Would Next Season Be A Success If
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You always hope for championships. But yeah that would be marked improvement that you hope is a sign of upward trajectory.
For me he has to be a clear top 10 team! Along with that he needs to answer/fix some of the problems that showed up the past 2 years!
Ball is in his court. All coaches have to be able to identify and make changes to fix issues and improve the product when it's not bringing results!
Ball is in his court. All coaches have to be able to identify and make changes to fix issues and improve the product when it's not bringing results!
A team with Stokes as the main guy and Pate as the second best will not be top 10.
If they are surrounded by three more top players why couldn’t that be one of the best five in America? Of course would need a bench also.
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Pope isn't gonna make the elite 8.
And 24 games? We aren't making an elite 8 with 24 total wins.
And 24 games? We aren't making an elite 8 with 24 total wins.
didnt florida win it all last season and they only won like 22 reg season games
I just don't think those two are as good as some on here say. Stokes is not on the level of Boozer or Dybantsa and does not have their maturity. Pate is more a 4th or 5h best player on a contender at best. I don't like his slow unorthodox jumper at all. Priority number one is to get a talented alpha PG. If you did that and got a great scoring 2g with Stokes/Williams/Moreno then I could get optimistic.
Fair. I’m riding with Stokes tho until he commits to Kansas. Then I’ll come back to agree with you lol
Thought u meant total for the season.
And Florida won 27 last year n the regular season and 36 total.
Success would be Pope not coaching next season. There’s nothing this man does good. I guess he loving his epic journey while getting rich.
Yeah he has all the leverage. i actually like him and Williams together. Neither is a true 3 but could complement each other well. Both could guard 4s with the right effort.
Play Williams at the two for all I care. I like a long team. Get a killer pg
Don’t overthink it. Pope isn’t suddenly going to turn into a successful coach at this point in his career. We know who he is.
Don’t lower your standards either.
I ask again: What is the downside of hiring Golden after this season?
Don’t lower your standards either.
I ask again: What is the downside of hiring Golden after this season?
We need a pass first, defensive stopper PG in the mold of Butler. No idea who that is but identify him and sign him. I’m off the Stokes train. He’s the most talented player in the class by a good margin, but he’s gonna load manage himself. Can’t win consistently with that. Ask Kansas. Sign Pate if he’s gonna be a 4th or so option. Bring back Williams, Chandler, Moreno. Maybe Mo. Sign 3 highly skilled portal guys who fit a spread offense and a defense first big like Cyril Somto. See what you have with Hawthorne.
Would it make a difference if UK won the 24 games and went to the Elite 8 without Stokes? What if the roster was a bunch of good college players nobody but hard-core basketball fans really even knew? Would it be more palatable if Pope landed the #1 ranked high school player – or 2-3 OAD kids annually - even if the results were exactly the same? And what if the results were not quite as good with Stokes/OADs but UK could keep turning those players over every year?
Personally, I don’t think there’s a wrong answer to this by the way. It’s a matter of what you enjoy. Lot of excitement can come from anticipation and having media talk incessantly about freshmen projected draft picks, diaper dandies, etc. I definitely like the anticipation and dreaming on new players – whether freshman or top portal players – but in the end I like winning and being considered one of the teams that can win it all most of all.
"Would it make a difference if UK won the 24 games and went to the Elite 8 without Stokes?"
Well popes created the portal dream team two years in a row and it hasnt worked, So him going with Stokes AND making a elite 8 means hes willing to adapt and move forward
Well, you might call this year's portal class a "dream team," but I was never ecstatic about it. UK missed on most of the guys I wanted (although some of them might not have panned out as well as I believed they would) and I didn't like the fit. Also, and this isn't Pope's fault, but UK probably needed more returning high level players.
But I thought Pope's freshman class was good - and would have really been good if he hadn't lost Lewis. You can build title chasers stacking and retaining those kind of freshman classes as part of the roster.
ur last paragraph is why im worried abt next season, if we did retain some talented freshman we could be dangerous down the line, but buying one and dones from the portal with 1 year of eligibility handcuffs your ceiling, unless your dusty may or dan hurley
Top 2 in the SEC and an Elite Eight minimum. I know that is a lot to demand, but it's time.
I don't believe it matters whether it's Dusty May or Dan Hurley. Whatever the most successful method of building a roster happens to be is what any coach should strive for. I don't think building your whole team out of the portal every year is a good idea. 2 or 3 portal guys should probably be the mark usually. But I do think a top portal player (College All-American especially) is much more likely to be able to lead your team to a title than an OAD freshman - and I don't think an OAD freshmen is a necessary component of that kind of team. Regardless, I think the base needs to be developed returning players. So, I think you need freshman to build that base and we currently don't have any, which is not ideal in my mind.
I like Popes chances a lot better at coaching, if he gets a few top players. I believe it's more about his recruiting then it is his coaching. Guess we will find out in time.
I gave you a like because I've kind of thought about that point too. If you can't keep the freshmen they don't have the value you could normally get from the portal and you've wasted a lot of resources scouting, recruiting, etc. But there seems to be something key about that 2nd year in a program that I don't think is coincidence.
He needs to win 27+ games and make an Elite 8 or better for a somewhat successful season.
24 games would be a disaster considering we brought him back while looking the other way with a 6th and 9th place finish in the SEC. But it would probably be enough for Mitch’s lackey to give him another year. Horrifying to think about. He’s being treated like a child where just doing the bare minimum is good enough for this disaster of a basketball program.
Not a success per se, but it would be a step in the right direction and certainly better than what I actually expect to happen.
I might consider it a success if we don't get blown out multiple times, don't make it a habit of getting behind double digits early or giving up big runs that have us fighting from behind for most of the game, show competitive fight and championship spirit every game, and see logical substitution patterns at least after we have a good idea of what we have and who plays well together. AKA correcting clear and obvious red flags that have shown themselves repeatedly throughout the course of this season (and somewhat last season).
I might consider it a success if we don't get blown out multiple times, don't make it a habit of getting behind double digits early or giving up big runs that have us fighting from behind for most of the game, show competitive fight and championship spirit every game, and see logical substitution patterns at least after we have a good idea of what we have and who plays well together. AKA correcting clear and obvious red flags that have shown themselves repeatedly throughout the course of this season (and somewhat last season).
The downside is that if he doesn't make a final four after year 2, the delusionals on this board will want him fired also.
Never understood why anyone that this was a winning group.
MoD, Noah, Garrison, Lowe all 2nd tier or lower and jq over rated especially coming off of a severe injury
How much more do you want to spend?
22 million and finish near the bottom of the conference
I guess I was more hopeful on Lowe than you, although I thought he needed to be more play maker than scorer for UK to work well.