeps them in the same position right on the cut line.
WAB BUBBLE RANKINGS
Above the fray
37. Texas A&M
38. Central Florida
39. Iowa
40. Missouri
41. Saint Louis
42. VCU
Last 4 in
43. North Carolina State
44. Texas
45. Auburn
46. SMU
OUT
47. Indiana
48. Oklahoma State
49. California
50. New Mexico
51. Mc Neese State
52. Boise State
53. Virginia Tech
54. USC
55. San Diego State
56. Arizona State
The losses yesterday were pretty devastating for both Virginia Tech and Stanford. The Hokies SOR/WAB slipped to 58/53. At just 2-10 in Q1 and now sub 500 in Q1/2/3 and just 2-9 vs field. For the Cardinal the numbers cratered to 65/58. Now 4-4 in Quad 4 alone and while they are 5-4 vs the field, they now have EIGHT losses to schools not in the field.
With weird NET at 72, Oklahoma State not being talked about by many bracketologists has surged to 49/48 in SOR/WAB which is just outside the cut line. Their win over Colorado at least puts them right there if they can pick off one or two more Big 12 wins 5-8 vs the field and a clean sheet no losses outside Q2 and now up to 12-13 Q1/2/3. Cincinnati at 4-9 vs the field and two big wins over Kansas and Iowa State yet the SOR/WAB lags at 60. Arizona State still barely alive but have improved the SOR/WAB to 59/56 but will likely need 2 more wins.
Mc Neese is creeping up now surprisingly SOR/WAB of 48/51 and meet SF Austin in Southland tourney final. Zero Q1 wins, 1-2 in Q2 with best win of year neutral site George Washington and 9-4 in Q1/2/3 with a Q4 loss to Incarnate Word. With a loss the numbers will go down not much but a bit. I do not see how a profile like this would get an at large but we shall see what the numbers look like tomorrow. Their opponent and regular season champ SF Austin at 56/64 has no shot for an at large
Santa Clara should be alright . Would be a major shocker if they got snubbed. SOR/WAB 41/36. Its just a question of whether they are out of Dayton.
SMU was the only school projected in the field that won and it keeps them in the same position right on the cut line.
Update after doing a quick scrub on the bubble teams
LAST 4 IN: INDIANA, SMU, VCU, TEXAS
FIRST 4 OUT: CALIFORNIA, AUBURN, OKLAHOMA STATE, NEW MEXICO
NEXT 4 OUT: VIRGINIA TECH, CINCINNATI, OKLAHOMA, STANFORD
ON DECK: WEST VIRGINIA, SETON HALL, SAN DIEGO STATE, BOISE STATE, ARIZONA STATE, USC
LAST 4 IN: INDIANA, SMU, VCU, TEXAS
FIRST 4 OUT: CALIFORNIA, AUBURN, OKLAHOMA STATE, NEW MEXICO
NEXT 4 OUT: VIRGINIA TECH, CINCINNATI, OKLAHOMA, STANFORD
ON DECK: WEST VIRGINIA, SETON HALL, SAN DIEGO STATE, BOISE STATE, ARIZONA STATE, USC
so things really get rollin today....
Iowa/Maryland: I would say Iowa is a lock and has been a lock for awhile. Their Q2 loss at Penn State has slipped into Q3 to join their Q3 road loss at Maryland...but both those barely in Q3 literally by 1 and 2 spots each. Another loss to the Terps would just be a neutral site Q3 loss but then bump their early away Q3 loss back to a 2. Honestly I think its just noise at this point but you never want to take an early conference tourney loss to a bottom feeder. The SOR/WAB at 38/39 seems to be above the fray enough given the bubble this year is a train wreck of epic proportions.
NC State/Pitt: Pack are dangerously close to the Dayton games but got a big break with the 2 ACC bubbles losing yesterday. On the other hand the Stanford loss to Pitt means the Pack are in danger of taking on a bad loss a borderline Q2/3 to Pitt. It just seems with that even though the Pack do not have many impressive wins and there is that Q4 loss to Ga Tech, that 11-11 Q1/2 and 15-11 Q1/2/3 is superior to the rest of the schools around them
Arizona State/Iowa State: Sun Devils couldnt get the win at Iowa State over the weekend so here is another try and they will need this one plus the next one over Texas Tech to get them within serious range
SMU/Louisville: Mustangs will lock in with a win over Louisville. They are right on the cut line at 47/46 in SOR/WAB so a loss here keeps them vulnerable with bid stealers and any bubble school making a run
USC/Washington: Trojans last stand and only here because some of the metrics have held up even with the 7 game losing streak.
Auburn/Mississippi State: Must win for Tigers to even stay in contention as a loss would send them to a .500 record. SOR/WAB at 44/45 are willing if they win this plus at least one more if not 2.
