Keenum and other presidents ready to fix this...
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If we don’t get Congress and Trump involved we may can really fix the issues, assuming the SEC Presidents really understand and know what the real issues are.
If Trump wants to get involved and put some legislation around college athletics, NIL, transfer rules, etc. the Democrats are going to ask for and support the complete opposite
If Trump wants to get involved and put some legislation around college athletics, NIL, transfer rules, etc. the Democrats are going to ask for and support the complete opposite
The only way to fix this is for Congress to give the NCAA an anti-trust exemption. Then they can begin making rules around nil without being sued.
They need to get these guys to fix this, so they can tell the judges to take a hike.
I don’t know why a big conglomerate is needed for such. It is a really simple fix- put it back the way it was and don’t allow the athletes to run the show as that is not what they are in college for.
Do I want players to get paid? Sure but dammit do it the old fashioned way and tell the ncaa to **** off. those morons couldn’t & wouldn’t fix the baseball scholarship issue what makes people believe the ncaa is willing to fix this.
Do I want players to get paid? Sure but dammit do it the old fashioned way and tell the ncaa to **** off. those morons couldn’t & wouldn’t fix the baseball scholarship issue what makes people believe the ncaa is willing to fix this.
It's not that simple. Court rulings have favored athletes at just about every stop. That's why this is happening. That is the law until new legislation is introduced to curb it. It's pretty typical legislation by judicial fiat that effs up everything because congress is too lazy to do their jobs.
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Because of that, I think that Keenum & Company’s Guidance is gonna be Bend Over and Submit
got to love bureaucracy at work......hey, let's establish a new system in college athletics that will change the landscape, and destabilize team structure........AND then, a few years in, let's actually just to bring some common sense rules back in AFTER the fact that will moderate a reasonable approach to a change that needed to happen and hopefully reign things back in a bit
No. The only way to fix this is to collectively bargain and call them employees. They aren’t getting an anti trust exemption. And Matt Hayes thinks the sec and big 10
Are ready to break off and possibly do that
I don't understand what that would change. But Sankey is smarter than me.
The sec and Big10 have to still allow transfers and nil. That's law.... I know nil is.
Will they agree to police their own in regards to tampering?
College Presidents as a group even just in the Power 4 Conferences are probably more liberal than the Democrats that you fear will oppose anything that is supported by Trump.
Here’s my other gripe and it pertains to EVERYTHING not just sports. These kids today and some of you adults believe change is good and you want to change everything you touch. After a time period of the change, yall say well… we don’t like it and then have to put it back how you found it. This is what’s happening right now. Why? If it doesn’t have your name on it, leave it alone. Life is life, there’s steps to it & stop trying to take everything at once. that’s not how that works.
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He’s done such a great job with our athletics, let’s set him loose on the rest of them.
Everyone is conservative about what they know best. College presidents supporting something will not offset the instinct to oppose anything that looks aligned with Trump or that might be seen as giving him a "win".
Would probably need to be worked out by a group of senators or representatives from both sides and have a working plan people can coalesce around before Trump is involved.
If the collectively bargain to set rules they can put parameters around all of that. The law is what it is now bc the rules aren’t collectively bargained
And that’s the problem. Anything anyone does to try to get this under control the courts will just overrule
But why would the players collectively bargain. The already have everything they could possibly want through the courts. Hard to collectively bargain when you really have nothing to offer.
Isn't it pretty much too late? It's been out of hand for a few years now, and only getting worse.
The interesting part of this is....if the conferences break off and become their own fiefdoms, the antitrust issues will get resolved to some extent.
Section 2 of the Sherman antitrust act only applies to businesses with a controlling market share. NCAA athletics have been considered a monopsony - a monopolistic employer - because athletes have no viable option to ply their trade.
If the athletes could choose between different conferences with different rules, then there would no longer be a monopsony.
The problem is, how would there be inter-conference play if the conferences have different rules for compensating athletes? And if they collude with each other, that's a whole new problem.
Section 2 of the Sherman antitrust act only applies to businesses with a controlling market share. NCAA athletics have been considered a monopsony - a monopolistic employer - because athletes have no viable option to ply their trade.
If the athletes could choose between different conferences with different rules, then there would no longer be a monopsony.
The problem is, how would there be inter-conference play if the conferences have different rules for compensating athletes? And if they collude with each other, that's a whole new problem.
If they're intent on keeping college education as a key component in college football then I see only one solution.
They should form a new governing body. One that sets these priorities while providing a world-class athletics and academic experience for student-athletes that fosters lifelong well-being:
Coordinate and deliver safe, fair and inclusive competition directly and by SEC members:
- Set rules and guidelines and provide enforcement.
- Create programs that support outstanding performance on and off the field.
- Deliver excellent and inclusive championships.
Provide world-class services to student-athletes and members that leverage the SEC's collective scale:
- Lead research and promote innovation that improves health, safety and performance.
- Provide capabilities and programming that fill in the gaps for members.
- Identify, co-create and distribute best practices to student-athletes and members.
Grow the college sports ecosystem:
- Inspire the next generation of athletes and up-and-coming sports.
- Enable quality access and viewing for all who want it.
- Use data to engage fans with highly personalized experiences and products.
Deliver sustainable funding for the SEC mission:
- Excite fans fandom through compelling entertainment products and services.
- Grow media, sponsorship and ticketing revenue.
- Innovate new revenue streams.
- Set a culture of cost discipline.
Or... we could unwind government funded education from college athletics and call it what it is: Pro Sports.
The Big 10 ain’t doing shít. They are fresh off their 3rd straight national title in football and have their boot firmly on the SEC’s throat, where it is guaranteed to remain for the foreseeable future.
SEC has only itself to blame for its part in ushering in the only thing that could destroy it’s unquestioned dominance and impenetrable geographic advantage in college football…..an environment where it is quite literally ONLY about the money and absolutely nothing else.
I’d prefer they separate it from academics and just have pro teams that are governed/owned by the universities. As part of their contract, provide a guaranteed academic scholarship to be used within 10 years after their 4 to 5 years of D-League College Football. The scholarship could be to any comparable institution. This makes it where a kid with no business going to a school like Vandy is required to do so and will fail out. Of course, also accommodate the athletes who want to be students while playing football the same way we do it now.
It wouldn’t be perfect, but it would probably be better than the direction we are headed.