Cincinnati/UCF: UCF has lost 4 in a row and they now have 6 losses to non schools in the field. However 5-4 vs field and SOR/WAB at 39/38 still shows some cushion so a loss here would not knock them out of the field but it could put Dayton in play. For Cincy they really need this one plus an additional win over Arizona to make a serious case.
Mc Neese/Stephen F Austin: Mc Neese pushed to late night OT to reach Southland tourney final, might be a bit leg weary for this 5PM final. While those SOR/WAB marks of 48/51 are intriguing it will be tough to make a serious case for them as an at large with 0 Q1 wins, 1 Q2 win and a Q4 loss to Incarnate Word
Indiana/Northwestern: Hooisers have vaulted into the field but its a perilious position and they really need this one to help their sagging 6-13 Q1/2 and 11-13 Q1/2/3. A loss would not necessarily eliminate them given how bad the bubble has shown up but it would knock them out of my field for now. Will likely need to also beat Purdue in the next round to feel any safety in the field.
Texas/Ole Miss: Much like last year, the issue with the Longhorns is the bulky loss total. Might be rueing playing Chaminade where that win in Hawaii does not count on their team sheet. 10-13 in Q1/2/3 is pretty rough. With a loss today, getting a bid at 10-14 Q1/2/3 would be unprecidented. 6-10 vs field so this one win might be enough but a win over Georgia in the next round would definitely do it.
Boston U/Lehigh in a battle for the Patriot League tourney championship
West Virginia/BYU: WVU still on the fringes will need this one and then Houston and that might not be enough, maybe have to reach Big 12 finals
California/Florida State: With the 2 ACC bubbles bursting yesterday, Bears have moved to first team out. SOR/WAB short of the field but in range at 52/49. 4-4 vs field and troublesome 6 losses to schools not in field. Will absolutely need to beat Florida State with suddenly vulnerable Duke up next as the main prize to vault them in.
Oklahoma/South Carolina: Sooners absolutely must win this one and the next one vs Tex A&M but probably also need to beat Alabama in the quarters. 10-14 in Q1/2/3 is rough. 4-11 vs field. SOR/WAB of 50/57
Oklahoma State/TCU: Cowboys have moved very close despite their awful NET of 72 and very little talk among bracketologists. SOR/WAB just missing the cut line at 49/48. Only 2-9 in Q1 but 10-13 in Q1/2 and up to 12-13 in Q1/2/3. No bad losses. 5-8 vs field but biggest win is just Texas and the rest lower end. Getting this one puts them right smack on last team out or possibly in. They will need the next one vs Kansas...could that be enough?
Boise State/San Jose State: A loss here takes them off the board. I will say while the SOR at 72 that WAB now up to 52 is intriguing. Ultimately that D2 loss to Hawaii Pacific will keep them from getting an at large. 16-10 in Q1/2/3..if they had just scheduled a couple of Q3 Big Sky schools instead of playing out in Maui going 1-2 they might be right at the cusp.
Idaho/Montana: battle for the Big Sky tourney championship late night action 11:30 on the Deuce.
Iowa/Maryland: I would say Iowa is a lock and has been a lock for awhile. Their Q2 loss at Penn State has slipped into Q3 to join their Q3 road loss at Maryland...but both those barely in Q3 literally by 1 and 2 spots each. Another loss to the Terps would just be a neutral site Q3 loss but then bump their early away Q3 loss back to a 2. Honestly I think its just noise at this point but you never want to take an early conference tourney loss to a bottom feeder. The SOR/WAB at 38/39 seems to be above the fray enough given the bubble this year is a train wreck of epic proportions.
NC State/Pitt: Pack are dangerously close to the Dayton games but got a big break with the 2 ACC bubbles losing yesterday. On the other hand the Stanford loss to Pitt means the Pack are in danger of taking on a bad loss a borderline Q2/3 to Pitt. It just seems with that even though the Pack do not have many impressive wins and there is that Q4 loss to Ga Tech, that 11-11 Q1/2 and 15-11 Q1/2/3 is superior to the rest of the schools around them
Arizona State/Iowa State: Sun Devils couldnt get the win at Iowa State over the weekend so here is another try and they will need this one plus the next one over Texas Tech to get them within serious range
SMU/Louisville: Mustangs will lock in with a win over Louisville. They are right on the cut line at 47/46 in SOR/WAB so a loss here keeps them vulnerable with bid stealers and any bubble school making a run
USC/Washington: Trojans last stand and only here because some of the metrics have held up even with the 7 game losing streak.
Auburn/Mississippi State: Must win for Tigers to even stay in contention as a loss would send them to a .500 record. SOR/WAB at 44/45 are willing if they win this plus at least one more if not 2.
Cincinnati/UCF: UCF has lost 4 in a row and they now have 6 losses to non schools in the field. However 5-4 vs field and SOR/WAB at 39/38 still shows some cushion so a loss here would not knock them out of the field but it could put Dayton in play. For Cincy they really need this one plus an additional win over Arizona to make a serious case.
Mc Neese/Stephen F Austin: Mc Neese pushed to late night OT to reach Southland tourney final, might be a bit leg weary for this 5PM final. While those SOR/WAB marks of 48/51 are intriguing it will be tough to make a serious case for them as an at large with 0 Q1 wins, 1 Q2 win and a Q4 loss to Incarnate Word
Indiana/Northwestern: Hooisers have vaulted into the field but its a perilious position and they really need this one to help their sagging 6-13 Q1/2 and 11-13 Q1/2/3. A loss would not necessarily eliminate them given how bad the bubble has shown up but it would knock them out of my field for now. Will likely need to also beat Purdue in the next round to feel any safety in the field.
Texas/Ole Miss: Much like last year, the issue with the Longhorns is the bulky loss total. Might be rueing playing Chaminade where that win in Hawaii does not count on their team sheet. 10-13 in Q1/2/3 is pretty rough. With a loss today, getting a bid at 10-14 Q1/2/3 would be unprecidented. 6-10 vs field so this one win might be enough but a win over Georgia in the next round would definitely do it.
Boston U/Lehigh in a battle for the Patriot League tourney championship
West Virginia/BYU: WVU still on the fringes will need this one and then Houston and that might not be enough, maybe have to reach Big 12 finals
California/Florida State: With the 2 ACC bubbles bursting yesterday, Bears have moved to first team out. SOR/WAB short of the field but in range at 52/49. 4-4 vs field and troublesome 6 losses to schools not in field. Will absolutely need to beat Florida State with suddenly vulnerable Duke up next as the main prize to vault them in.
Oklahoma/South Carolina: Sooners absolutely must win this one and the next one vs Tex A&M but probably also need to beat Alabama in the quarters. 10-14 in Q1/2/3 is rough. 4-11 vs field. SOR/WAB of 50/57
Oklahoma State/TCU: Cowboys have moved very close despite their awful NET of 72 and very little talk among bracketologists. SOR/WAB just missing the cut line at 49/48. Only 2-9 in Q1 but 10-13 in Q1/2 and up to 12-13 in Q1/2/3. No bad losses. 5-8 vs field but biggest win is just Texas and the rest lower end. Getting this one puts them right smack on last team out or possibly in. They will need the next one vs Kansas...could that be enough?
Boise State/San Jose State: A loss here takes them off the board. I will say while the SOR at 72 that WAB now up to 52 is intriguing. Ultimately that D2 loss to Hawaii Pacific will keep them from getting an at large. 16-10 in Q1/2/3..if they had just scheduled a couple of Q3 Big Sky schools instead of playing out in Maui going 1-2 they might be right at the cusp.
Idaho/Montana: battle for the Big Sky tourney championship late night action 11:30 on the Deuce.
@ BAC - in your opinion, is there a chance Rutgers could be playing tonight’s game for a potential Crown tourney bid? Based on last year’s field - it appears we might be sitting squarely at the cut line (of course it depends which teams decline). DePaul got a bid with 14 wins while Providence did not get an offer at 12 wins (they declined an NIT bid). NET didn’t appear to end up being a factor as Tulane got in with NET 145.
While we might get an NIT bid even with a loss, I don’t see Pike signing up for a road game at a mid-major so I’d think we would decline that. Depending on the retention outlook for next year though, these tournaments could theoretically provide valuable experience. Crown obviously more desirable as top 4 or so teams win money. Thoughts?
While we might get an NIT bid even with a loss, I don’t see Pike signing up for a road game at a mid-major so I’d think we would decline that. Depending on the retention outlook for next year though, these tournaments could theoretically provide valuable experience. Crown obviously more desirable as top 4 or so teams win money. Thoughts?
Not happening
I just think its awful and pathetic for any sub 500 schools to go to post season. As for the Crown this year, there are only 8 schools invited thank god.
Crown takes top 2 NET from big 10, big east, and Big 12 and then 2 at larges
Indiana, Washington, Northwestern, Minnesota, USC are the top Big 10 schools
If lsu wins, Lexington will look like where the ayatollah was…I hope
Florida is ready to fend off the money whipping that will take place by UK
Florida is ready to fend off the money whipping that will take place by UK
yikes Iowa State up 45-16 over Arizona State in Bobby Hurley's swan song
Iowa with double digit lead on Maryland midway through 2nd half
NC State now up 10 on Pitt after the first timeout in 2nd half.
Iowa with double digit lead on Maryland midway through 2nd half
NC State now up 10 on Pitt after the first timeout in 2nd half.
@bac2therac great job with the breakdown of today's games. I love this stuff!
Ditto!! Great stuff!! Most fun sports time of year on sheer volume alone. BU beating Navy highlight was amazing.
My minor criticism is beating the drum for Auburn. Meh. I don’t care about the WAB or SOS when the Auburn’s of the world get opportunities that the mid majors do not receive.
I’d rather see teams rewarded, Tulsa, Navy, Akron, Santa Clara. Etc. 24/25 wins is a significant accomplishment.